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Penipu scammer.
 
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TSBaconateer
post Jun 26 2017, 01:18 PM, updated 9y ago

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4339812

TS of the link above bought GTX1060 from eXTaTine for RM1060.

TS already transferred the money to exT and exT promised to post the item.

exT u-turned later say someone offer more and ask TS to top up or choose to refund.

what say you?? hmm.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:21 PM

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Yes. Buat poll la senang.
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:22 PM

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walao, yuan lai extatine is penipu scanner?? no wonder always say postage from SG. sked dai me. sad.gif
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extatine

come explain.
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lithium Hirumi @ Jun 26 2017, 01:21 PM)
Yes. Buat poll la senang.
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dah buat...
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:35 PM

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Not scammer ... but very dishonorable seller or time waster ...

Ask for refund better
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just a greedy bastard with no credibility. even though he did not cheat the buyer's money, a done deal is a done deal. he even received the payment for it. how can U-turn like that and demand for more?
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jun 26 2017, 01:18 PM)
eXTaTine <--- Penipu scammer or not?
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the answer is obvious
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:39 PM

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While it seems ok that he reimbursed the money. But it things went south he could just ran away with the money. Top up to buy scam is just a step away from desperate buyers.
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:39 PM

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Lulz extatine
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:50 PM

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post Jun 26 2017, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 01:50 PM)
Mods please remove my personal details from this post
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dei take money adi gotta deal la. adui
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if he is not penipu scammer, he will come and clarify here, but seems like he's not hmmm..
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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Jun 26 2017, 01:56 PM)
if he is not penipu scammer, he will come and clarify here, but seems like he's not hmmm..
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We can discuss that later but right now I need my personal details.offline
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:00 PM

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dia dah refund itu bukan penipu namanya.
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:04 PM

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bukan penipu scammer, but epic asshole.

Idk, should be punished la .. dealing in bad faith.

mother fucker put wrong price, then want to reverse the deal.
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:06 PM

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post Jun 26 2017, 02:14 PM

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Lol ppl agree with your price dy and paid then want to cancel his order just because someone willing to pay extra...
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scam time, effort and hope. like this everyone can put cheap cheap price in sales thread then later on top up.
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:26 PM

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Irony isn't it. Honour the deal la chibai. Don't talk cock about got better offer.
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rule of thumb, use different accounts for /k and business.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jun 26 2017, 01:18 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4339812

TS of the link above bought GTX1060 from eXTaTine for RM1060.

TS already transferred the money to exT and exT promised to post the item.

exT u-turned later say someone offer more and ask TS to top up or choose to refund.

what say you??  hmm.gif
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Definitely scammer
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 01:58 PM)
We can discuss that later but right now I need my personal details.offline
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sue him .... la what to worry
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:32 PM

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the buyer also had to change plans just for the COD.
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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 06:32 PM)
You should see that dispute thread. Putar halim like a fidget spinner.
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where is link?
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:35 PM

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Its not scam but it's very irresponsible.
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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 02:32 PM)
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u think he can afford it ?
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 02:25 PM)
I want to sell my semi-D house for RM100,000. Later on can still jack up price.
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No bero, you missed something very important.

It should be:

I wanna sell my semi D house for RM100,000. But only one unit left. Because of that, it now costs RM250,000.

Take it or leave it.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 26 2017, 02:32 PM)
sue him .... la what to worry
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Ya, kasi LOD.

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 02:39 PM)
No bero, you missed something very important.

It should be:

I wanna sell my semi D house for RM100,000. But only one unit left. Because of that, it now costs RM250,000.

Take it or leave it.
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Well in real life it can happen and the unit will be sold and the original buyer can be salty af but in the end can't do shit lol.
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(GBH @ Jun 26 2017, 02:39 PM)
u should remove your siggy too...if sold
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Oh.forgot it was there. Using mobile site

Done
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:43 PM

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deal is a deal.

how can u-turn ??
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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Jun 26 2017, 02:41 PM)
Well in real life it can happen and the unit will be sold and the original buyer can be salty af but in the end can't do shit lol.
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Bero once you agreed on a deal, you can't be a sei sohai and cincai change the selling price man.

If can simply change price then why even bother to put a price tag?

Price: tengok mood.

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post Jun 26 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 02:44 PM)
Bero once you agreed on a deal, you can't be a sei sohai and cincai change the selling price man.

If can simply change price then why even bother to put a price tag?

Price: tengok mood.

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That's why we sign the agreement right? Maybe you should ask the buyer to prepare an agreement and let the seller sign for every of his purchase lol.
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A contract was formed.
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 02:44 PM)
Bero once you agreed on a deal, you can't be a sei sohai and cincai change the selling price man.

If can simply change price then why even bother to put a price tag?

Price: tengok mood.

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below 5k can go tribunal court ...... above can sue for loss ..
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Jun 26 2017, 02:44 PM)
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Lol he can just keep on posting lor until he gets banned.
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unethical bastard...

if don't know the rules of trade don't sell anything, go back drink some milk and learn some basics
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 02:46 PM)
OK. If a mod is willing to decide on this, I can get all parties involved to come to the table. Right now I only have one unit and two buyers who have paid.
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Wah....so good meh? 2 buyer paid, but only 1 unit? This is interesting whistling.gif

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Jun 26 2017, 02:46 PM)
Lol he can just keep on posting lor until he gets banned.
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then when about to deal.
haiya, got stock problem, need to top up.
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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 02:52 PM)
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Itu extatine aka kevin tang photo lah biggrin.gif
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C'mon guys. Its raya. Additional pocket money is always good.
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Wah....good lah. Even photo can find.
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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 02:57 PM)
I know, hahaha!
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QUOTE(~Sherlock~ @ Jun 26 2017, 03:01 PM)
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Because of tamak, 14 years account reputation and personal details all disclosed to public doh.gif
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QUOTE(GBH @ Jun 26 2017, 03:04 PM)
got kevin tang pic to see ka?
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 02:48 PM)
Wah....so good meh? 2 buyer paid, but only 1 unit? This is interesting  whistling.gif
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i dun see why so hard to decide who gets it, the one who first paid in full gets it lo. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 03:05 PM)
This is the chronology:
Buyer A bought earlier, early in june or late may, can't remember when. Collected unit. This was sold elsewhere and not in LYN.

I got two new units, started selling

Memoling paid 1060 2 weeks later. I reserve one unit for him

Due to high demand I raised the price

Buyer C paid RM1200 this week - I reserved the last unit for him

Buyer A, who has been complaining issue over the last couple of weeks, decided to get a replacement. I have done so this weekend.

