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Andy0625
post Mar 26 2007, 10:42 PM, updated 19y ago

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It goes like this , yesterday I pm him about the condition of the phone and etc. So we discuss by PM , MSN and SMS about the condition of the handphone, and it seems there's nothing wrong and everything was well WHICH i accept the quick grab price of him at Rm1100 which i said that i will pay based on the condition.
So , during night (around 10.15 ) he sms me and that there's one buyer willing to COD tonight for Rm1110.
So i let him know that i'm the one who quick grab at the price of 1.1k , so what's the fuss ? shocking.gif
He tell me that you still making price based on the condition of it . I mean if the CONDITION is like what we discuss before (prestine) so what's wrong with my statement ? doh.gif


I'm so pissed off by this kind of seller , if you want to proceed any deal with him , TRIPLE confirm everything.
Double confirm is not enough for him or might He'll Never Statisfy with what he gets.


*A warm reminder , if you're going to deal with him THINK twice !

P/s : Oh yea , i do sms him about whether i should Overbid it in lelong or not since we already make a time to COD at Sunway Pyramid (his location) and he reply me no need and His friend will do so.
*What kind of attitude is this ?!

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post Mar 26 2007, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Mar 26 2007, 10:42 PM)
Complaning agaisnt :  Nimzai (link)
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It goes like this , yesterday I pm him about the condition of the phone and etc. So we discuss by PM , MSN and SMS about the condition of the handphone, and it seems there's nothing wrong and everything was well WHICH i accept the quick grab price of him at Rm1100 which i said that i will pay based on the condition.
So , during night (around 10.15 ) he sms me and that there's one buyer willing to COD tonight for Rm1110.
So i let him know that i'm the one who quick grab at the price of 1.1k , so what's the fuss ? shocking.gif
He tell me that you still making price based on the condition of it . I mean if the CONDITION is like what we discuss before (prestine) so what's wrong with my statement ?  doh.gif
I'm so pissed off by this kind of seller , if you want to proceed any deal with him , TRIPLE confirm everything.
Double confirm is not enough for him or might He'll Never Statisfy with what he gets.
*A warm reminder , if you're going to deal with him THINK twice !

P/s : Oh yea , i do sms him about whether i should Overbid it in lelong or not since we already make a time to COD at Sunway Pyramid (his location) and he reply me no need and His friend will do so.
*What kind of attitude is this ?!
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i saw his thread before but i didnt get what are u trying to say bro,do u mean he cancell da deal or what?

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post Mar 26 2007, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(kunyit_kampung @ Mar 26 2007, 11:00 PM)
i saw his thread before but i didnt get what are u trying to say bro,do u mean he cancell da deal or what?
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Yes , he cancel it due to There's HIGHER offer .
I'm so impressed.
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post Mar 26 2007, 11:29 PM

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not a responsible seller. if there is higher bid after a deal. it should be called off.. a deal is a deal..
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post Mar 26 2007, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(hafiz267@yahoo.com @ Mar 26 2007, 11:29 PM)
not a responsible seller. if there is higher bid after a deal. it should be called off.. a deal is a deal..
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That is what in my mind.
But seems that it's different terms to the seller.

I'm so fed up !
I mean , i purposely make my shedule to go there and my shedule is on .
BTW i'm from Ipoh . doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 11:44 PM

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btw, this is dispute corner.. will wait for seller response and explaination rite?
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post Mar 27 2007, 12:16 AM

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1st of all.. i told u im still waiting for highest offer since ur offer is only rm1060 at dat time .. and u say u might not be paying rm1.1k for it .. u nid to judge the condition .. i told u my hp is in superb condition .. nothing for u to worry .. but u still dont trust me and did not confirm dat rm1.1k

And i dont see any problem selling it to another person due to higher offer .. tis is a business dude.. business is to earn money.. since u have no confident on me..and i feel so insecure coz u might just say da condition is bad even if its good and gave me a lousy offer ..

but i must say.. im really sorry to ruin ur schedule..

