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post Jul 4 2017, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Jul 4 2017, 08:55 PM)
benefit of working with government
- seniority benefit : the longer you work, the greater you earn
- promotion : frankly speaking, you can forget about it if you are non-muslim, it got nothing to do with racist but the culture is. You still can get promoted but the path will be super super difficult
- anything that related with banking like loans, you will be able to obtain it with the lowest interest rate you can ever imagine
- you don't need to be super hardworking, all you need is to blend in nicely into the circle of people and perform well for the office politic even if you work sucks, people will still back you up
- hardly you will get fired , almost impossible
- in chinese, we call it "eat snake", in malay we call it "curi tulang", these activity are one of the best activity working there

working with private?
- seniority? nah, nobody care, if you are capable, you can kick anyone you like
- promotion? the stronger you are, the faster you get
- banking benefit? no shit given, only those high interest loan awaiting you
- you don't have the privilege to eat snake as you will be busy all the time
- you will get fired easily if you do mistake, employer seeking for efficiency, not stupidity

now you know why so many people raising their hand --> government job?
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above ..... plus pension ....

i know of a teacher, a non .... i think one of the last non teachers .... teach until retired, didnt even get to becum pentadbir level ... now have pension almost 3k every month, her hubby, also a teacher, highest penolong kanan ... even higher pension every month ...

they are one of the last non master teachers with permanent employment with the gov .... nowadays, heard all the non teachers get yearly contracts and no benefits one
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post Jul 4 2017, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(GrowTentProject @ Jul 4 2017, 09:33 PM)
above ..... plus pension ....

i know of a teacher, a non .... i think one of the last non teachers .... teach until retired, didnt even get to becum pentadbir level ... now have pension almost 3k every month, her hubby, also a teacher, highest penolong kanan ... even higher pension every month ...

they are one of the last non master teachers with permanent employment with the gov .... nowadays, heard all the non teachers get yearly contracts and no benefits one
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U heard means it's true? I got many non Malay permanent teachers je. DG41.
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post Jul 4 2017, 09:38 PM

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really?

i think nowadays if you do got jobs in gov sector, you will be offered KONTRAK position first.
after a few years, then if you are lucky, then you might get into TETAP & SAH JAWATAN post.

my friend who is a KONTRAK technician in an IPTA didn't get his contract renewed come this September. he has been working for about 8 years now. pity him. sad.gif

contract staff gov are as the same as working in any private sector. easily gets sacked.
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post Jul 4 2017, 09:40 PM

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post Jul 4 2017, 09:42 PM

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yaaa kontrak usually depends how, my fren contract under project mia got 4k offer for fresh graduate but cannot claim travel here and there. nasib baikk gaji masuk macam gov servant jugak. btw its yearly basis.

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post Jul 4 2017, 09:43 PM

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post Jul 4 2017, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(GrowTentProject @ Jul 4 2017, 09:33 PM)
above ..... plus pension ....

i know of a teacher, a non .... i think one of the last non teachers .... teach until retired, didnt even get to becum pentadbir level ... now have pension almost 3k every month, her hubby, also a teacher, highest penolong kanan ... even higher pension every month ...

they are one of the last non master teachers with permanent employment with the gov .... nowadays, heard all the non teachers get yearly contracts and no benefits one
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government job will always be available, there won't be head count frozen, the motive behind is simple. The worsen the government is, they need more man to vote for them, so who will be their man? it's obvious
statistically, the ratio of government servant servicing the people is too crazy, supposedly with this kind of ratio, our country should be as good as singapore but look what we have today?
quantity don't assured quality, its all about management

we can't blame the gov servant for their laziness because the environment train them this way. If you hardworking, your colleague will hate you, your team will ignore you and eventually abandon you. If you are too capable, you will be the shooting target or even get bully by trashing workload to you without credit given

so do you even dare to showcase your skill? you will end up become like them

This post has been edited by skylee18: Jul 4 2017, 09:44 PM
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post Jul 4 2017, 10:39 PM

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Buy house in Putrajaya can get up to 25% discount. Very attractive offer.

For low rank, they can buy PPA1M which is far away cheaper than PR1MA. The location also much more strategic.
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post Jul 4 2017, 11:05 PM

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The perks of not working outweights the perks of working when one is employed in gomen....all the goodies you secure when you retire n all. And its confirmed too.

Its totally opposite in private, where the more you put in work..the more you might be potentially rewarded , but its not confirmed. Might get nothing extra despite effort given.

No points for guessing correctly which sector nurture lazy humans .

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QUOTE(myasiahobby @ Jul 4 2017, 08:36 PM)
10 am can go for tea, 1 pm lunch, 3 pm afternoon tea, 5 pm balik

Friday afternoon 2.45 only start work
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that is the benefit lol


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post Jul 4 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jul 4 2017, 09:38 PM)
really?

i think nowadays if you do got jobs in gov sector, you will be offered KONTRAK position first.
after a few years, then if you are lucky, then you might get into TETAP & SAH JAWATAN post.

my friend who is a KONTRAK technician in an IPTA didn't get his contract renewed come this September. he has been working for about 8 years now. pity him. sad.gif

contract staff gov are as the same as working in any private sector. easily gets sacked.
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Nowadays very unlikely contract staff will get into permanent. Coz gov departments can no longer do direct intake. All must go thru spa. Means they still need to go interview n compete with the other hundreds n thousands of candidates.
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post Jul 4 2017, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jul 4 2017, 09:38 PM)
really?

i think nowadays if you do got jobs in gov sector, you will be offered KONTRAK position first.
after a few years, then if you are lucky, then you might get into TETAP & SAH JAWATAN post.

my friend who is a KONTRAK technician in an IPTA didn't get his contract renewed come this September. he has been working for about 8 years now. pity him. sad.gif

contract staff gov are as the same as working in any private sector. easily gets sacked.
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no cable = contract

cable = instant permanent
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post Jul 4 2017, 11:57 PM

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post Jul 5 2017, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(TukarShop @ Jul 4 2017, 11:46 PM)
you forget 99% in oil n gas private sector also org kito

they dont work with goverment
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what is your point? orang kito means?
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post Jul 5 2017, 10:43 AM

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you work with gov you can also be businessman

2 income

comfort plus got business

ftw
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post Jul 5 2017, 10:44 AM

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post Jul 5 2017, 10:48 AM

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for me, my dream is to work with gomen bekos i want to pour all my blood sweat & tears to build a BetterNation
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post Jul 5 2017, 10:49 AM

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