1 good thing about this stiff competition is, "we will get super cheap multicore cpu  ". if not because of Core, we wouldnt get AMD3600 X2 at RM265 (and it's going to get cheaper next month ).

thus the 478/479 is for Mobile only?

I'm not very EE either, but the Conroe used LGA775, and Penryn will have the same power envelope and higher FSB so a reduction in pin count would be quite strange to me.
That sounds more like it. And it does sound likely that Nehalem would easily have >1000 pins, looking at current AMD solutions. Unless CSI is a really, really high clocked serial bus, lol.

not just that, amd just introduce 65nm architecture but intel prepare 45nm and incoming year 32nm, new architecture, more core, higher FSB, more cache, build-in memory controller...

amd will "bungkus" lio...

Also as an aside, i just realized that the high-k + metal gate tech solves a lot of problems with using germanium channel transistors, which will probably replace silicon in the not so near future since it's a lot faster. So this new gate tech seems to be a much better long term improvement than most people realize so far.

Fabs today are a LOT cleaner than yesterday, so i don't see why tomorrow's fabs can't be cleaner than today.

Dont forget the failure of Intel's 90nm

wah.. not bad.. when i see some ppls replies .. they are talking as if amd goin to die ... if amd die ... it will be almost impossible to buy a graphic card / processor / motherboard in future .. nvidia and intel gonna conquer .. coz the price will be jacked sky high.. i'm seeing intel fanboys getting soo excited lol .. but they dont even notice what will happen if amd die.. hehe well ..  didn't really bother about them. .i still support the smaller company ..  coz their low and mid end still worth for money you pay about K8L .. its not K8L .. it is K10 .. weather it is failure or not .. it will seat on current amd AM2/new AM2+ socket..  amd even thinking of released a 8 core processor on a single socket.. those new intel chips..  you gonna require new motherboard.. maybe new ram .. so on...  so every time intel release now processor you need new mobo ? hehe this is cool ... for some ppl it doesn't matter .. coz they keep on changing their mobo and so on... but not good for normal consumer .. so i think amd should really focus on low and and mid end instead of high end.. coz high end stuff is not really that important ... right now ... amd stil can survive with their current line of product.. nothing wrong with it ... whether 65nm or 45 nm ... comparing to 90nm amd proc and 65nm c2d ... the power usage is almost the same..   just that i notice .. intel is just copying amd all the way ... with the integrated graphic chip on the processor and integrated memory controller ... the most cekap part is .. AMD64 / X86-64 .. which created by amd.. intel applied their own processor with EM64T which is same technology by amd ..hmmm so nowdays i'm seeing .. AMD is getting more creative than intel .. just intel is trying to kill amd with their capacity advantage ..  they have tons of money and can create new technology easily .. even 32nm .. so we'll wait and see whether amd gonna die or not