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post Mar 27 2007, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Nimzai @ Mar 27 2007, 12:16 AM)
1st of all.. i told u im still waiting for highest offer since ur offer is only rm1060 at dat time .. and u say u might not be paying rm1.1k for it .. u nid to judge the condition .. i told u my hp is in superb condition .. nothing for u to worry .. but u still dont trust me and did not confirm dat rm1.1k

And i dont see any problem selling it to another person due to higher offer .. tis is a business dude.. business is to earn money.. since u have no confident on me..and i feel so insecure coz u might just say da condition is bad even if its good and gave me a lousy offer ..

but i must say.. im really sorry to ruin ur schedule..
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If there's nothing wrong about the condition and etc , what's wrong about the statement i made above ?
As i' had done many deals on Lowyat.net , i'm pretty sure many of guys aware i'm reliable and trustable.
So what's the fuss ?

And i'm the one who feel unsecure of your replies by SMS , it's like doesn't even interested into selling.

Who doesn't know Bussiness is to earn money by the way ?
My shedule still stays on , i'm stucking for phone to use. !
Urgh. doh.gif
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post Mar 27 2007, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(Nimzai @ Mar 27 2007, 12:16 AM)
1st of all.. i told u im still waiting for highest offer since ur offer is only rm1060 at dat time .. and u say u might not be paying rm1.1k for it .. u nid to judge the condition .. i told u my hp is in superb condition .. nothing for u to worry .. but u still dont trust me and did not confirm dat rm1.1k

And i dont see any problem selling it to another person due to higher offer .. tis is a business dude.. business is to earn money.. since u have no confident on me..and i feel so insecure coz u might just say da condition is bad even if its good and gave me a lousy offer ..

but i must say.. im really sorry to ruin ur schedule..
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i think he actually said he will quick grab it at 1,1k if everything as stated is correct. and he did confirm the deal

lolz... its nothing wrong to sell it to another person due to higher offer but you already accept the quick grab for it. So as a good businessman(if you are), you should keep for him.
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post Mar 27 2007, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(tjwong @ Mar 27 2007, 01:38 AM)
i think he actually said he will quick grab it at 1,1k if everything as stated is correct. and he did confirm the deal

lolz... its nothing wrong to sell it to another person due to higher offer but you already accept the quick grab for it. So as a good businessman(if you are), you should keep for him.
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Nevermind for now anymore , i'm off for the deal.
Don't wanna end up like others which later goes into ignorant. wink.gif
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post Mar 27 2007, 02:26 AM

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no offense but Nimzai, u just ruined ur sales after what u have done. shakehead.gif
After andy quick-grabbed it, i dun see why u still want to find a higher offer.


and i dun see anything wrong with andy want to see the phone first.
its not that he didnt trust u, but he has a right to see it first. after all he still will be buying it. doh.gif

sigh..

anyway i feel sorry for ya bro andy.
looks like u got no luck.
maybe after this case, u will find a better K800i with a better deal.

gud luck wink.gif
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post Mar 27 2007, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Nimzai @ Mar 27 2007, 12:16 AM)
1st of all.. i told u im still waiting for highest offer since ur offer is only rm1060 at dat time .. and u say u might not be paying rm1.1k for it .. u nid to judge the condition .. i told u my hp is in superb condition .. nothing for u to worry .. but u still dont trust me and did not confirm dat rm1.1k

And i dont see any problem selling it to another person due to higher offer .. tis is a business dude.. business is to earn money.. since u have no confident on me..and i feel so insecure coz u might just say da condition is bad even if its good and gave me a lousy offer ..

but i must say.. im really sorry to ruin ur schedule..
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Mar 27 2007, 12:19 AM)
If there's nothing wrong about the condition and etc , what's wrong about the statement i made above ?
As i' had done many deals on Lowyat.net , i'm pretty sure many of guys aware i'm reliable and trustable.
So what's the fuss ?

And i'm the one who feel unsecure of your replies by SMS , it's like doesn't even interested into selling.

