new BNM watchlist is out: 23 JUNE 2017

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...&id=83552599871

Financial Consumer Alert: List of unauthorised companies and websites has been updated.
The Bank has updated the Financial Consumer Alert list. The latest list consists of 320 companies. The following companies were added to the list:
1. Live coin Express
2. Coin Enterprise Ltd
3. Climate Protectors Sdn. Bhd.
4. Ecobit

BNM had another 3 interesting animals on the list - BitKingdom, ETHtrade and Dinar Dirham.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/14-f...umer-alert-list

so far there are no sponsors for refreshments,
do you want to sponsor?

Andreas is speaking for free since it's for the good of the community.

Threads were removed already.
What was it about?

Simply increase blocksize will further centralize the network, setting bad precendent, and in no way represent values and principles of Bitcoin.

Big block means more bandwidth, bigger blockchain. I personally dont want bitcoin only run by corporate or data centers.

The value proposition with Segwit&Uasf is that so anyone can run/fully validate txn with cheap PC as full node. Further decentralize the network. Like running Bitcoin on your cheap Android phone. The direction shld be in that way.

And its not necessarily big block.
If Bitcoin started as 100MB on the genesis block then theres no problem or maybe a different problem.
My point is that the 'change' within Bitcoin. Does gold fork?

As far as I understand pruning is purging blockchain data. Security vs convenience.

If I look at the same angle, then why majority of miners dont want segwit if it is indeed blocksize increase.
And by that premise, Segwit2x is not 2MB but 8MB.

Aah ya I think its ABCore for Android full node. But hey they support UASF.

Yes I agree. If a hardfork is coordinated, when it is necessary. Unfortunately, Bitmain does not want to be coordinated.

Starting to think there maybe another way. Hope to see implementation of sidechains soon.

No. We then have different view on whats decentralization.
Its not devs responsibility only to educate, encourage, and evolve. Why shld devs bear all the burden?

Anyone here is programmer and able to write apps/program for some pricings?

We can cooperate together.

PM me if you are one of them.

Yes.. wanna join me?

luno loh

Has anyone seen this? Who are they? Just igniting fud?
https://www.bitcoincash.org

My question is
Why was Ethereum based ICO been targetted for theft ?

I don't really see hacking done with BTC ?

Then why was the developer didn't try to prepare for this ? And try to prevent it ...?

I thought Developers will always check their code properly to prevent hacking ...

If it's really been internally hack then something wrong with this team already lo...

early in the year you see everyone in bitcointalk demand multiple escrows for ico and significant bonuses for investing early. if u raise $2/3 mil u champion already. thanks to erc20 tokens, now the tables have turn, everybody is joining in so the dev dont listen anymore, they do their own security and come up with creative to make sure the price after release gain as little as possible. that way they know they milk the investors to the max. 

You can never be sure how good is a due diligence unless youre the founder who hold the funds private key.

(A not-really)Breaking News!

https://twitter.com/SEC_News/status/889946003725537287
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https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2017-131

Don't worry. This is not related to Bitcoin.

The SEC's Office of Investor Education and Advocacy today issued an investor bulletin educating investors about ICOs. As discussed in the Report, virtual coins or tokens may be securities and subject to the federal securities laws.

Investments involving Bitcoin present unique risks.
Consider these risks when evaluating investments involving Bitcoin:

Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections.
History of volatility. The exchange rate of Bitcoin historically has been very volatile and the exchange rate of Bitcoin could drastically decline. For example, the exchange rate of Bitcoin has dropped more than 50% in a single day. Bitcoin-related investments may be affected by such volatility.
Government regulation. Bitcoins are not legal tender. Federal, state or foreign governments may restrict the use and exchange of Bitcoin.
Security concerns. Bitcoin exchanges may stop operating or permanently shut down due to fraud, technical glitches, hackers or malware. Bitcoins also may be stolen by hackers.
New and developing. As a recent invention, Bitcoin does not have an established track record of credibility and trust. Bitcoin and other virtual currencies are evolving.