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TSidunnolol
post Jun 24 2017, 03:18 PM, updated 9y ago

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Hi

My Terrace house share the same exterior wall with a neighbor , But because we are not on the same level ground,Her house is taller than my house so 1 side of my wall is taller than my other shared wall

I was thinking of raising the wall and seal off the gap to make my house look nicer

But i cant find whats the maximum allowable limit for a wall,need some sifu help regarding this

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post Jun 24 2017, 03:44 PM

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if u go for proper way, your architect should advice u

if easy way, just get contractor to do what you feel nice
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post Jun 24 2017, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 24 2017, 03:18 PM)
Hi

My Terrace house share the same exterior wall with a neighbor , But because we are not on the same level ground,Her house is taller than my house

I was thinking of raising the wall and seal off the gap to make my house look nicer

But i cant find whats the maximum allowable limit for a wall,need some sifu help regarding this
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Does it look nice?

Block some view. And prison.
TSidunnolol
post Jun 24 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Jun 24 2017, 03:44 PM)
if u go for proper way, your architect should advice u

if easy way, just get contractor to do what you feel nice
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minor renovation like this need architect?

I just need to know the max height allowed
TSidunnolol
post Jun 24 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 24 2017, 03:55 PM)
Does it look nice?

Block some view. And prison.
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No

The gap in between the walls height make it a mini waterfall during rain
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post Jun 25 2017, 02:48 AM

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Well, I guess nowadays some people facing this issue especially on new development. Get a contractor for advice will be my preference..Interest to hear other's ideas
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post Jun 25 2017, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 24 2017, 04:07 PM)
No

The gap in between the walls height make it a mini waterfall during rain
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Suggest you raise your wall to the same height as your neighbour. If you raise it higher than your neighbor and your neighbor will have the mini waterfall and they may raise it higher in the future.
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post Jun 25 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 24 2017, 04:07 PM)
No

The gap in between the walls height make it a mini waterfall during rain
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You're raising the height of the wall or solve the mini waterfall issue?

Your house don't have the outdoors side longkang?

1 thing bad about raising height of the side wall is block the wind. Later your house have bad wind flow.
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post Jun 25 2017, 02:54 PM

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Hmm don't think there's height limit...
Just built as u like.. But make sure don't fully block view..
For mine, around 5ft like that blush.gif I mean until my neck height.. Still can see neighbour tongue.gif

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post Jun 25 2017, 02:57 PM

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There are height limit, and also need to have openings. Cant recall the details. You need to go to your location town council to find out. Each town council will have different rules.
TSidunnolol
post Jun 25 2017, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 25 2017, 10:55 AM)
You're raising the height of the wall or solve the mini waterfall issue?

Your house don't have the outdoors side longkang?

1 thing bad about raising height of the side wall is block the wind. Later your house have bad wind flow.
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got but not nice la when her house is flooded then my wall become mini waterfall because the max height of my wall is the same as where her floor level start

I am thinking of sealing the entire gap until its about 2.1 meter high
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post Jun 26 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 25 2017, 02:57 PM)
There are height limit, and also need to have openings. Cant recall the details.  You need to go to your location town council to find out. Each town council will have different rules.
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The height of the exterior common wall between link houses is not so much of an issue with the local town council. In other words, the town council will likely not bother or care since it's a minor issue. There are more serious cases such as extension of the kitchen either single-storey or double storey, or extension of a 2-storey house to 3-storey which most may not even have proper application with the local town council. The shared common wall is not a load bearing structure so the significance is much lesser with regards to obtaining permits from the town council.

What i think is more important is the neighbour next door who is sharing the common wall. If one wants to modify the common wall, usually to change a half-wall c/w grille to a full-height brick wall, or just like the case of the OP here that is to increase the height of the wall, a common understanding or mutual agreement with the neighbour will be necessary, that is to get consent from the neighbour to have the wall modified. The wall is shared between two units so it can get tricky if the neighbour does not want to have the wall modified. In most cases it is usually down to the cost as the neighbour may not want to share the construction cost.

To the OP - if you increase the height of the wall on one side to match the height of the other wall, your next-door neighbour will then have the same issue of having two different walls with different height. In other words, you resolve your problem of the different height of your wall after you increase the height of the wall, but you will introduce the problem to your neighbour after you have increased the height of the wall. Your neighbour will then have two walls that are different in height. Are you sure your neighbour will allow you to increase the height of the common wall?
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post Jun 26 2017, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jun 26 2017, 10:29 AM)
The height of the exterior common wall between link houses is not so much of an issue with the local town council. In other words, the town council will likely not bother or care since it's a minor issue. There are more serious cases such as extension of the kitchen either single-storey or double storey, or extension of a 2-storey house to 3-storey which most may not even have proper application with the local town council. The shared common wall is not a load bearing structure so the significance is much lesser with regards to obtaining permits from the town council.