Who doesn't know Bussiness is to earn money by the way ?
My shedule still stays on , i'm stucking for phone to use. !
Urgh.  doh.gif
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so from this 2 statement. did u really say u might not pay rm1.1k? if i were the seller i would also ignore you if u say this to me. quick grab do mean that, the item will be sold to you at that price, therez no such thg as MIGHT QUICK GRAB. however if u did nt say that, definitely the seller had done sumthg really incorrect here.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 27 2007, 10:14 AM)
so from this 2 statement. did u really say u might not pay rm1.1k? if i were the seller i would also ignore you if u say this to me. quick grab do mean that, the item will be sold to you at that price, therez no such thg as MIGHT QUICK GRAB. however if u did nt say that, definitely the seller had done sumthg really incorrect here.
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agree, if i am the seller, I also feel insecure for this deal if the buyer said this to me.
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post Mar 27 2007, 11:22 AM

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yup, i would sold my goods to some1 can firmly pay me 1.1k. rather than a guy who might able to pay me 1.1k

btw, he offer quickgrab price @ 1.1k, u did not compromise with the quickgrab price..... seller just can treat ur offer as "best offer among others"
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post Mar 27 2007, 01:51 PM

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Obviously seller doesnt understand the meaning of quick grab.. quick grab is a confirmed deal at a price set by the seller sweat.gif

anyway bro Andy, forget bout it lar, u can find another more cheaper k800i in the market, rm1100 is abit too high considering its a ap set
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post Mar 27 2007, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ Mar 27 2007, 11:22 AM)
yup, i would sold my goods to some1 can firmly pay me 1.1k. rather than a guy who might able to pay me 1.1k

btw, he offer quickgrab price @ 1.1k, u did not compromise with the quickgrab price..... seller just can treat ur offer as "best offer among others"
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Buyer has to protect himself as well, what if there is a some minor defect on the phone, would the buyer still be expected to pay the full 1.1k for some defect, probably not right?

From what I've read, the buyer will take the phone at 1.1k IF everything as mentioned.

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post Mar 27 2007, 06:15 PM

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i think it is just a misunderstanding here. the seller want to sell but feel insecure with buyer statement.

while buyer stated "might" means he will definitely take the items if condition is as stated which i think is wrong. should say confirm take for the right condition.

(this issue solved rite. buyer forgive maa)

anyway, for future, everything need to state clearly. cheers
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post Mar 27 2007, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(hafiz267@yahoo.com @ Mar 27 2007, 06:15 PM)
i think it is just a misunderstanding here. the seller want to sell but feel insecure with buyer statement.

while buyer stated "might" means he will definitely take the items if condition is as stated which i think is wrong. should say confirm take for the right condition.

(this issue solved rite. buyer forgive maa)

anyway, for future, everything need to state clearly. cheers
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not really, how bout if u insisted on selling that thg at rm1.1k? and mayb becoz of 1 tiny scratch da buyer wants it to be rm1050? "might" is a very important word here. and also seller did say he wanted the phone to be at rm1060? herm they themselve mayb shud come over and clear thgs out. thatz y ill nvr do such thg as reserve if im selling. 1st come 1st serve basis.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 27 2007, 07:50 PM)
not really, how bout if u insisted on selling that thg at rm1.1k? and mayb becoz of 1 tiny scratch da buyer wants it to be rm1050? "might" is a very important word here. and also seller did say he wanted the phone to be at rm1060? herm they themselve mayb shud come over and clear thgs out. thatz y ill nvr do such thg as reserve if im selling. 1st come 1st serve basis.
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lolz... buyer said that he will get the phone at 1.1k if everything as mentioned. and already been quick grabbed. as simple as that.

but the seller refused to sell him the phone although he have confirmed the deal.
its nothing wrong but seems irresponsible to me.

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Wow, he changed his mind for a mere RM10. Ouch.
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On the argument about the "might" word there, dont u all realize that in every single deal whether it's stated or not the buyer only commits himself to the deal if the item is as described?