As I have one unit left and two buyers, I prefer to sell to the one who can offer higher, though giving priority to Memoling since he bought first.
I only have one unit remaining and two buyers. So who do I sell to? Both already paid.Even in a contract situation, there is an exit clause.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 26 2017, 03:08 PM)
i dun see why so hard to decide who gets it, the one who first paid in full gets it lo.  hmm.gif
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wrong (in the point of extatine], it should be whoever willing to pay more get it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 03:10 PM)
It's simply 'honouring the deal'. Yet he's a master fidget spinner.
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Lel....just for extra RM200? Worth it or not ah? Reputation nowadays so cheap meh? doh.gif
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 03:11 PM)
wrong (in the point of extatine], it should be whoever willing to pay more get it  laugh.gif
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wrong also. the one who paid 1200 was last buyer.. and no more stock so..he should be refunded.
inb4 1060 buyer should have asked seller to send out instead of dillydallying for another week
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QUOTE(GBH @ Jun 26 2017, 03:12 PM)
to be honest i also got similar thing happen to me last year...was selling a lucky draw free gift xiaomi note dun know wat model liao.....in short i tell the other buyer the story(other offer higher hope u understand)...but 1 thing different is i alyiz COD and dont accept booking fee..i straight cod (who can COD todays gets it)
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Good practice. Though I lost on some deals and was quite salty but I understand the seller's viewpoint in that he wants to offload his product ASAP. A bit more salt though was added for my case because I could COD that day itself but suggested the next day because it was a Saturday lol.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 26 2017, 03:14 PM)
wrong also. the one who paid 1200 was last buyer.. and no more stock so..he should be refunded.
inb4 1060 buyer should have asked seller to send out instead of dillydallying for another week
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that's why the stocks goes to whoever paid the highest lor laugh.gif

It's not selling, bidding
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QUOTE(Clea @ Jun 26 2017, 03:14 PM)
Disappointed at extatine failed logic
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Not only him. Other legendary FFK cases as well.

E.g. CRSSER
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QUOTE(Ovalteen @ Jun 26 2017, 03:14 PM)
That's why you know this spinner is greedy.
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Buyer dealing with sg number ?
buyer can straight go sg and make a simple police report ... He will kena
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 26 2017, 03:28 PM)
Buyer dealing with sg number ?
buyer can straight go sg and make a simple police report ... He will kena
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Why?

It wasn't a scam.

It was a business transaction that the seller reneged on.

No crime was committed. Singapore police won't take any action. They would probably ask the buyer to pursue a claim with the Singapore Small Claims Tribunal. But that is also not likely to succeed because the buyer agreed to the refund, grudgingly of course. He didn't really have much of a choice.

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jun 26 2017, 03:31 PM)
Why? 

It wasn't a scam. 

It was a business transaction that the seller reneged on. 

No crime was committed.  Singapore police won't take any action.  They would probably ask the buyer to pursue a claim with the Singapore Small Claims Tribunal.  But that is also not likely to succeed because the buyer agreed to the refund, grudgingly of course.  He didn't really have much of a choice.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jun 26 2017, 01:18 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4339812

TS of the link above bought GTX1060 from eXTaTine for RM1060.

TS already transferred the money to exT and exT promised to post the item.

exT u-turned later say someone offer more and ask TS to top up or choose to refund.

what say you??  hmm.gif
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u sibuk why create poll?? biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Damn stupid buying something from sg when you have lowyat here

How you wanna claim warranty later?

Cheaper also useless
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 26 2017, 03:34 PM)
u sibuk why create poll??  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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see what ppl say ma..

also..got one ktard suggested buka poll..
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see what ppl say ma..

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 26 2017, 03:35 PM)
Damn stupid buying something from sg when you have lowyat here

How you wanna claim warranty later?

Cheaper also useless
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EVGA has international warranty. Just pay idealtech some money to claim for warranty when it breaks down 2 years later.
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QUOTE(Nojo @ Jun 26 2017, 03:41 PM)
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jun 26 2017, 03:31 PM)
Why? 

It wasn't a scam. 

It was a business transaction that the seller reneged on. 

No crime was committed.  Singapore police won't take any action.  They would probably ask the buyer to pursue a claim with the Singapore Small Claims Tribunal.  But that is also not likely to succeed because the buyer agreed to the refund, grudgingly of course.  He didn't really have much of a choice.
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Is breach of contract under Civil act and is cheaper solution compare to law suit also highly effective for SELLER to response ...
greedy for 200 might cost him 10 or 100X if buyer pursuit in Singapore.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 26 2017, 03:45 PM)
Is breach of contract under Civil act and is cheaper solution compare to law suit also highly effective for SELLER to response ...
greedy for 200 might cost him 10 or 100X if buyer pursuit in Singapore.
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Breach of contract is under civil law. Not criminal law.

Cheaper solution is to go to the Small Claims Tribunal. No lawyers needed so no need to pay lawyers' fees.

In any case, even if successful (not likely as the buyer agreed to the refund), the damages awarded won't be much lah. Probably only the difference of buying a new card at market price vs the price the seller was selling originally.

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jun 26 2017, 03:51 PM)
Breach of contract is under civil law.  Not criminal law. 

Cheaper solution is to go to the Small Claims Tribunal.  No lawyers needed so no need to pay lawyers' fees. 

In any case, even if successful (not likely as the buyer agreed to the refund), the damages awarded won't be much lah.  Probably only the difference of buying a new card at market price vs the price the seller was selling originally.
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Yes is civil act, Singapore and most Foreign country treat E-commerce very serious and does have specific act for it ...... if buyer agree and accepted refund that might not be a case, else it can.
Honestly most malaysian don't understand their civil right, root cause of all evil.

yes buyer reward won't be a lot, you have to put in seller situation, which means he willing to pay to solve this issue for his PR/working permit status .....

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Yes is civil act, Singapore and most Foreign country treat E-commerce very serious and does have specific act for it ...... if buyer agree and accepted refund that might not be a case, else it can.
Honestly most malaysian don't understand their civil right, root cause of all evil.

yes buyer reward won't be a lot, you have to put in seller situation, which means he willing to pay to solve this issue for his PR/working permit status .....
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Police won't get involved. It is really a business dispute.
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The disputer has no bola to talk on the phone with me but resort to lowdown tactics to attack me. Small matter wanna blow big? If not happy talk on phone lah, why wanna post in public and also in violation of the LYN terms of dispute.
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I remember this dude got so butthurt about my girlfie tered, he went and dig out my personal info and posted my full name here in /k/.

Together with my occupation and workplace info some more.

I had to fast fast delete that damn post and PM him not to post anymore of my personal info here.

Then I prayed that one day, hope this fooker will go through the things which he put me through.

Well, I guess one good turn deserves another ehh?
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Police won't get involved.  It is really a business dispute.
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That is civil case + it involve cheat, dishonest.
Try and see their cyber division.

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 04:07 PM)
I remember this dude got so butthurt about my girlfie tered, he went and dig out my personal info and posted my full name here in /k/.

Together with my occupation and workplace info some more.

I had to fast fast delete that damn post and PM him not to post anymore of my personal info here.

Then I prayed that one day, hope this fooker will go through the things which he put me through.

Well, I guess one good turn deserves another ehh?
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That is civil case + it involve cheat, dishonest.
Try and see their cyber division.
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No cheating, IMO.

Dishonesty, yes. But that's still not a crime.
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 04:07 PM)
I remember this dude got so butthurt about my girlfie tered, he went and dig out my personal info and posted my full name here in /k/.

Together with my occupation and workplace info some more.

I had to fast fast delete that damn post and PM him not to post anymore of my personal info here.

Then I prayed that one day, hope this fooker will go through the things which he put me through.

Well, I guess one good turn deserves another ehh?
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then he tokok about violation of the LYN terms of dispute.
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wow,i just saw this post....
i really dunno this thing can be that big
what i wan to do just share my experience and let other aware before deal with seller
that's all, the seller also need to be respected, he not doing anything to me.(but phone number really need put as reference...)
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 04:55 PM)
wow,i just saw this post....
i really dunno this thing can be that big
what i wan to do just share my experience and let other aware before deal with seller
that's all, the seller also need to be respected, he not doing anything to me.(but phone number really need put as reference...)
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dont worry... i will delete any of his personal details here..

but ur case serve as a warning to those wish to deal with him..
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jun 26 2017, 04:10 PM)
Wow.  What an ass.
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Yea man!

