today i open a thread to ask for help regarding my pc...but the moderator =sempurna ..closed my thread wif the reason as in the picture below....is this y LYF created a techincal suport sub-forum ..so that the thread of ppl like me get deleted ....

pls see the picture that was included by me..


edit : my thread http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=432821

This post has been edited by expantyhoesthief: Mar 27 2007, 07:31 PM

Like what I said in your thread, I do not support the fact that we should help criminals fix the tools of their choice.

As long as I have the power to do so, I will continue to prevent such help from reaching criminals.

As you are a self-confessed malware writer, I certainly will not advocate anyone helping you to fix your systems so that you can write more malware to infect others. That would be like helping a child rapist and killer to sharpen their knives and parangs.

You should remember what you have done before.
Modifying the virus and sending to other is a crime, so the support won't be provided for a criminal.

( Same as giving the knife to the criminal and call him to kill us )

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/427846

I hardly see that Sempurna is behaving rudely to you. It's more like, he's closing your thread for an appropriate reason and you are ranting here.

Wow, this is a first lol..
Now he may be a self confessed malware writer, but have he really written a malware and distribute it to the general public and cause damage?
It may be his hobby and he likes challenge himself looking for loopholes in softwares..
IMHO, if he hasnt cause any damage, he has not commit a crime..

Now if i know how to kill, and i practice my parangs on trees and it got blunt, why cant u help me sharpen my knife?

So.. u are saying that we should act after a person is killed is it? even when u got wind that someone is plotting murder all along..

sorry kid, this is the real life.. in America they arrrest some teenagers for plotting murder in school, before the real thing even happen

Knowing how to kill and plotting to kill are two different things la..
Did he plot to spread the virus to the general public?
I dun think so..
And he offered to help clean the virus if anyone got infected by it, i dun think real virus writer with malicious intention will do that..
And dun call me kid unless u are an 80 year old man..

This post has been edited by GunMetalX: Mar 27 2007, 08:32 PM

The malware writer has already confessed to passing on the virus to others. Need I say more?

Shouldnt you be asking whether we should be reporting him to the police? Even by our weak cyber laws, he has committed a crime.

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Added on March 27, 2007, 8:34 pmYes, he did plot to do it. Just read his post.

And, does that mean if a rapist offers to counsel his victims, we forgive him? What kind of logic is that?

This post has been edited by Sempurna: Mar 27 2007, 08:34 PM

The point is what's done is done. No two ways about it. Don't tell me it's ok for you to shoot someone and then offer to pay their medical bills? What sort of ethic's rational is that?

There is no rapist and there is no victim lar..
The person who caught the virus was his fren using his pc, did he purposely pass it around? i dun think so..

i have no inkling to our weak cyber laws, kindly quote it pls..

I'm curious as to why you are so fervently standing up for him. If you were infected by the malware or virus that he propagated, would you still be defending him? Don't be so quick to jump to his defence. THINK about WHY you are defending him.

This post has been edited by altie: Mar 27 2007, 08:58 PM

The intent itself already exists. That by itself is tantamount to premeditating to commit a crime.

I'm a very savvy pc user, and i have a very reliable antivirus software, so i doubt i'll be infected by any malware or virus, especially from an amateur virus writer..

I guess i'm just sometimes irritated by some people who has the power and uses them like nobody's business.. A forum is a place for people to seek knowledge and opinions of other people.. U dont just go around barring people from doing it just bcoz he did some bad stuff before or he may use that knowledge to do bad stuff.. bcoz afaik, that knowledge may be seek by other people too. U dun go cut the flow just like that.

Wat i think is as long as he dun ask how to write a virus or how to propagate it then it's fine and he should not be taken any action..

Anyway even if he may have broke any cyber law, he is innocent until proven guilty.. We cant just take law into our own hands..

That story was the most amazing story I've ever heard in response to a help thread.
Salutations!

So did Sempurna break any laws by exercising sound judgment? I don't recall our weak cyber laws mentioning anything about forums not having the leisure to refuse service, and in this instance with good reason.

LOL, nexus i salute u, yr reply is soundproof, flameproof and bulletproof, and it holds a lot of water..

Wat i'm trying to say is mods should be more flexible and compassionate and not go everything by the book.. The guy is asking for help, i mean help to something perfectly legal, so just help him la.. Enough said..

As much as we allow for debate and discussion on forum policy, this is too much. In this forum, you are liable for your actions. The only reason his account is not suspended is because there was no complaints about his "virus". Make no mistake, this particular user has already had at least one account permanently suspended before this incident.

no such thing as a reliable antivirus software and even the most savy pc users do get infected by malware and worms (if not viruses). amateur virus writer? please don't inflate his already small ego. i doubt he's even that. just some script kiddy. which self-proclaimed virus writer would not know the basics of troubleshooting his own pc?

oh. he is very welcome on the board, just not in tech support subforum i suppose.

try spending your days as a tech support mod helping others clean-up their infected pc's over-and-over again and see if you have an affinity for script kiddies...

how about a confession?



taken form the original thread....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0?entry10777181

i think the decision to close his thread is just enough, it will be a disgrace if we intentionally help a criminal in his bid to hack ppl ...

Now u are talking!!!
Thanks for the facts, i rest my case..