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TSikanayam
post Mar 29 2007, 06:47 AM, updated 19y ago

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A few more details...

http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/12127
http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/12130
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel...doc.aspx?i=2955
http://realworldtech.com/page.cfm?NewsID=3...=03-28-2007#369

Looks like K8L will have quite a bit of competition.

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post Mar 29 2007, 07:04 AM

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going to post the same topic, but u were faster biggrin.gif .

anyway, the 1st thing came into my mind when i saw the details of nahelem, OMG, wtf..., what will AMD do? even if K10(previously known as K8L) did surpass C2D as AMD claimed, it wont last long(a year?), Penryn may or may not perform better than K10, but we can assure that Nahelem will gv AMD a serious headache. look at this.this will gv a better picture.

*Intel seems to introduce new architecture every 2 years, hmm.....while AMD release their new architecture in 3-4 years.
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post Mar 29 2007, 07:15 AM

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AMD also releases more incremental architectural mini updates than intel however.
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post Mar 29 2007, 07:25 AM

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1 good thing about this stiff competition is, "we will get super cheap multicore cpu doh.gif ". if not because of Core, we wouldnt get AMD3600 X2 at RM265 (and it's going to get cheaper next month thumbup.gif ).

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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Mar 29 2007, 07:25 AM)
1 good thing about this stiff competition is, "we will get super cheap multicore cpu  doh.gif ". if not because of Core, we wouldnt get AMD3600 X2 at RM265 (and it's going to get cheaper next month thumbup.gif ).
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Cheap but ultra-thin margins won't keep any company in business for long.
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post Mar 29 2007, 11:00 AM

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But if K10 can't compete, AMD will die then no more competition. Prices will go sky high again.
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post Mar 29 2007, 02:28 PM

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Nehalem will no longer use a FSB but a serial point to point interconnect. Even more revolutionary is the fact that Nehalem will have an integrated memory controller (IMC) and that the number of serial interconnects is variable (Intel's version of "HyperTransport"). Another potentially groundbreaking move is that some Nehalem CPUs will have a GPU integrated (Intel's version of "Fusion"). With an integrated memory controller, new interconnect, and potentially integrated graphics, Nehalem will obviously require a new socket.
This is cool,new core will be having integrated memory controller. This means the new mobos will not be having the northbirdge controller in the mobo already like AMD one ?
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post Mar 29 2007, 04:21 PM

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Why intel want to turn into FSB1600 so fast? The FSB1333 processor not release to the market yet!
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post Mar 29 2007, 05:16 PM

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1600FSB, SSE4, low power consume, high performance, it great or intel, proud being intel user... hehe
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post Mar 29 2007, 06:20 PM

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This is what we called "Technology grows".1600FSB providing higher bandwidth than 1333FSB,that means more instructions can be send at the same time.
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post Mar 29 2007, 08:09 PM

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what bout the price???for sure it will be pricey...
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post Mar 29 2007, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(apis @ Mar 29 2007, 08:09 PM)
what bout the price???for sure it will be pricey...
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New hw when 1st start to come out of course sure pricey la.Just take a look at 76GT's nowadays.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Mar 29 2007, 07:47 AM)
Big competition in fact. *Rumours* said, 10% - 40% performance advantage over K8L. brows.gif
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post Mar 30 2007, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 29 2007, 02:28 PM)
This is cool,new core will be having integrated memory controller. This means the new mobos will not be having the northbirdge controller in the mobo already like AMD one ?
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northbirdge or southbridge memory controller sweat.gif

& have u look at AMD's chipset blink.gif even though their processor already embedded the memory controller, but their own chipset still got north & south bridge hmm.gif wonder why?? unsure.gif
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post Mar 30 2007, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Mar 30 2007, 08:32 AM)
northbirdge or southbridge memory controller sweat.gif

& have u look at AMD's chipset blink.gif even though their processor already embedded the memory controller, but their own chipset still got north & south bridge hmm.gif wonder why?? unsure.gif
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doh.gif which generation of AMD processor u mean?
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post Mar 30 2007, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Mar 29 2007, 07:32 PM)
northbirdge or southbridge memory controller sweat.gif

& have u look at AMD's chipset blink.gif even though their processor already embedded the memory controller, but their own chipset still got north & south bridge hmm.gif wonder why?? unsure.gif
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The nb didn't just have the memory controller. Most high bandwidth I/O like the AGP/PCI/PCI-E interface are handled by the nb.
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post Mar 30 2007, 02:11 PM

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Btw, the Penryn is a LGA479, and Nehalem is a LGA950
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post Mar 30 2007, 02:22 PM

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LGA 479? So that mean it smaller than the current LGA775?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 30 2007, 02:22 PM)
LGA 479? So that mean it smaller than the current LGA775?
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post Mar 30 2007, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Mar 30 2007, 01:11 AM)
Btw, the Penryn is a LGA479, and Nehalem is a LGA950
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hm... less pins? Sounds a little weird to me. 479 sounds very familiar, maybe that is the mobile version?

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