Thanks to him, you guys can no longer enjoice my girlfie tered.

Cuz my bola kecut liao when he did that.
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dont worry... i will delete any of his personal details here..

but ur case serve as a warning to those wish to deal with him..
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then he tokok about violation of the LYN terms of dispute.
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Next time dont so fast make decision,
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 04:14 PM)
Unlike him, I am not about to stoop so low as to post his personal info online over some perceived slight. I did not even scam him as I made a full refund, what grounds does he have for posting my personal info online?
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You posted my fooking FULL NAME and my work details here simply because you were butthurt of my girlfie tereds.

So what grounds did you have for posting those info online hahh??

QUOTE(fatvader @ Jun 26 2017, 04:25 PM)
why u revealed bb100 personal info before?

lol
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Lol right bero?

I guess my prayers are answered bero.

Syukur...
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 05:05 PM)
Yea man!

Thanks to him, you guys can no longer enjoice my girlfie tered.

Cuz my bola kecut liao when he did that.
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Hi bb100 based on my chat history, it's clear I did not divulge your personal info, why do you accuse.me of doing so? I believe you have read through it.
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Hahaha exactly man!

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Lol ppl agree with your price dy and paid  then want to cancel his order just because someone willing to pay extra...
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 05:17 PM)
You posted my fooking FULL NAME and my work details here simply because you were butthurt of my girlfie tereds.

So what grounds did you have for posting those info online hahh??
Lol right bero?

I guess my prayers are answered bero.

Syukur...
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I'm pretty sure I didn't post your full name. As for your work details, it wasn't even a secret you were telling everybody about it.

I didn't disclose your personal info, so why do you accuse me of doing so?

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 05:30 PM)
I'm pretty sure I didn't post your full name. As for your work details, it wasn't even a secret you were telling everybody about it.

I didn't disclose your personal info, so why do you accuse me of doing so?
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Why you backside itchy mention my name here?

I stepped on your tail is it that time?

I opened a harmless girlfie tered and suddenly I found my personal info being revealed.

You think very fun ahh?

You know what shit happened after that?

If you don't know, then just shut up and STOP SENDING ME POINTLESS PMs.
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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jun 26 2017, 05:28 PM)
Man...this tered make me want fidget spinner. I hope the shop won't suddenly increase price even I already give the money.
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RM10, buy 1 free 1......but, will post to you after 10 days, if no one offer me higher price biggrin.gif
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Lul tered derail

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jun 26 2017, 05:35 PM)
Why you backside itchy mention my name here?

I stepped on your tail is it that time?

I opened a harmless girlfie tered and suddenly I found my personal info being revealed.

You think very fun ahh?

You know what shit happened after that?

If you don't know, then just shut up and STOP SENDING ME POINTLESS PMs.
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What info? I definitely kept things vague to guard your privacy. But now you are accusing me of disclosing your info.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 05:39 PM)
What info? I definitely kept things vague to guard your privacy. But now you are accusing me of disclosing your info.
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Well, I believe God answered my prayers.

So for the most accurate answer, I am afraid you have to ask Him.

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Dey, you're on the wrong here! Don't pusing like a fidget spinner Y2K.
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wow,i just saw this post....
i really dunno this thing can be that big
what i wan to do just share my experience and let other aware before deal with seller
that's all, the seller also need to be respected, he not doing anything to me.(but phone number really need put as reference...)
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lai welcome to the troll tered.

now u famous dy

that other tered cannot troll, so we do all the trollingzzzz here
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macam dupe je

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lai welcome to the troll tered.

now u famous dy

that other tered cannot troll, so we do all the trollingzzzz here
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 05:45 PM)
maybe buyer dupe  laugh.gif
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possible biggrin.gif

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maybe buyer dupe  laugh.gif
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i also no idea,i can sure not me
can call mod to check ip too
and got a lot random acc to spam at my post for the seller facebook detail....
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 26 2017, 05:48 PM)
possible  biggrin.gif

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can sure not me,i got post this at pc gaming community
maybe that time got ppl wan to comment too
the one who post is me,my fb acc
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bodo extatine tak tau scammed.jext time cakapla nenek mati ka apa aiyaa
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He did not scam, just a dishonest person.
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i also no idea,i can sure not me
can call mod to check ip too
and got a lot random acc to spam at my post for the seller facebook detail....
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fineeee..u seem trustable and bagus jugak alot of forumers support u.

meanwhile let bb100 attack him more and see whether extatinetetek got balls to reply or not lul
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 26 2017, 05:52 PM)
fineeee..u seem trustable and bagus jugak alot of forumers support u.

meanwhile let bb100 attack him more and see whether extatinetetek got balls to reply or not lul
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 05:49 PM)
i also no idea,i can sure not me
can call mod to check ip too
and got a lot random acc to spam at my post for the seller facebook detail....
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How did the guy found his FB, was it originally in your thread? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 26 2017, 05:52 PM)
fineeee..u seem trustable and bagus jugak alot of forumers support u.

meanwhile let bb100 attack him more and see whether extatinetetek got balls to reply or not lul
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i really no idea this can happen so much haha
maybe monday blue hmm.gif
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Dude.. yang ko ni excited sangat apasal? laugh.gif
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raya holiday boring la bang

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 26 2017, 05:52 PM)
fineeee..u seem trustable and bagus jugak alot of forumers support u.

meanwhile let bb100 attack him more and see whether extatinetetek got balls to reply or not lul
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Lel...dunno to label u batu api or referee in troll thread...anyway, good raya holiday enjoyment laugh.gif
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How did the guy found his FB, was it originally in your thread?  biggrin.gif
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dunno,also got random acc pm me the fb...
i totally no idea and first time post at there
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Lel...dunno to label u batu api or referee in troll thread...anyway, good raya holiday enjoyment  laugh.gif
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u guess batu api would be suitable. laugh.gif
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How did the guy found his FB, was it originally in your thread?  biggrin.gif
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memoling. if you still looking for 1060, can try asking zerorating. not sure he sold his card or not but no harm asking.

but he is standard 2 years warranty not 2+3.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jun 26 2017, 05:55 PM)
memoling. if you still looking for 1060, can try asking zerorating. not sure he sold his card or not but no harm asking.

but he is standard 2 years warranty not 2+3.
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u guess batu api would be suitable. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 05:58 PM)
ok thx,i think i need sometime to recover my trust to the internet first blush.gif  blush.gif
internet are dangerous
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just buy saje, he frequent /k so if really scam Baconeter will find him.

or just buy R580?

i mean it's around 300-400 difference, but you get 2+3 years warranty if you buy from some shops like dotatech.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jun 26 2017, 06:00 PM)
just buy saje, he frequent /k so if really scam Baconeter will find him.

or just buy R580?

i mean it's around 300-400 difference, but you get 2+3 years warranty if you buy from some shops like dotatech.
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brapa commission dapat? Share share cikit can? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Jun 26 2017, 05:56 PM)
not a scammer imo just a bit cunt for doing that
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jun 26 2017, 06:00 PM)
just buy saje, he frequent /k so if really scam Baconeter will find him.

or just buy R580?

i mean it's around 300-400 difference, but you get 2+3 years warranty if you buy from some shops like dotatech.
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now all 580,570,480,470 are no stock sad.gif
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that's why i wan buy 1060 6gb
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 06:03 PM)
now all 580,570,480,470 are no stock sad.gif
due to bitcoin mining bangwall.gif
that's why i wan buy 1060 6gb
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Beli jer la PS4 kan senang?
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brapa commission dapat? Share share cikit can?  laugh.gif
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no commission la, i'm not helping zerorating, just helping TS coz sure Raya time kena this seller kesian.

