wah.. not bad.. when i see some ppls replies .. they are talking as if amd goin to die ... if amd die ... it will be almost impossible to buy a graphic card / processor / motherboard in future .. nvidia and intel gonna conquer .. coz the price will be jacked sky high.. i'm seeing intel fanboys getting soo excited lol .. but they dont even notice what will happen if amd die.. hehe well .. didn't really bother about them. .i still support the smaller company .. coz their low and mid end still worth for money you pay about K8L .. its not K8L .. it is K10 .. weather it is failure or not .. it will seat on current amd AM2/new AM2+ socket.. amd even thinking of released a 8 core processor on a single socket.. those new intel chips.. you gonna require new motherboard.. maybe new ram .. so on... so every time intel release now processor you need new mobo ? hehe this is cool ... for some ppl it doesn't matter .. coz they keep on changing their mobo and so on... but not good for normal consumer .. so i think amd should really focus on low and and mid end instead of high end.. coz high end stuff is not really that important ... right now ... amd stil can survive with their current line of product.. nothing wrong with it ... whether 65nm or 45 nm ... comparing to 90nm amd proc and 65nm c2d ... the power usage is almost the same.. just that i notice .. intel is just copying amd all the way ... with the integrated graphic chip on the processor and integrated memory controller ... the most cekap part is .. AMD64 / X86-64 .. which created by amd.. intel applied their own processor with EM64T which is same technology by amd ..hmmm so nowdays i'm seeing .. AMD is getting more creative than intel .. just intel is trying to kill amd with their capacity advantage .. they have tons of money and can create new technology easily .. even 32nm .. so we'll wait and see whether amd gonna die or not

This post has been edited by Creative: Apr 4 2007, 05:51 PM

cks2k2, AMD already released the integrated memory controller which is exist in market and you are talking about product which isn't released at all and non of the consumer even seen it in action so no point there for you to argue about it. Then about x86 back then, AMD been making processor for intel and they have agreement to share their technology each other so nothing wrong with the x86 at that time, but now in return amd created x86-64 and intel is sharing it. Both companies are sharing the instructions sets such as SSE and so on. What i am trying to explain is intel just getting lazy and amd getting more creative these days. Maybe you dont get the point. but then i dont come here to argue or anything, just trying to explain where some ppl dont really realize about whats happening but they just throw their words just like that. How many geeks buying high end pc where a cpu company could make enough money out of high end stuff? just go and check the statistics yourself where majority of consumers goes for low or mid most of the times. Not everyone are gamer, the high end does produce high margin but then it is very rare. Now i'm out of this forum, you all can argue all you want:) tata