if korea shooting war, will btc up or down?

he is so powerful ah?

he is so powerful ah?

Study these 3 pics as attached and you will know what had happened.

Pat attention to the timestamp

wow the membership cost 3btc/month, then how much is the return?

just to survey

if we start a signal group

but have to pay monthly fee

0.1 BTC / month

are you guys willing 

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How's your portfolio going ? Mine is all bloody red and I don't have money to pick up more

Let me clear this with you, so you're trying to say that for one to do well in trading, they need to pay someone who is a professional trader aka "Sifu" in order to be able to trade well?

Is that what you're trying to say ?

Have you heard about this group? C#14A. Apparently, they are crazy good. Got TA, got ICO expert, got bottom fisher, got trending pump n dump expert, got tips from super big PnD group.

 

Beg to differ man, you don't need to pay anyone (a sifu in this case) to help you.

Whats the point of just blindly following someone ?

Cant you learn to analyse charts, events, projects etc by yourself ?

If you can't be independent and make your own calls either to buy or short something than I'm sad to say that you're on the wrong game

anyone feel luno prices are manipulated by luno?

even coinhako prices are manipulated

Well if you think that bits are worth a few thousand dollars then be my guest.

The difference between gold and bitcoin is that at least gold is tangible. It's backed up with history and even now it's a important tool when it comes to world policy. The amount of gold in a country vault tells a sign as to how much political power this country has. The thing is for gold no matter what you do it will never lose its power as something that is important in the economic sense as well as in the political sense.

Often times there are pretenders that come along like bitcoin and you see what happens. I mean tulip were valued high once upon a time and look what happened.

I asked a simple question once and till now I have not received an appropriate answer. If bitcoin goes to zero what will be the justification that it's not zero? The thing is anything in this world there must be a backing. For bitcoin how much is your blockchain worth intrinsically?

In the end those bits are just worth nothing because those bits are not generating income. They are not tied to anything physical. They do not serve at all currently to better our lives etc. Granted they do make say transaction transparent but them is this something really ground breaking? Well. Many financial institution probably is already doing that. I mean tell me which part of bitcoin cannot really be implemented from a financial standpoint except for say distributed ledger part.

The other thing I would like all of you to consider. Even for credit card there is a massive increase in the amount of features. I dun see credit card being ground breaking . the cost for credit card is zero. In fact most finance institution pay you to get a credit card.

Well if you think that bits are worth a few thousand dollars then be my guest.

The difference between gold and bitcoin is that at least gold is tangible. It's backed up with history and even now it's a important tool when it comes to world policy. The amount of gold in a country vault tells a sign as to how much political power this country has. The thing is for gold no matter what you do it will never lose its power as something that is important in the economic sense as well as in the political sense.

Often times there are pretenders that come along like bitcoin and you see what happens. I mean tulip were valued high once upon a time and look what happened.

I asked a simple question once and till now I have not received an appropriate answer. If bitcoin goes to zero what will be the justification that it's not zero? The thing is anything in this world there must be a backing. For bitcoin how much is your blockchain worth intrinsically?

In the end those bits are just worth nothing because those bits are not generating income. They are not tied to anything physical. They do not serve at all currently to better our lives etc. Granted they do make say transaction transparent but them is this something really ground breaking? Well. Many financial institution probably is already doing that. I mean tell me which part of bitcoin cannot really be implemented from a financial standpoint except for say distributed ledger part.

The other thing I would like all of you to consider. Even for credit card there is a massive increase in the amount of features. I dun see credit card being ground breaking . the cost for credit card is zero. In fact most finance institution pay you to get a credit card.

Position is solid just because it went up in the past 9 months? Hmmm. Looks like you are too naive. Stocks go up also for a few months but then the moment the support is not there, it goes all the way down.
But I guess, you are the kind that will go for anything that goes up right? ok.

Store Value? This must be the greatest joke. You mean like what happen 2 days ago whereby it was going below 3k and if not for some miracle would have perhaps plunge further?
Haha. Circumvent capital control. Given how every transaction can be tracked, it's not going to last long. Trust me.
Transfer money perhaps. I can also transfer money using paypal.

The fact that it can be traded openly, shows that it can now be manipulated like Gold. But guess, this never come into your mind. I mean as you said gold and bitcoin has the "same" properties. So why can't bitcoin get manipulated once it's being traded on the open exchange? You mean they cannot come up with "paper" bitcoins to manipulate the price?