last time he offer rm9xx for the 1060 6GB, but i bought from shop coz shop got 2+3 years warranty.

my ATI broke after less than 5 years, so now it's worthless, if got warranty, at least that card can be used for less graphic intensive use. Cards nowadays really quality not as good, i bought Zotac btw. not cheap, paid rm1.35k... but at least got warranty.
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 06:03 PM)
now all 580,570,480,470 are no stock sad.gif
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that's why i wan buy 1060 6gb
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try pm zerorating, or did you check up dotatech whether they have stock for zotac 1060? the mini edition (1 fan) cost around 1.1k, amp edition (2 fans) 1.35k few months back.

http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/lingloon...C2-244815-1.htm

ok seems sold out.

can try these instead:

https://www.lelong.com.my/catalog/all/list?...word=zotac+1060

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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 06:03 PM)
now all 580,570,480,470 are no stock sad.gif
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that's why i wan buy 1060 6gb
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Mining already hard now.maybe next month will be the end of gpu mining.gamer prepare your money..
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Beli jer la PS4 kan senang?
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what i wan to play are not available at ps4 sad.gif
maybe future will consider it
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no commission la, i'm not helping zerorating, just helping TS coz sure Raya time kena this seller kesian.

last time he offer rm9xx for the 1060 6GB, but i bought from shop coz shop got 2+3 years warranty.

my ATI broke after less than 5 years, so now it's worthless, if got warranty, at least that card can be used for less graphic intensive use. Cards nowadays really quality not as good, i bought Zotac btw. not cheap, paid rm1.35k... but at least got warranty.
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Hey guys you want to hate on me cos of my posts in /k fine la, but please be fair to me. I have been selling so many units with many happy customer.

I sell my units with a 30 days swap or refund. An earlier buyer wanted to swap on his defective card so I did so, leaving me with one unit.

Now I ended up with one unit remaining and two buyers who paid in full. I could only send the item to one of them. So I was willing to sell to the first buyer at 50 below the 2nd buyer.

If you say it's a misjudgement in my side I don't dispute that. But I have no intent on being unethical.

Please be rational and fair to me, just because you hate me doesn't mean you should demonize me.
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Hey guys you want to hate on me cos of my posts in /k fine la, but please be fair to me. I have been selling so many units with many happy customer.

I sell my units with a 30 days swap or refund. An earlier buyer wanted to swap on his defective card so I did so, leaving me with one unit.

Now I ended up with one unit remaining and two buyers who paid in full. I could only send the item to one of them. So I was willing to sell to the first buyer at 50 below the 2nd buyer.

If you say it's a misjudgement in my side I don't dispute that. But I have no intent on being unethical.

Please be rational and fair to me, just because you hate me doesn't mean you should demonize me.
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the buyer with problem card, how much did he pay you for it? and was the deal earlier than the dispute/refunded buyer of 15jun?

i think my solution would be best:

dispute card, refund him (since got option to replace or refund if u didnt have any more cards)

the other two recent purchases, just send them their cards. end of story lo.


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the buyer with problem card, how much did he pay you for it? and was the deal earlier than the dispute/refunded buyer of 15jun?

i think my solution would be best:

dispute card, refund him (since got option to replace or refund if u didnt have any more cards)

the other two recent purchases, just send them their cards. end of story lo.
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If I hadn't already swapped, I could. But I already have done the swap, so don't think I can take it back now.

The very first buyer took the card back in 30th may, way earlier than the other two.

Don't think the first buyer price is relevant for this discussion, it is around the price Memoling paid and it wasn't dealt through Lyn.
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This is the chronology:
Buyer A bought earlier, early in june or late may, can't remember when. Collected unit. This was sold elsewhere and not in LYN.

I got two new units, started selling

Memoling paid 1060 2 weeks later. I reserve one unit for him

Due to high demand I raised the price

Buyer C paid RM1200 this week - I reserved the last unit for him

Buyer A, who has been complaining issue over the last couple of weeks, decided to get a replacement. I have done so this weekend.

As I have one unit left and two buyers, I prefer to sell to the one who can offer higher, though giving priority to Memoling since he bought first.
I only have one unit remaining and two buyers. So who do I sell to? Both already paid.Even in a contract situation, there is an exit clause.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 06:35 PM)
Hey guys you want to hate on me cos of my posts in /k fine la, but please be fair to me. I have been selling so many units with many happy customer.

I sell my units with a 30 days swap or refund. An earlier buyer wanted to swap on his defective card so I did so, leaving me with one unit.

Now I ended up with one unit remaining and two buyers who paid in full. I could only send the item to one of them. So I was willing to sell to the first buyer at 50 below the 2nd buyer.

If you say it's a misjudgement in my side I don't dispute that. But I have no intent on being unethical.

Please be rational and fair to me, just because you hate me doesn't mean you should demonize me.
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I will let /k here to decide.....

And, I help u to summarised the the chronology of the story

Late May/ Early June - buyer A buy 1 unit.
2 weeks later - momoling bought 1 unit
This week - Buyer C bought another unit.
Few weeks ago - buyer A complaining problem, ask for replacement.

So, in summary, u got only 2 unit, and at same time u know u need to replace 1 unit to buyer A, why do u still sell to buyer C?

And, then, why u ask momoling to pay extra, to match buyer C price if he still want it?

If this is not called unethical, I don't have any other words to describe, my engrand no good.

If I were you, just a simple apology to momoling, to everyone and admit you make mistake, being stupid and greedy at that time, and hope everyone will forgive u, at least can salvage whatever reputation u got (old account nie), rather than spin and spin like fidget spinner rclxub.gif



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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 06:56 PM)
If I hadn't already swapped, I could. But I already have done the swap, so don't think I can take it back now.

The very first buyer took the card back in 30th may, way earlier than the other two.

Don't think the first buyer price is relevant for this discussion, it is around the price Memoling paid and it wasn't dealt through Lyn.
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ok yeah first buyer 30may is already way past, since u brought the story up (about using 1 card to do swap) only i ask lo.

so if memoling, paid on 15jun and you send it out 16-17june. would the issue have been closed? the rm1200 buyer only paid a few days later right?
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I will let /k here to decide.....

And, I help u to summarised the the chronology of the story

Late May/ Early June - buyer A buy 1 unit.
2 weeks later - momoling bought 1 unit
This week - Buyer C bought another unit.
Few weeks ago - buyer A complaining problem, ask for replacement.

So, in summary, u got only 2 unit, and at same time u know u need to replace 1 unit to buyer A, why do u still sell to buyer C?

And, then, why u ask momoling to pay extra, to match buyer C price if he still want it?

If this is not called unethical, I don't have any other words to describe, my engrand no good.