Lets say u did not say "I'll pay RM1100 but only if the item is in the condition described" and when u meet up to check the phone, it's in crappy condition with scratches all over
Will u still go through with the deal just because u didn't include the proper words when messaging the seller?
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nope actually my bro andy already told me too,he had ready all cash bout rm1k for k800i+1gb so take that nimzai hp from kl because this two day my bro will in kl for my cousin wedding dinner so he sold off his d750i fun and happily going to kl for the k800i and wedding dinner but at last somebody spoilt the deal....
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Actually from seller POV i wouldnt wait for u if i get a firm offer of 1.1K because u mention u pay depend on the condition after u see. Some buyer just like to make some lousy remark to buy the things cheaper. You might said u are not this type of ppl. But dont expect the seller to trust on ur words, is better be safe than sorry. And of course u also dont trust what the seller said regard the hp condition. So is normal human instinct. So he opt for firm cash rather than taking risk waiting for u "might/if" price.

I dont think is anyone fault here.









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the problem here i think is the term of "condition", i think no one can descript the condition on the goods, like 99%, m.. what is the mean of 99% here? difference person have difference POV. for seller i subject you take some more pictures of the phone you are selling it.

for buyer, you can always ask for picture of the goods first, then you start to bid. and you won't have to open this port now.

just a personaly comments.
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well,for me,i sold my acrox mouse yesterday,the seller offer me rm50,but after one hour,got one forumer offer me rm60,but i already told the rm50 buyer (also a forumer) to him in rm50,so,i lost rm10 lo....but anyway,the rm50 buyer CONFIRMED,and th rm60 is not.
Well,MIGHT is the keyword there...if COD,he MIGHT take a look of the phone first right?
if there is MIGHT,means the sale is not yet confirm...just a misunderstanding here....seller just want a CONFIRMED sale...
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post Mar 28 2007, 12:41 PM

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Quick grab meaning already confirm wanna buy at that price. Simple as that. Seller should provide full detail so that buyer can confirm the deal rather than might. Insecurity issue for both seller and buyer.
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rm10 is a big amount for businness la..as a seller nimzai is right..he need to protect the 1.1k deal but buyer just 'might' pay but not confirmed 2 pay that amount..need to see the condition first..how about if there got a little bit scratch, than buyer want to reduce price? not fair la for the seller..i said this have happen 2 me b4..come from bangi to hard rock cafe to sell my fon to 1 amoi..i already said my fon work perfectly n already change to new housing.she agrreed to buy...when arrive she cancel the deal..reason? the fon is not in the original housing..she walk away just like that..just god know my feeling at that time..seem wanna caught her n f**k kaw-kaw...
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That's it?
Then me think this thread should closed, there's nothing to dispute here, buyer cant accept seller's deal, so basically no deal. No deal = no dispute.
It's funny why TS still wanna create thread here.
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post Mar 29 2007, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Nimzai @ Mar 27 2007, 12:16 AM)
1st of all.. i told u im still waiting for highest offer since ur offer is only rm1060 at dat time .. and u say u might not be paying rm1.1k for it .. u nid to judge the condition .. i told u my hp is in superb condition .. nothing for u to worry .. but u still dont trust me and did not confirm dat rm1.1k

And i dont see any problem selling it to another person due to higher offer .. tis is a business dude.. business is to earn money.. since u have no confident on me..and i feel so insecure coz u might just say da condition is bad even if its good and gave me a lousy offer ..

but i must say.. im really sorry to ruin ur schedule..
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Dude,do you know what's the meaning of quick grab? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Angel86 @ Mar 29 2007, 12:57 PM)
Dude,do you know what's the meaning of quick grab? shakehead.gif
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bro, quick grab mean both party agree the deal already, but in this case, buyer side not so confirm yet due to buyer need to justify by the condition.

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quick grab? you can't opt to 'quick grab' at a unconfirmed price. If it's a quick grab, you pay the quick grab price.
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QUOTE(Angel86 @ Mar 29 2007, 12:57 PM)
Dude,do you know what's the meaning of quick grab? shakehead.gif
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So when you quickgrab something and during cod the condition is different from what you think , then you still pay the price ?
*amazing guy there. smile.gif

All the picture taken by the Seller is BLUR , so how can i judge the condition ?

Anyway , i had bought a phone , so thread closed. biggrin.gif

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