What i think is more important is the neighbour next door who is sharing the common wall. If one wants to modify the common wall, usually to change a half-wall c/w grille to a full-height brick wall, or just like the case of the OP here that is to increase the height of the wall, a common understanding or mutual agreement with the neighbour will be necessary, that is to get consent from the neighbour to have the wall modified. The wall is shared between two units so it can get tricky if the neighbour does not want to have the wall modified. In most cases it is usually down to the cost as the neighbour may not want to share the construction cost.

To the OP - if you increase the height of the wall on one side to match the height of the other wall, your next-door neighbour will then have the same issue of having two different walls with different height. In other words, you resolve your problem of the different height of your wall after you increase the height of the wall, but you will introduce the problem to your neighbour after you have increased the height of the wall. Your neighbour will then have two walls that are different in height. Are you sure your neighbour will allow you to increase the height of the common wall?
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My next door neighbour cant be seen at all since they renovated 1/2 of the wall to the maximum height and the other to be about 1.8 meter
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post Jun 26 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jun 26 2017, 10:29 AM)
The height of the exterior common wall between link houses is not so much of an issue with the local town council. In other words, the town council will likely not bother or care since it's a minor issue. There are more serious cases such as extension of the kitchen either single-storey or double storey, or extension of a 2-storey house to 3-storey which most may not even have proper application with the local town council. The shared common wall is not a load bearing structure so the significance is much lesser with regards to obtaining permits from the town council.

What i think is more important is the neighbour next door who is sharing the common wall. If one wants to modify the common wall, usually to change a half-wall c/w grille to a full-height brick wall, or just like the case of the OP here that is to increase the height of the wall, a common understanding or mutual agreement with the neighbour will be necessary, that is to get consent from the neighbour to have the wall modified. The wall is shared between two units so it can get tricky if the neighbour does not want to have the wall modified. In most cases it is usually down to the cost as the neighbour may not want to share the construction cost.

To the OP - if you increase the height of the wall on one side to match the height of the other wall, your next-door neighbour will then have the same issue of having two different walls with different height. In other words, you resolve your problem of the different height of your wall after you increase the height of the wall, but you will introduce the problem to your neighbour after you have increased the height of the wall. Your neighbour will then have two walls that are different in height. Are you sure your neighbour will allow you to increase the height of the common wall?
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Can't be bother doesnt mean will not be enforced. Once any neighbor complain the house owner will have to demolish it. I know because my friend had such neighbor.

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post Jun 26 2017, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 26 2017, 02:48 PM)
Can't be bother doesnt mean will not be enforced. Once any neighbor complain the house owner will have to demolish it. I know because my friend had such neighbor.
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Its how things are run here in malaysia lol
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post Jun 27 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 26 2017, 02:48 PM)

Can't be bother doesnt mean will not be enforced. Once any neighbor complain the house owner will have to demolish it. I know because my friend had such neighbor.
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Enforcement is a different story. What I am saying is most people perhaps > 90% wouldn't care with the standard of the exterior common wall with regards to the regulations with the local council as it's one of the most trivial of all renovations. The more important aspect of the exterior common wall is condition of the existing ground to take the additional loads so that the wall would not settle with the ground or crack in future.

One would only encounter problems if there are complaints. It is only with complaints that investigations will take place. That is the reason I mentioned earlier that one would have to tackle the problem with the neighbour first if he has intentions to modify the common exterior wall. Apart from construction cost which the neighbour might not want to share, if you introduce a problem to your neighbour with the modification of the wall, there is high possibility the neighbour would not agree with the plan. That would lead to a soured relationship and problems such as what your friend had encountered. If one does not have any problem with the neighbour with regards to the modification of the common wall, I would say that 99% of modified common exterior walls will not have issues with the local town council.


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post Jun 27 2017, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 26 2017, 01:20 PM)
My next door neighbour cant be seen at all since they renovated 1/2 of the wall to the maximum height and the other to be about 1.8 meter
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That's not the main issue. The important thing is you have discussed with your neighbour on your plans of modifying the common exterior wall and they do no have issues with it. Or you are planning to modify the common wall without informing your neighbour, assuming they are fine with it?
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post Jun 27 2017, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jun 27 2017, 09:51 AM)
That's not the main issue. The important thing is you have discussed with your neighbour on your plans of modifying the common exterior wall and they do no have issues with it. Or you are planning to modify the common wall without informing your neighbour, assuming they are fine with it?
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she have already renovated once without asking me but her half piss shit renovation made the wall not high and not low. I also dont want to see her face so i am going to make it the same height as her postal column

 

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