If I were you, just a simple apology to momoling, to everyone and admit you make mistake, being stupid and greedy at that time, and hope everyone will forgive u, at least can salvage whatever reputation u got (old account nie), rather than spin and spin like fidget spinner  rclxub.gif
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The very first buyer only raised the rma issue just before this weekend and I only dealt with him yesterday

I sold to buyer c as he made payment before buyer A raised rma issue


QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 26 2017, 06:58 PM)
ok yeah first buyer 30may is already way past, since u brought the story up (about using 1 card to do swap) only i ask lo.

so if memoling, paid on 15jun and you send it out 16-17june. would the issue have been closed? the rm1200 buyer only paid a few days later right?
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Cos when Memoling paid I had two units inbound and wasn't in my hands yet. And anyway I only ship from Malaysia so I schedule my shipment to be this Tuesday when I bring the units in.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:07 PM)
The very first buyer only raised the rma issue just before this weekend and I only dealt with him yesterday

I sold to buyer c as he made payment before buyer A raised rma issue
Cos when Memoling paid I had two units inbound and wasn't in my hands yet. And anyway I only ship from Malaysia so I schedule my shipment to be this Tuesday when I bring the units in.
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susah also liddat. sweat.gif
in anycase, with your new info, you should have refunded buyer A, citing no more cards to swap.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 26 2017, 07:11 PM)
susah also liddat.  sweat.gif
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Anyway I spoke with both Memoling and the last buyer, the last buyer understand my situation and willing to let go the unit, but now Memoling don't want it anymore. So the point is moot anyway.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 03:05 PM)
This is the chronology:
Buyer A bought earlier, early in june or late may, can't remember when. Collected unit. This was sold elsewhere and not in LYN.

I got two new units, started selling

Memoling paid 1060 2 weeks later. I reserve one unit for him

Due to high demand I raised the price

Buyer C paid RM1200 this week - I reserved the last unit for him

Buyer A, who has been complaining issue over the last couple of weeks, decided to get a replacement. I have done so this weekend.

As I have one unit left and two buyers, I prefer to sell to the one who can offer higher, though giving priority to Memoling since he bought first.
I only have one unit remaining and two buyers. So who do I sell to? Both already paid.Even in a contract situation, there is an exit clause.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:07 PM)
The very first buyer only raised the rma issue just before this weekend and I only dealt with him yesterday

I sold to buyer c as he made payment before buyer A raised rma issue
Cos when Memoling paid I had two units inbound and wasn't in my hands yet. And anyway I only ship from Malaysia so I schedule my shipment to be this Tuesday when I bring the units in.
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How do you explain your statement above, in bold?

Plus very interesting to see if you can pull out the contract between u and momoling specify there is an exit clause laugh.gif
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I know I can't win an argument here since there are many people here that hate on me but in terms of sales, I have always tried to do my dealings ethically. Frankly, it's just a misunderstanding.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:14 PM)
Anyway I spoke with both Memoling and the last buyer, the last buyer understand my situation and willing to let go the unit, but now Memoling don't want it anymore. So the point is moot anyway.
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Coz your reputation is oledi down the drain. Doubt anyone would want to deal with you in future......In online trade, reputation is everything, coz the buyer trust you without knowing u, examinining the products physically but to transfer their money to you. And, you decided to spoil your reputation just by RM100+ . Even in future, if you sell anything via COD, doubt anyone would trust you anymore, coz anytime you might ffk citing some buyer offer higher price. And, don't even get me start with any warranty or after sales service

Just don't understand you, a simple apology to all say you being stupid and too greedy, and wish everyone kind enough to forgive u


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How do you explain your statement above, in bold?

Plus very interesting to see if you can pull out the contract between u and momoling specify there is an exit clause  laugh.gif
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Yes.

By exit clause I mean any contract has terms when there is a breach of contract. I believe the practice in Lyn is to refund in full. Which I did immediately after notifying Memoling

Yes I don't deny I chose the one who paid more. But I am choosing between two people who paid in full.as for Memoling being earlier, I was prepared to discount rm50 as a gesture.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:22 PM)
I know I can't win an argument here since there are many people here that hate on me but in terms of sales, I have always tried to do my dealings ethically. Frankly, it's just a misunderstanding.
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It is not who winning argument here, it that your action is unethical and you claim it as misunderstanding. doh.gif
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:22 PM)
I know I can't win an argument here since there are many people here that hate on me but in terms of sales, I have always tried to do my dealings ethically. Frankly, it's just a misunderstanding.
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I don't think many people hate u bcoz of what u had post in /k, instead it is bcoz of you are a dishonest seller

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 07:26 PM)
Coz your reputation is oledi down the drain. Doubt anyone would want to deal with you in future......In online trade, reputation is everything, coz the buyer trust you without knowing u, examinining the products physically but to transfer their money to you. And, you decided to spoil your reputation just by RM100+ . Even in future, if you sell anything via COD, doubt anyone would trust you anymore, coz anytime you might ffk citing some buyer offer higher price. And, don't even get me start with any warranty or after sales service

Just don't understand you, a simple apology to all say you being stupid and too greedy, and wish everyone kind enough to forgive u
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I already apologised for my mistake to Memoling. But I will not apologise for him anymore after disclosing my private info online and using the mob to pass judgement on me. He wanna play victim but he don't want to talk with me on the phone when I try to call him to resolve things.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:27 PM)
Yes.

By exit clause I mean any contract has terms when there is a breach of contract. I believe the practice in Lyn is to refund in full. Which I did immediately after notifying Memoling

Yes I don't deny I chose the one who paid more. But I am choosing between two people who paid in full.as for Memoling being earlier, I was prepared to discount rm50 as a gesture.
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but, in first place, how do you explain why it took you so long to post the item to momoling? If you post it immediately or 1 day after momoling paid u, then, you got no issue with buyer C. Even if with Buyer A come back claim RMA, then, you can politely tell him that you have no stock, either refund him back or send back to factory....

Very clear cut case, you have 2 units, but try to sell it to 3 seller, to whoever willing to pay higher price. That's the issue. If this not unethical, what do you call it? I stupid, engrand no good
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I don't think many peoples hate u bcoz of what u had post in /k, instead it is bcoz of you are a dishonest seller
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Actually there are. You already see a few of them in this thread. When was I ever given a chance to explain my self? It was clear that the presumption was that of guilt. Only now can I explain myself without being hammered.

Plus the many dupes and the person posting my fb photo, if not mistaken is binding. He has an agenda with me.

Yes I did sell to the higher paying one. But both had already paid in full! So I merely chose the one that paid higher. Yes Memoling paid slightly earlier, so I was willing to sell at 1150. But really there was no good choice after the swap.

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 07:32 PM)
but, in first place, how do you explain why it took you so long to post the item to momoling? If you post it immediately or 1 day after momoling paid u, then, you got no issue with buyer C. Even if with Buyer A come back claim RMA, then, you can politely tell him that you have no stock, either refund him back or send back to factory....

Very clear cut case, you have 2 units, but try to sell it to 3 seller, to whoever willing to pay higher price. That's the issue. If this not unethical, what do you call it? I stupid, engrand no good
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I sold to Memoling with the understanding it was not ready stock. That's why it took so long to post.

Yes on hindsight I should have refunded but he was quite insistent on swap. I gave in, to my mistake.

Factory return is for sales after 30 days.

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I sold to Memoling with the understanding it was not ready stock. That's why it took so long to post.

Yes on hindsight I should have refunded but he was quite insistent on swap. I gave in, to my mistake.

Factory return is for sales after 30 days.
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Your "mistake" is that you selling it whoever willing to pay for highest price whistling.gif
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Lul 12 pages..brb getting popcorn
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Lul 12 pages..brb getting popcorn
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proof that many /k takde nothing to do during raya time laugh.gif including yours truly
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Your "mistake" is that you selling it whoever willing to pay for highest price  whistling.gif
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So I should sell for free? Since making a profit is crime.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 06:35 PM)
Hey guys you want to hate on me cos of my posts in /k fine la, but please be fair to me. I have been selling so many units with many happy customer.

