nothing against vechan, it is good but i was refereeing to oce. are u ok if people loose money and blame you?

Davez89 did you manage to grab a lucky box for OceanEx ICO?

It sold out in less than 2mins lol

Yes, got my 800k box. 3.30am sales started after being delayed from 11.30pm

Stayed up until 4.30am to confirm it was successful

Have to do crisis management also since ICO was delayed and communication between team and the community was not fast enough

All admins like zombie today hahaha

This ICO so high potential, around 5million market cap only...

Did you get your Safe Haven x-node allocation?

I told you guys

Vechain is a scam

Well. I would like to see which is worst. Getting account banned or making huge loses.

I dont get it, why is he so sour ?

Haiz .. got burned also no need so sour ma ... move on la

i remember when btc dipped 10 months ago, a lot of dimwits here were chanting "whales are accumulating".

it is a vain and idle hope

Suka hati you la nak fikir apa pun. You are entitled to your own opinion. We can agree to disagree.

I never claim anything or never did I ask or promoting anything.

i will be happy to be proven wrong. but so far I am still waiting.

Well someone did mention manipulation b4? Well knowing you guys,  you will probably ban someone account since you are friends with the admin. 

If you asked me what to do when bitcoin was 19k I would have said to sell. In fact most protagonist would say the same thing.you guys just had a lucky break that's all when it went to 19k and yet cannot take full advantage.  I find this amusing. 

I see hypocrisy here. You said to not use, dupe account yet you are ready to use the report button.

If anyone spend time to create dupe just to post fud or negative post in this subs and degrading other member just because market is bearish and  bearish market bring down the price obviously. If you got money for doing whatever post you are doing. Great for you.
If you not gaining anything... it just so stupid and you should grow up. Don’t even know why you doing it. Seem like a stupid move
This sub is open for a healthy discussion, even if you are not agree with the other and the statement. But there are limits. Don’t be retards.

Never read the history charts about market cycles before ?
It happens in every market apparently. You really think Crypto is going to end right here? When there more and more big name exchanges starting to take bitcoin in ? You serious?

And that was what I have been hinting all these while. I mean when something goes up so drastically,  most likely it's caused by something behind. It's not rocket science. 

But then over here,  only positive news apparently is allowed

That is why I mentioned that at 19000, I would have advised you to sell.  Just like I would have done the same at say  10000 or even 5000. But then some ppl decide to twist my words to say that I said that you should sell at 19000 and no other price.

I dunno. They say that I am bitter.  I think its the other way round. BTW. I dun understand this logic. If I lost money becayse of bitcoin,  I would not slap my face again by reminding myself right?

And positivity can be bad. Look at mc ocean. Look at where their positivity brought them.

Vechain is just one huge scam by the Chinese! Don't get tricked!

It's cool, sorry if what I wrote sounded a little aggressive
Holding a crypto asset doesn't net you profit dividends. In crypto world, all value is derived from speculation. There are no fundamentals in crypto. Token economics (Tokenomics) that derive value for tokens are a new industry, in fact VeChain is the first token to have proper token economics, led by research intiatives in Tsinghua and Oxford Math Faculty. You seem to misunderstand the purpose of both equity investing and crypto investing. You don't get value for your equity shares by speculation alone (more so if it's a private company).

No, VTHO is not interest. It is the cost of accessing the blockchain. Therefore, the more business and non-business usage on the blockchain, the more VTHO needed. How to get VTHO? You have to hold/buy VET. Or buy VTHO from open market. Thus, linking business fundamentals of VeChain in addition to speculation value of VET and VTHO. You have to understand, every other crypto does not have an ability to directly derive their value from business fundamentals. It does not matter if LTC is accepted by small merchants, it doesn't mean LTC will go up. Unlike VET which has in built token economics.

VeChain does not spend a lot of time promoting their token. In fact their marketing sucks. You don't see crypto universe writing their news even in big websites like CoinDesk. I don't know where you got the impression that they don't focus on their business. And promoting the token is to ensure more end users hold VET, creating a decentralized public blockchain. Again, VET sucks at marketing. We are not TRX or XVG that's absolutely trash

Let the result do the talking? Have you even done basic research about VET before assuming these incorrect perceptions.?

They have the most business clients in the entire crypto universe, there is literally no other coin that has this much real world adoption.

https://vechaininsider.com/partnerships/a-c...n-partnerships/

Bright Foods and DNV GL, alongside VeChain, Tsinghua University, PICC, Norwegian Seafood Alliance will be having an entire ecosystem worth of food products in China supermarkets traceable and trackable using VET blockchain. That alone can propel VET into one of the most valuable companies in the world. But crypto market isn't mature yet. It isn't ready for such potential, what more when most of crypto people are ignorant and unwilling to learn what VET is doing. When those products are on the shelves of Chinese supermarkets and the logistics recorded on the public blockchain, burning VTHO, that's when VET will really moon.

People don't seem to understand, if speculation alone can push DOGE and LTC to hundreds of millions crypto valuation, imagine how VET can perform with speculation PLUS business fundamental.

It will be scary when VET blockchain really starts to run in early 2019.

Davez89