real milk.....not the processed ones you get in msia......

once you go to fresh milk, you will never like the powdered milk anymore......

actually, in most applications to oz/nz, they do ask which qualification you are using for entry purpose, and if it is not wholly done in english, only then do you need proof on english proficiency......so it is NOT a blanket requirement.....

however, 1119 is NOT recognised by most of their unis.....it is actually marked locally in msia, based on cambridge marking scheme, NOT marked by cambridge itself........

you do not need ielts if you apply with sam to oz unis.......

you will have to check with nz unis concerned.......

oz unis accepts nz ncea.......so i suspect the reverse should also be true.......

actually, i really failed to see the reason for the angst in complying with ielts, other than the exam fee issue, which doesn't make any sense, for people who are contemplating paying full fees in uk/oz/nz........whats rm500 when you are willing to pay rm200k-rm1mil for a degree there..?

as for the 'why'. it's called international benchmarking, a concept quite foreign to many msians.......and that's why they do NOT trust msian certifications, including 1119.........

i don't know about all here who express such reservations about ielts, but i certainly would want to know where i stand in the world, english language wise, and would sit for it, even if the university does not need it........

difference between auckland and dunedin is like kl and kampar......so it depends on what you are used to, and what you like......

as for the ultimate degree given, agree it will make practically no difference in employment prospects........

it cuts both ways.......lots of people who have no money are envious of you for getting a scholarship to study overseas......so you better honour your bond.......

the ncea is the epitome of 'egalitarianess'.......you either 'achieve' or did 'not achieve'.......and if you achieve, you can get into uni.......

that poses a problem for unis, selecting students into demanding courses......many 'achievers' will NOT cope with courses like medicine, laws........and how on earth are they going to select? (the 3 step grading on 'achieve' in ncea helps a bit, but not adequate in stratifying students.......)

so everybody who achieved and applied, will get accepted.......into a generic 1st year.......then the suitable students are selected to continue into the 2nd years of these courses......the rest will be offered other related courses.......

so you can have 1000 aspiring medical students in 1st year health science.....but only 200 or so will continue into 2nd year medicine.......the others go into allied health fields like pharmacy, physiotherapy, optometry, nursing etc........

yes, nz has the strange distinction of accepting student from ncea level 2 directly into non-critical courses in uni.......and for schools offering the cie a-levels, the equivalent is as results........

he's telling you to keep your nzd........

i think he thinks the myr will drop........

the whole country.........

fees are about the same for both countries.......

however, be warned, law 1st year in nz is a generic year, where there are far more students than actual law places........and the end of the 1st year exams is used to select the best students to proceed to 2nd year laws........the rest will go on to do other courses......so there is NO guarantee you can proceed even if you do reasonably well.........in that sense, it is a poor choice for full fees paying international students........

i believe that was an issue some time back, and a lot of home students (especially the pr's) were unhappy with the 'preferential' treatment for international students, with what was perceived 'earier' pathway into 2nd year medicine/dentistry/laws......

the fact is, there is an inter-government arrangement between the msian government (not sure if any other country has this ) and nz unis, for some places to be reserved for the gov scholars (ie jpa and mara) and these places are guaranteed as long as the students achieved the minimum requirement.......

for the rest of the open places, it is a intense competition for home as well as private international students for these places, and the cut off is of course considerable higher than the minimum.......

hence it is quite obvious to onlookers and students alike that some people are getting in with lower results than others........

the other group of students who 'sneaked' in are those who transferred from imu........which is again ONLY msians....(other nationalities in imu cannot match to nz)..........

it's not me who is dissatisfied with the imu twinning students in auckland/otago......it's the home students......specifically those msians who are pr's there who failed to enter year 2, and unfortunately CANNOT transfer to oz and nz due to pms policies.........yes, many of them return to msia after year 1 and enrolled in imu........

which choice is that, and what were your other choices?.........

it looks like very few people actually get their 1st choice.........

any particular reason why you choose nz as your first choices?

jpa directs you which unis you can apply to? so you are assigned nz.......however you have to rank all the med schools, so what were your 3rd and onward choices?.........

i think he means CHC, which is the airport code for Christchurch International..........thai international has a codeshare flight between the two, connecting at SYD or AKL using ANZ........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 14 2009, 08:35 AM

all answers to these questions are in their website.....

or if too lazy, just walk into any education agency (eg unied) and ask.....

wow...this thread is really dead...shows how many people actually going to study in nz....even the oz thread is half dead....cost of studying in oz and nz is prohibitive nowadays...