I sell my units with a 30 days swap or refund. An earlier buyer wanted to swap on his defective card so I did so, leaving me with one unit.

Now I ended up with one unit remaining and two buyers who paid in full. I could only send the item to one of them. So I was willing to sell to the first buyer at 50 below the 2nd buyer.

If you say it's a misjudgement in my side I don't dispute that. But I have no intent on being unethical.

Please be rational and fair to me, just because you hate me doesn't mean you should demonize me.
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No bro you already wrong. You deal with momolingling and agreed 1060 and deal right. So he banked in to you . This is evidence and proof. You must sell to him no matter what. Unless before momoling banking in, you tell momoling that you might have shortage of stock and might increase the price again in case there is shortage of stock. But i assume you dont right because if you do so who gonna be that stupid to deal with you? Luckily momoling is nice girl/boy. In fact he can choose to make a police report that you cheated him/her because after banking Rm1060 to you but you refused to send the item to him. And polis will lock up you, you see.
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QUOTE(LamTin @ Jun 26 2017, 07:57 PM)
No bro you already wrong. You deal with momolingling and agreed 1060 and deal right. So he banked in to you . This is evidence and proof. You must sell to him no matter what. Unless before momoling banking in, you tell momoling that you might have shortage of stock and might increase the price again in case there is shortage of stock. But i assume you dont right because if you do so who gonna be that stupid to deal with you? Luckily momoling is nice girl/boy. In fact he can choose to make a police report that you cheated him/her because after banking Rm1060 to you but you refused to send the item to him. And polis will lock up you, you see.
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I got two people pay already and one item. I have to refund one.

U trolling Right? Polis lock me up after refund everything?

Let's not get into your case
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:49 PM)
So I should sell for free? Since making a profit is crime.
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Making profit is not crime, but, requesting buyer to pay above what been previously agreed is unethical
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:00 PM)
I got two people pay already and one item. I have to refund one.

U trolling Right?  Polis lock me up after refund everything?

Let's not get into your case
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Now momoling cannot report to polis already because you already refunded him/her. But if he refused to accept ur refund, momoling can make a polis report. This case is under komersial jenayah unit. I am not kidding to you brother. Luckily momoling is nice or perhaps he/she is still green or else you really in trouble.
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 08:02 PM)
Making profit is not crime, but, requesting buyer to pay above what been previously agreed is unethical
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I asked him that as a gesture because I had two buyers who paid in full and I could only fulfill one of them. I would have sold to him if he was willing to pay 1150 since he banked in slightly earlier. The second buyer already paid 1200 in full and I was willing to cancel that deal at 1150 since memo paid earlier.

If I really wanted to be unethical I could have made it a bidding war and none would be the wiser. I could have sold this even higher if I wanted to

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extatine is a good person teach me in business ,

next time i will selling one item in RM100 and take 2 buyers moeny.
then i tall to them know

“Item just have one , if u need please top up to RM150 to me”

is the trick can earn more RM50..oh yeah.

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:03 PM)
I asked him that as a gesture because I had two buyers who paid in full and I could only fulfill one of them. I would have sold to him if he was willing to pay 1150 since he banked in slightly earlier.
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Should not even need to ask, brainless to ask, should sell to whoever who paid first, and refund back the one who pay later. What is the objective of you asking momoling to pay higher? Unless u tell me when u agreed the price, you sell with zero profit or lost. Then, you can claim your stupidity for the deal, but, still need to honour the deal.

What if you go market buy fish, agreed with seller RM50. Then, due to limited supply, the seller said, if you still want it, it now RM70 coz another buyer willing to pay RM70. What you call the fish seller? Unethical seller, not "misunderstood" seller biggrin.gif
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extatine is a good person teach me in business ,

next time i will selling one item in RM100 and take 2 buyers moeny.
then i tall to them know

“Item just have one , if u need please top up to RM150 to me” 

is the trick can earn more RM50..oh yeah.
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But then ur trustworthy will be 0, and ur ex customers will not buy from u again. It is worth it?
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QUOTE(devokeon @ Jun 26 2017, 08:08 PM)
extatine is a good person teach me in business ,

next time i will selling one item in RM100 and take 2 buyers moeny.
then i tall to them know

“Item just have one , if u need please top up to RM150 to me” 

is the trick can earn more RM50..oh yeah.
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make sure u collect money first tau laugh.gif if COD, later both buyer also duwan, u end up item nobody want laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zihh1124 @ Jun 26 2017, 08:11 PM)
But then ur trustworthy will be 0, and ur ex customers will not buy from u again. It is worth it?
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 08:10 PM)
Should not even need to ask, brainless to ask, should sell to whoever who paid first, and refund back the one who pay later. What is the objective of you asking momoling to pay higher?  Unless u tell me when u agreed the price, you sell with zero profit or lost. Then, you can claim your stupidity for the deal, but, still need to honour the deal.

What if you go market buy fish, agreed with seller RM50. Then, due to limited supply, the seller said, if you still want it, it now RM70 coz another buyer willing to pay RM70. What you call the fish seller? Unethical seller, not "misunderstood" seller  biggrin.gif
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Your fish seller analogy is not accurate as both buyer paid already. I had to choose one.

Let me put another analogy. Want to buy house. Agent take both deposit for two houses that haven't complete transaction yet. One house burnt down. Left one . Who would the agent sell the balance unit to? The higher buyer right?
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make sure u collect money first tau  laugh.gif if COD, later both buyer also duwan, u end up item nobody want  laugh.gif
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But then ur trustworthy will be 0, and ur ex customers will not buy from u again. It is worth it?
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Depends how much your reputation worth... biggrin.gif RM140 or RM140k or RM140 million
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:14 PM)
Your fish seller analogy is not accurate as both buyer paid already. I had to choose one.

Let me put another analogy. Want to buy house. Agent take both deposit for two houses that haven't complete transaction yet. One house burnt down. Left one . Who would the agent sell the balance unit to? The higher buyer right?
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Of course to the one who paid the deposits first lah....like then, why stop collect from 2 buyers only? Why not collect from 200 buyers, ask who can give me the highest price, the house is theirs biggrin.gif...else, what's the point of paying deposits? For fun ah?

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 08:17 PM)
Of course to the one who paid the deposits first lah....like then, why stop collect from 2 buyers only? Why not collect from 200 buyers, ask who can give me the highest price, the house is theirs  biggrin.gif
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You just saying that to put the blame on me. In real life 100% would go to the highest bidder. I'm referring to the case where two people have paid. Not one paid and asking for higher bidder.

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 08:17 PM)
Of course to the one who paid the deposits first lah....like then, why stop collect from 2 buyers only? Why not collect from 200 buyers, ask who can give me the highest price, the house is theirs  biggrin.gif...else, what's the point of paying deposits? For fun ah?
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Your fish seller analogy is not accurate as both buyer paid already. I had to choose one.

Let me put another analogy. Want to buy house. Agent take both deposit for two houses that haven't complete transaction yet. One house burnt down. Left one . Who would the agent sell the balance unit to? The higher buyer right?
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I agree, sell to the higher buyer.

But in my opinion you made a mistake by asking the first buyer to top up.

You should have tell him that there is no stock left. Or just honor the deal with him.
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QUOTE(aliias @ Jun 26 2017, 08:20 PM)
I agree, sell to the higher buyer.

But in my opinion you made a mistake by asking the first buyer to top up.

You should have tell him that there is no stock left. Or just honor the deal with him.
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Maybe I should have told him no stock left, that's true.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 26 2017, 08:23 PM)
bodoh, your case was not a deposit la bodoh.