Well. As I have already stated. Vendors trade using bitcoin and change it into USD or any other currency immediately. The only reason why they are using bitcoins is just for business purpose. I mean it also helps in marketing as well. You really think they are "embracing" this technology? I mean if monopoly money was popular they would have probably traded using monopoly money as well. It's pure business my friend.

But then to each it's own. Just be careful not to be the last one to hold it. It's not going to be funny.
I have been tracking bitcoins and I know roughly what is happening. I know that bitcoins have been used in transactions and I also know that the moment the transaction is being made, those bitcoins are converted back into USD. You see. No one in their right mind can say with confidence that bits and bytes that are backed up by virtually nothing is suddenly worth 3k. I mean come on. Bit and Bytes that are backed by nothing except for blind faith and perheps technology is suddenly worth 3k, 10k ,100k? Ok even if you have your "block" chain technology backing you up so what. What has block chain technology done to generate profits in regards to your bitcoin. What has block chain technology done to make your life easier except for maybe transfering monies. Or maybe "purchasing" things whereby the process is more difficult since the merchants have to actually purchase a system that actually changes bitcoin to usd or whatever currency. Of course, your blindness in thinking that this is really "gold" in digital form has really led you away. Then take note of one thing. Gold will never fall to zero because it's tangible. It may be manipulated to a low price but then people know the history of Gold and if it falls too low, people will just go hoard it. It's that simple. It's a balancing act here. But then bitcoin is actually backed up by a big fat ZERO. I mean so what if you have block chain or whatever technology backing it up. It's still zero. I mean the argument that it created an "economy" is moot. This "economy" is still based on fiat currency after all. I mean those traders have to actually spend on infrastructure to change the bitcoins to fiat currency. Without bitcoins, those "economy" would still have existed anyway. And if you talk about technology, technology is supposed to make things easier, faster and cheaper at no cost. Tell me what bitcoins has achieve in that? Tell me the utility of bitcoins besides the nonsense of an "economy" it created which would still be there even if bitcoins were not created? I mean if you understand basic economics, you will realize that you cannot create something out of nothing. When strip down to the backbones it's just bits and bytes that's all. How many people are you going to convince out there to buy your bits and bytes for 3000, 5000, 10000, 100k, etc. You mean ordinary people will now take the risk to buy those bits and bytes that in effect is actually zero without the bitcoin label being stamped on it.

You see, you people do not really understand how technology work. A successful technology is supposed to make things cheaper, life easier , things faster at minimum cost. I mean if i spend money on technology, I better make sure that this technology will make me more productive, make my life more comfortable ,etc. Technology in general should not be costly and in most cases should help me to reach my goals faster and cheaper. How is bitcoin going to achieve that? Will people life really change once they use bitcoins? I mean are you seriously telling me that if say bitcoin removes government intervention, the governments will just sit still and do nothing. Come on, if say the US government felt that it's a threat, all they can do is make the whole thing illegal. I tell you this whole bitcoin will go all the way to maybe below 1k in the underground market. Maybe you guys should understand what is the real reason as to why bitcoin is rising in price because if you think that this bitcoin is really a threat to the government, just know that they could have easily outlaw it. The fact that it is allowed to even go up, shows that the governments and the financial powers are not even threaten by bitcoin, the fact that bitcoins are going up probably serve their purpose.

The reason why I did not want to let my identity be known is because I know that once it's known, people will only be attacking me instead of protecting their stance on bitcoin. It already seems this way at the moment. I mean the "defender" of bitcoin here is not even protecting me anymore once my identity is being revealed. Talk about hypocrisy. You see, people just cannot stand the hard truth until the truth hits them which I believe it will soon.

Big Brother always want to maintain control of the masses, and we need to keep people's power protected. Big Brother will use Apple, Google and Microsoft as a pretense to 'support' cryptocurrency but if they are anything but decentralized, it's totally a red flag to stay away, at least with most of your assets. The last thing people want is governments or some 'authority' declaring their cryptocurrencies illegal and seize them from a centralized storage pretending to be supportive of the cryptocurrency.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-17/h...ng-your-cryptos

PBOC Researcher: China Should Start Its Own Sovereign Digital Currency "As Soon As Possible"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-18/p...y-soon-possible

Great! Nation-level ICOs.
Oh wait..

If people wanted a digital currency they wouldn't even need Bitcoin or blockchain. People wanted a decentralized currency where no government or corporation can take control of. People want their power back.

Countries creating their own centralized digital currency? They just don't get it. People find it hard to trust governments anymore.