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Penipu scammer.
 
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post Jun 26 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:27 PM)
Yes.

By exit clause I mean any contract has terms when there is a breach of contract. I believe the practice in Lyn is to refund in full. Which I did immediately after notifying Memoling

Yes I don't deny I chose the one who paid more. But I am choosing between two people who paid in full.as for Memoling being earlier, I was prepared to discount rm50 as a gesture.
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but, in first place, how do you explain why it took you so long to post the item to momoling? If you post it immediately or 1 day after momoling paid u, then, you got no issue with buyer C. Even if with Buyer A come back claim RMA, then, you can politely tell him that you have no stock, either refund him back or send back to factory....

Very clear cut case, you have 2 units, but try to sell it to 3 seller, to whoever willing to pay higher price. That's the issue. If this not unethical, what do you call it? I stupid, engrand no good
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post Jun 26 2017, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:33 PM)
I sold to Memoling with the understanding it was not ready stock. That's why it took so long to post.

Yes on hindsight I should have refunded but he was quite insistent on swap. I gave in, to my mistake.

Factory return is for sales after 30 days.
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Your "mistake" is that you selling it whoever willing to pay for highest price whistling.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 26 2017, 07:44 PM)
Lul 12 pages..brb getting popcorn
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proof that many /k takde nothing to do during raya time laugh.gif including yours truly
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 07:49 PM)
So I should sell for free? Since making a profit is crime.
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Making profit is not crime, but, requesting buyer to pay above what been previously agreed is unethical
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:03 PM)
I asked him that as a gesture because I had two buyers who paid in full and I could only fulfill one of them. I would have sold to him if he was willing to pay 1150 since he banked in slightly earlier.
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Should not even need to ask, brainless to ask, should sell to whoever who paid first, and refund back the one who pay later. What is the objective of you asking momoling to pay higher? Unless u tell me when u agreed the price, you sell with zero profit or lost. Then, you can claim your stupidity for the deal, but, still need to honour the deal.

What if you go market buy fish, agreed with seller RM50. Then, due to limited supply, the seller said, if you still want it, it now RM70 coz another buyer willing to pay RM70. What you call the fish seller? Unethical seller, not "misunderstood" seller biggrin.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(devokeon @ Jun 26 2017, 08:08 PM)
extatine is a good person teach me in business ,

next time i will selling one item in RM100 and take 2 buyers moeny.
then i tall to them know

“Item just have one , if u need please top up to RM150 to me” 

is the trick can earn more RM50..oh yeah.
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make sure u collect money first tau laugh.gif if COD, later both buyer also duwan, u end up item nobody want laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Zihh1124 @ Jun 26 2017, 08:11 PM)
But then ur trustworthy will be 0, and ur ex customers will not buy from u again. It is worth it?
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Depends how much your reputation worth... biggrin.gif RM140 or RM140k or RM140 million
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:14 PM)
Your fish seller analogy is not accurate as both buyer paid already. I had to choose one.

Let me put another analogy. Want to buy house. Agent take both deposit for two houses that haven't complete transaction yet. One house burnt down. Left one . Who would the agent sell the balance unit to? The higher buyer right?
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Of course to the one who paid the deposits first lah....like then, why stop collect from 2 buyers only? Why not collect from 200 buyers, ask who can give me the highest price, the house is theirs biggrin.gif...else, what's the point of paying deposits? For fun ah?

This post has been edited by 2feidei: Jun 26 2017, 08:18 PM
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jun 26 2017, 08:19 PM)
You just saying that to put the blame on me. In real life 100% would go to the highest bidder. I'm referring to the case where two people have paid. Not one paid and asking for higher bidder.
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first of all, u must understand and know how to differentiate between selling and bidding.

With my bohtakchek aka no skool and limited engrand, selling is you sell to the buyer who paid u first. Siapa cepat dia dapat. First come first serve. Bidding is when you put it a floor price, whoever willing to offer u highest price got it.

So, are you telling me your thread is bidding not selling?

Nah...I left your selling link to here don't delete or amend yeah biggrin.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(LamTin @ Jun 26 2017, 08:32 PM)
Dont angry memoling.  sad.gif happy holiday..
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are u oso one of the penipu scammer kena tangkap by polis trying to blackmail the missing pastor family? hmm.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Jun 26 2017, 08:36 PM)
hahaha... reputation spoilt by greed... <RM200..i rather burn it than burn ur forum stars
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wah....forum star so valuable. Ok, opening [WTS] thread first, sell my account. To the highest bidder laugh.gif

QUOTE(LamTin @ Jun 26 2017, 08:37 PM)
yuen wang. Time will tell ...be patience.
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Really? When will be next court hearing? whistling.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(kehadapan @ Jun 26 2017, 08:49 PM)
ini greedy bastard namanya

buyer also sudah bising lol
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wrong, according to seller, ini panggil business laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2017, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jun 26 2017, 08:55 PM)
Your account stars so worthless compared to mine ler
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Must spam more then laugh.gif
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post Jun 27 2017, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jun 27 2017, 12:55 AM)
so story is Memoling paid in full 1 week earlier than C, but now only has 1 unit for both of them, C willing to let go, but Seller wants Memoling to top up the difference.

Extatine is just plain greedy. It's not like his cost went up. He just wanted to make more money.

The agreement between Memoling & seller price is xxx, contract between buyer C is yyy, now because only 1 unit left, if Memoling wants, he have to pay for yyy. But now seller wants Memoling to pay yyy just because buyer C willing to pay yyy.

Like this, i can simply make up stories about buyer C, D & E then ask buyer B to pay more, just because "demand went up".
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No, no....the story is like this

He got total 3 unit.
Sell 1 unit to seller A end of May/ early Jun
Left 2 unit.
He want sell 1 unit to Memoling (cannot remember what price, just take it as RMX less RM140)
Then for some unknown reason (maybe I didn't read all), he did not ship out immediately, but Memoling is fine with it.
During this time, Buyer C come, want to buy another unit at RMX price (i.e. RM140 more what paid by Memoling), paid full price and Seller A claim the item he sell spoilt, want to exchange.
So, he give 1 unit to Buyer A, left 1 unit
Then, he contacted Memoling say since u paid first, I can ship to you if you pay me extra RM140, i.e. the price had increase jor due to higher demand, and Buyer C willing to pay higher price. Else, I refund u back

So, conclusion, extatine claim that this is business, seller got rights to change price as seller wish, even though buyer had agreed the price and paid in full. If don't agree, just refund the buyer, nothing unethical about.

But, I think this is unethical, and believe many also will agree with me. You decide if this is business or unethical?

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