He paid IN FULL to you, you dumbass.

Bodoh stay in SG too long become kiasu like Singaporeans ka?

Go die and rot in hell, all these while I thought you were one of the good k members as your account is quite old. Now you're just shit, business also no ethics. Won't be long till you go broke.
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I said already both paid in full. Not one paid and one didn't. If only one had paid I surely would have sell to the one who paid. But now both paid in full.

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just curious, why accept 2 payments in the first place? who paid first, that should be it. i have been in the same situation before... because my item was free postage, 2nd person said he willing pay with no discount and COD.. i could have make some money from the postage cost by COD but i didnt and insist item sold... just my 2 cents... jangan marah...
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I already apologised for my mistake to Memoling. But I will not apologise for him anymore after disclosing my private info online and using the mob to pass judgement on me. He wanna play victim but he don't want to talk with me on the phone when I try to call him to resolve things.
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WTF bro??!!! I never get your apologize at all,dun state it so easy!!!
No even a sorry!!!
Seriously you wan to make this more difficult way to settle??
I am try to be nice and good people
But you are still pusing around on this post and act like innocent people....
What I wan just an apologize,was that hard?!
I am piss now for you still try make yourself correct and try make your statement are right!!!!

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:19 PM)
You just saying that to put the blame on me. In real life 100% would go to the highest bidder. I'm referring to the case where two people have paid. Not one paid and asking for higher bidder.
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first of all, u must understand and know how to differentiate between selling and bidding.

With my bohtakchek aka no skool and limited engrand, selling is you sell to the buyer who paid u first. Siapa cepat dia dapat. First come first serve. Bidding is when you put it a floor price, whoever willing to offer u highest price got it.

So, are you telling me your thread is bidding not selling?

Nah...I left your selling link to here don't delete or amend yeah biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 08:27 PM)
WTF bro??!!! I never get your apologize at all,dun state it so easy!!!
No even a sorry!!!
Seriously you wan to make this more difficult way to settle??
I am try to be nice and good people
But you are still pusing around on this post and act like innocent people....
What I wan just an apologize,was that hard?!
I am piss now for you still try make yourself correct and try make your statement are right!!!!
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oh shit..round 2 inkambing..!
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ask for an immediate refund and go buy a new card?
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I thought I could have a civil discussion here. No point when people harassing me here. No more posts from me until things have calmed down
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No civil discussion when you yourself is not a civilized person. You're trash, even cheaper than a prostotute, so why should other people treat you better?
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QUOTE(memoling @ Jun 26 2017, 08:27 PM)
WTF bro??!!! I never get your apologize at all,dun state it so easy!!!
No even a sorry!!!
Seriously you wan to make this more difficult way to settle??
I am try to be nice and good people
But you are still pusing around on this post and act like innocent people....
What I wan just an apologize,was that hard?!
I am piss now for you still try make yourself correct and try make your statement are right!!!!
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Dont angry memoling. sad.gif happy holiday..
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Dont angry memoling.  sad.gif happy holiday..
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are u oso one of the penipu scammer kena tangkap by polis trying to blackmail the missing pastor family? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 26 2017, 07:46 PM)
Base on seller responses ... I think more will come
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Dont worry..i got loads of popcorn summore biggrin.gif

QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 07:47 PM)
proof that many /k takde nothing to do during raya time  laugh.gif including yours truly
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Yess agreed
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are u oso one of the penipu scammer kena tangkap by polis trying to blackmail the missing pastor family?  hmm.gif
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yuen wang. Time will tell ...be patience.
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hahaha... reputation spoilt by greed... <RM200..i rather burn it than burn ur forum stars
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wah....forum star so valuable. Ok, opening [WTS] thread first, sell my account. To the highest bidder laugh.gif

QUOTE(LamTin @ Jun 26 2017, 08:37 PM)
yuen wang. Time will tell ...be patience.
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Really? When will be next court hearing? whistling.gif
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wah....forum star so valuable. Ok, opening [WTS] thread first, sell my account. To the highest bidder  laugh.gif
Really? When will be next court hearing?  whistling.gif
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next month,but not trial yet u know malaysia court lauya till crazy everything no efficient.. Now no evidence at all. Lawyer will tell judge and see how to drop case. But i will surely invite all the media to the last hearing after judge deliver verdict.
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buyer also sudah bising lol
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QUOTE(kehadapan @ Jun 26 2017, 08:49 PM)
ini greedy bastard namanya

buyer also sudah bising lol
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wrong, according to seller, ini panggil business laugh.gif
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wah....forum star so valuable. Ok, opening [WTS] thread first, sell my account. To the highest bidder  laugh.gif
Really? When will be next court hearing?  whistling.gif
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Your account stars so worthless compared to mine ler
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Hmmm...mmean while ppl got rm400 voucher courtesy from samsung s8..tq samsung
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Dont angry memoling.  sad.gif happy holiday..
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Kek..
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I thought I could have a civil discussion here. No point when people harassing me here. No more posts from me until things have calmed down
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come i sell you my CPU rm200

but when i see demand is high i now hereby sell you rm400

you on?

if you on i post my naked pictures online
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LOL LAGI EXPLAIN LAGI NAMPAK PENGNIPU SCANNER

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jun 26 2017, 01:18 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4339812

TS of the link above bought GTX1060 from eXTaTine for RM1060.

TS already transferred the money to exT and exT promised to post the item.

exT u-turned later say someone offer more and ask TS to top up or choose to refund.

what say you??  hmm.gif
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WTF
Last time deal with him GTX1070
I know SG set so cheap
So i take risk.
Syukur not died yet
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Jun 27 2017, 12:16 AM)
WTF
Last time deal with him GTX1070
I know SG set so cheap
So i take risk.
Syukur not died yet
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Lucky you then..
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It's his rights to get the better deal for himself.

At most just unethical if he already struck a deal with ts in the first place. I think he should just sell to the highest offer instead of asking the original buyer to top up which lead to the suspicion.

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Just buy from others loh since he already refund you. TS butt hurt because can't get the cheap graphic card and earn the <RM200 himself perhaps?
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jun 27 2017, 12:20 AM)
Lucky you then..
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So far i have okay deal with him.
Just how he address customer is wrong way, he need recitify this issue.
Another one is how he chat with you not so smooth writing, what i mean is he didnt say nice only la..
He will tell you what you buy from him and condition for dealing with him.
So far he honest seller but poor how to address customer.
Many people learn from mistake , so i just be positive as his customer. I'm myself not perfect so i never expect anythings.
He will learn from this mistake im sure. I know the risk buy from him for warranty purpose.
But he sell so cheap for Zotac 1070 AMP lol

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latest trend is scammer all act aggresive to sound innocent.

last time one is blackmail for no more refund if victims keep talking about it on forum.
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 07:22 PM)
How do you explain your statement above, in bold?

Plus very interesting to see if you can pull out the contract between u and momoling specify there is an exit clause  laugh.gif
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so story is Memoling paid in full 1 week earlier than C, but now only has 1 unit for both of them, C willing to let go, but Seller wants Memoling to top up the difference.

Extatine is just plain greedy. It's not like his cost went up. He just wanted to make more money.

The agreement between Memoling & seller price is xxx, contract between buyer C is yyy, now because only 1 unit left, if Memoling wants, he have to pay for yyy. But now seller wants Memoling to pay yyy just because buyer C willing to pay yyy.

