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post Jul 20 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 20 2017, 09:07 AM)
Yes, I am.

Will need another 1,320 WTT tokens to host this 1,200W monster.

But, as usual, it is currently out of stock.

GigaWatt will immediately notify me to purchase once the stock is available. smile.gif
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only needs 1200 token
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 20 2017, 09:16 AM)
Don't try to be a smart ass.
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I think they are wrong...

the L3+ is listed at 800W + 10% at wall power = 880

the D3 is listed directly as 1200 wall power

the psu is only rated 1200w for 115V

I can ask them to confirm.

by the way...can you show the url...I cant seem to find the page on gigawatts. thanks.

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post Jul 20 2017, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 20 2017, 09:21 AM)
All wattage rating needs to be loaded with additional 10%.

1200W + 10% = 1320W.

Really a smart ass.  doh.gif
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jul 20 2017, 09:31 AM)
raynman is being kind.

The total wattage needed to host the D3 is clearly stated as 1320W by the GigaWatt support team.
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yes I saw...I've sent them an email to clarify...I will challenge the obvious if it doesn't make sense...

I read the info before too...

The L3+ is listed 800W...+10% for for the wall power = that makes it 880W wall power

For the D3...they straight away list it as 1200W wall power

So...the info is misleading to me...no harm just trashing this around for a bit right? afterall is only saving us money if we don't need 1320 tokens...
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 20 2017, 09:44 AM)
I will pay for the 1200 WTT tokens for you if you can get GigaWatt to host the D3 for only 1200 tokens.

Show documentary proof of this special clearance to use 1200 tokens for only you by GigaWatt.
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Thank you...that is a very generous offer...I will have to decline. A cup of good coffee is enough...
I'll keep y'all posted with my ding dong with GW...

if they insist of 1320...then I guess no choice will have to go along...

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post Jul 20 2017, 10:28 AM

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raynman

I checked the info from Bitmain vs all the machines listed in Gigawatts...

I can see a pattern of how the watts and 10% allowances is listed by GW...

IMHO I believe that if any...they under-listed the L3+...

So 1320 is what we have to pay up consistent with their methods.

Cheers... I stand corrected

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post Jul 20 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 20 2017, 10:32 AM)
Good.

Next time CHECK FIRST before contradicting me and saying that I only need 1200 tokens when I actually need 1320.
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post Jul 20 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jul 20 2017, 11:45 AM)
It doesn't matter how big or small your initial investment is.
The ROI as calculated by one member here is around 7.12 months.
Realistically, I would give it 9 months.
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Yup...

...but the Calc is just a snapshot based on 2 day old data... I won't trust that calculations for future...

I put that up because someone says their return is 0.5-0.55%...so I was curious what is the expected returns

So as a benchmark comparison, I can only say HN performs better than "prediction" for last week...

I won't post anymore data after today... biggrin.gif

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post Jul 20 2017, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jul 20 2017, 06:29 PM)
Dash is on steroids. biggrin.gif
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And I was just thinking of buying some... oh well...

And I just read Apple Store is accepting it... maybe one reason?
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post Jul 20 2017, 07:18 PM

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It appears Hashnest is using L3+ afterall...

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post Jul 20 2017, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(dc_talkz @ Jul 20 2017, 07:31 PM)
Whats the advantage of buying the miner over the mining contracts?
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Pro is better capital utilization, higher net profit.

Con is failures & repairs.

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post Jul 20 2017, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jul 20 2017, 08:18 PM)
For cloud mining purposes, the mining power of 1 MH/s of L3 is exactly the same as 1 MH/s of L3+
The only difference is that physically,  the L3+ is more than double the capacity of the L3.
So it is perfectly OK for HasnNest to mix L3+ with L3 in their AntL3 plan.
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Correct on the mining power. Same power usage rate also.

Only difference is price...unit cost per MHS... if they priced the 2 for the same unit cost then ok to mix. If not then cannot.

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post Jul 20 2017, 08:28 PM

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Found someone just started tracking Hashnest L3+ MHS prices

http://hashl3.afastserver.com/

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post Jul 20 2017, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jul 20 2017, 11:19 PM)
There is no such thing as "separate costing" for the L3 and the L3+.
Their pricing is denominated as "price per MH/s" which HashNest has floated in the cloud mining market.
Supply and demand for AntL3 contracts will determine the price per MH/s.
Whether that 1 MH/s belongs to an L3 or an L3+ is IMMATERIAL because the mining capability per MH/s is the SAME.
So both L3 and L3+ can coexist in one AntL3 plan, and customers do not need to know whether their hashrate is tied to an L3 or an L3+
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There is no L3 that I am aware of in HN...maybe batch 1 but cant find any info.

Suggests you look into S7 & S9...find out why two plans, why can't mix.

Hashnest business model...Let user buys "A" at $B rated at C MHS...Hashnest hosts "A" charge maintenance...user keeps MHS for payout or trade...at the end of life, whoever has enough C MHS can claim "A" back...

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post Jul 21 2017, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jul 21 2017, 04:55 AM)
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It is very simple why the S7 and S9 are separated and have their own AntSx plan.
Their power consumption per TH/s is vastly different.
S7 is rated at 1293W for 4.73 TH/s = 273.36W per TH/s
s9 is rated at 1323W for 13.5 TH/s = 98W per TH/s
The electricity fee to be deducted against their BTC daily payout does not scale the same between S7 and S9.
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L3 and L3+ can mix because the power consumption per MH/s is almost the same.
L3 is rated at 400W for 250 MH/s = 1.6W per MH/s
L3+ is rated at 800W for 504 MH/s = 1.59W per MH/s
From current MHS buyer's perspective, I agree...but from the L3 buyer's perspective...$/MHS is very different when they want to trade them... L3 buyers are screwed either mixed or not... lol... So maybe from this perspective there's really no difference.

Anyways good challenge and discussions from you. Cheers.

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post Jul 21 2017, 10:20 AM

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Any opinions on Nicehash?

Looks a bit troublesome to set up...can't find much info on returns. Thanks.
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post Jul 21 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 21 2017, 10:37 AM)
It is time you did research and DD on this Nicehash.

Please do so and give us your opinion. smile.gif
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Thanks...nicely put. wink.gif

Looks more like a roundabout coin converter...
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post Jul 21 2017, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(dc_talkz @ Jul 21 2017, 12:41 PM)
Yeah, I did some research on Nicehash. Not worth it IMO. Concluded that it's more like a currency converter as well. And a bad 1 too since most of the time you don't get the value for what you're spending.
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post Jul 28 2017, 12:21 PM

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we're suffering a double whammy...

between July 5 and 28...

increasing difficulty has a technical 10% drop in mining output...although looking at Hashnest's blocks found chart doesn't really show it...if any they found more...

decreasing price result in >30% increase in maintenance where they sell LTC to cover...IMHO this hits us the most...

mine is a triple whammy, bought when BTC was high, LTC was high, MHS was high... rclxub.gif
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post Jul 28 2017, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Wysiwygman @ Jul 28 2017, 12:15 PM)
Bought at hashnest AntL3 at 10MH for 2.73 lTC. Is this a good buy?
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