Like this, i can simply make up stories about buyer C, D & E then ask buyer B to pay more, just because "demand went up".


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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jun 26 2017, 08:53 PM)
wrong, according to seller, ini panggil business  laugh.gif
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biz is 1st come 1st serve, buyer already paid in full, yet just because 2nd buyer paying higher price means you can simply cancel people's order?

it's not like buyer asked to reserve for 1 week then another buyer paid in full.

since buyer C already understand the situation and willing to give up, seller should have honored the price buyer B paid.

unless there are other situations like Seller cost price suddenly went up due to supplier increasing price, then seller has the right to ask for higher price to cover his additional cost, but asking higher price for higher margin, it's just unprofessional.

and the way the mod closed the thread seems like protecting seller to avoid further flaming, too bad couldn't stop folks from opening a dedicated thread.

but don't worry @extatine, you lose customers in /k, but you still have tons of customers on fb/twitter yada yada. lyn market so small you don't really lose anything.

just enjoy the rm200 extra you got, treat it as ang pow.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 27 2017, 12:24 AM)
It's his rights to get the better deal for himself.

At most just unethical if he already struck a deal with ts in the first place. I think he should just sell to the highest offer instead of asking the original buyer to top up which lead to the suspicion.
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let's assume what he say is true.

1.the buyer C really do exist and really paid higher money, he chose to tell memoling the truth that he has only 1 card left for 2 buyers. So we can see extatine is an honest person.

2.the fact that extatine wanted to give memoling the early buyer the priority shows he has seller's ethic.

3.but then again, he ask memoling to match buyer C's price. this shows greed.

really rare you see an honest, ethical but greedy person. i don't know what to say.
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QUOTE(LamTin @ Jun 26 2017, 08:03 PM)
Now momoling cannot report to polis already because you already refunded him/her. But if he refused to accept ur refund, momoling can make a polis report. This case is under komersial jenayah unit. I am not kidding to you brother. Luckily momoling is nice or perhaps he/she is still green or else you really in trouble.
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it's not illegal, just unethical. seller has the right to cancel order & provide full refunds, in most shops they have T&C to cover this, but if there is no written T&C between buyer & seller, i guess it comes down to self settlement between buyer & seller, if nothing is lost, i don't think police will open a case.

in some cases you may try to sue seller for lost of opportunity, for example buyer B bought & paid item from seller A, seller A cancels buyer B's order, buyer B lost the opportunity to get the item and as the item was available from few sellers during the time of purchase but is now unavailable in the market, as such, buyer B missed the chance to get the item, or end up having to pay more to buy the same item elsewhere compared to during the time when item was widely available. and if the item is crucial item in buyer B's source of income, buyer B may even sue seller A for lost of income. Whether buyer B wins the court case really depends case by case, and skill of lawyer, and mood of judge. The potential penalty for seller can be quite big. that is why big business always have T&C so buyer accept the risk of order cancellation.
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QUOTE(devokeon @ Jun 26 2017, 08:08 PM)
extatine is a good person teach me in business ,

next time i will selling one item in RM100 and take 2 buyers moeny.
then i tall to them know

“Item just have one , if u need please top up to RM150 to me” 

is the trick can earn more RM50..oh yeah.
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why u so silly so mafan need to make 2 deals, then cancel 1 deal and refund, also doesn't guarantee always got people willing to pay higher price.

so why not just tell buyer B "sorry there's only 1 unit left and both u & another buyer paid in full but buyer C paid $200 more & willing to let go, so if you want please top up rm50.

if hot item you can keep doing this to earn more.
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post Jun 27 2017, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:22 PM)
I know I can't win an argument here since there are many people here that hate on me but in terms of sales, I have always tried to do my dealings ethically. Frankly, it's just a misunderstanding.
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most comments are being honest, it's nothing to do with hating you, we aren't as unethical as you so we judge things based on how it is.

you aren't cheating, but you are unethical, and the way you ask memoling to top up, is like trying to scam the buyer more money on the product he already paid. why we say it's scamming, because it's not like your cost went up, but you raised the price because you saw the market price going up, after he paid.

if you lied and said your cost went up, so need to top up, it would actually look less like scam. or just lie to memoling about no stock and give full refund.

why tell the truth yet at the same time being greedy? i don't get you bro. unless you just wanna play with memoling, then you need help, from a doctor.
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post Jun 27 2017, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jun 27 2017, 12:55 AM)
so story is Memoling paid in full 1 week earlier than C, but now only has 1 unit for both of them, C willing to let go, but Seller wants Memoling to top up the difference.

Extatine is just plain greedy. It's not like his cost went up. He just wanted to make more money.

The agreement between Memoling & seller price is xxx, contract between buyer C is yyy, now because only 1 unit left, if Memoling wants, he have to pay for yyy. But now seller wants Memoling to pay yyy just because buyer C willing to pay yyy.

Like this, i can simply make up stories about buyer C, D & E then ask buyer B to pay more, just because "demand went up".
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No, no....the story is like this

He got total 3 unit.
Sell 1 unit to seller A end of May/ early Jun
Left 2 unit.
He want sell 1 unit to Memoling (cannot remember what price, just take it as RMX less RM140)
Then for some unknown reason (maybe I didn't read all), he did not ship out immediately, but Memoling is fine with it.
During this time, Buyer C come, want to buy another unit at RMX price (i.e. RM140 more what paid by Memoling), paid full price and Seller A claim the item he sell spoilt, want to exchange.
So, he give 1 unit to Buyer A, left 1 unit
Then, he contacted Memoling say since u paid first, I can ship to you if you pay me extra RM140, i.e. the price had increase jor due to higher demand, and Buyer C willing to pay higher price. Else, I refund u back

So, conclusion, extatine claim that this is business, seller got rights to change price as seller wish, even though buyer had agreed the price and paid in full. If don't agree, just refund the buyer, nothing unethical about.

But, I think this is unethical, and believe many also will agree with me. You decide if this is business or unethical?
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post Jun 27 2017, 01:47 AM

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Aroma's apperentice? Kantoied big time. Closed deal ask for top up again.kek
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post Jun 27 2017, 01:49 AM

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post Jun 27 2017, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Jun 27 2017, 12:16 AM)
WTF
Last time deal with him GTX1070
I know SG set so cheap
So i take risk.
Syukur not died yet
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how much was the 1070 then?
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post Jun 27 2017, 02:55 AM

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I still want to say what ive said.

K is breeding center for penipu scammer haha
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post Jun 27 2017, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 26 2017, 08:27 PM)
I have a sad seeing penipu scammer tarnishing godly card like GTX1060.
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godly card??? advocado can give u better pencerahan laugh.gif

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post Jun 27 2017, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jun 26 2017, 08:55 PM)
Your account stars so worthless compared to mine ler
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post Jun 27 2017, 03:32 AM

I said "Good Day!"
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Anyways boikot extratine!

Lipot his tered burn his account
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post Jun 27 2017, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Jun 27 2017, 12:41 AM)
So far i have okay deal with him.
Just how he address customer is wrong way, he need recitify this issue.
Another one is how he chat with you not so smooth writing, what i mean is he didnt say nice only la..
He will tell you what you buy from him and condition for dealing with him.
So far he honest seller but poor how to address customer.
Many people learn from mistake , so i just be positive as his customer. I'm myself not perfect so i never expect anythings.
He will learn from this mistake im sure. I know the risk buy from him for warranty purpose.
But he sell so cheap for Zotac 1070 AMP lol
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Until now he still dont see that wrong part ...... Keep explain n twist ...

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