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kmarc
post Sep 15 2017, 07:27 PM

The future is here - Cryptocurrencies!
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QUOTE(TheRealist @ Sep 15 2017, 06:16 PM)
The title for this thread is Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies so I guess my post should be valid.
Well I think I am going to sound harsh here.
Currently BTC price is 3,046.82.
I find that people here are so deluded. I actually see comments whereby bitcions are being said to be cheap right now. If bitcoins are cheap right now, then what about 1 year ago?
How do you actually assign value to a bitcoin in the first place? How do you justify to others that bitcoin is actually worth say 10k like most of you are saying right now. I mean consider this. If I create my own coin with the exact technology like bitcoin, can I sell that coin for 10k?

What really justify the price of bitcoin? The idea? The infrastructure? Etc? Have you guys actually done a survey and check it out. Compare bitcoin with say Amazon AWS? I mean let's not take the "mining" cost into consideration. After all. Does mining add to the actual value?

I mean is bitcoin really a evolutionary concept? After all, for example. Someone say that bitcoin transaction is fast. But then, so is paypal, etc. People say that there is no centrality in bitcoin. But then 95% of bitcoin is being held by a few entities. So what gives.

Let's compare a bitcoin with say even your own laptop. Can you say that complexity wise , your bitcoin is actually more complex then say your laptop or even your phone?

It's just incredible that everything under the sun is being used to justify bitcoin. Showing how naive people really are.

I guess people really do not know that prices can be manipulated.

Putting money into something that is really not backed up by anything, do not have any income generating potential accept for capital gains,is just a more complex version to say gaming money, is pathetic. I mean if say bitcoin go to zero, how are you going to justify that you made a calculated judgement in the first place? I mean are you going to say that this coin is providing me with interest? Are you going to say that this coin is something tangible that I can use for my daily life. What is the physical manifestation of this. I mean come on even email which cost nothing has more utility then bitcoin.

Bitcoin is nothing then just electric ledgers being passed around with people assigning value to it after all. No different actually from say somekind of medium money whereby if say I happen to hold this money, I will be blessed from the gods. It's no different from fiat actually. But at least with fiat, the money is "based" on the economy of that nation. What is bitcoin based on?

Cannot help but write this because i am getting irritated by the comments here. Just need to let my steam out.
And yes I created an account for this because I know people with no balls here will definitely ask the moderators to actually suspend my main account.
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Easy. Man-made. Bitcoin market cap is less than 100 B while gold is in the trillions. I have asked these questions myself. Just substitute Bitcoin with gold and see whether you can answer your questions. Why should a piece of metal be so precious. Why can't gold be cheap?
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:43 PM

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https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-all...by-september-30

More red!!!! and now goes below 3k BTC
1wildcat1
post Sep 15 2017, 07:47 PM

I'm still a n00b :(
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Luno a lot cheaper than market rate now!
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(korangar @ Sep 15 2017, 07:24 PM)
erm, mine is MYR deposit. Any announcement related with it?

PS: Can you guys just ignore the thread?
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Just use Luno for the time being. Got mine processed in less than an hour! The other can eff off.
Someonesim
post Sep 15 2017, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(TheConqueror @ Sep 15 2017, 07:05 PM)
Just done some transfer into Luno, took about 23min. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pronaz @ Sep 15 2017, 07:16 PM)
Ya, me too. Just cleared within 20 mins.
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Wow, few weeks back, it took lees than one hour for Luno to receive m2u transfer, and I thought it's fast already biggrin.gif
Carl Johnson
post Sep 15 2017, 07:55 PM

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i think the essay writer confuse bitcoin with block chain.
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:59 PM

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Keep calm and watch this video



It's about trust. If one day world's big brother said gold are worthless, your gold bar under bed will be worthless. If one day Bank Negara disavow MYR, those paper in your wallet are worthless.
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:01 PM

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post Sep 15 2017, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Sep 15 2017, 07:59 PM)
Keep calm and watch this video



It's about trust. If one day world's big brother said gold are worthless, your gold bar under bed will be worthless. If one day Bank Negara disavow MYR, those paper in your wallet are worthless.
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OHHHHHH so scary

i go tukar all my cash to barang now feel more secure !

my barang will not hilang but cash will hilang value !

jk jk shakehead.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:08 PM

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Sifu sifu, I got 1 ether and 0.12 bitcoin.. play small small only..

Now market quite volatile with news first from jp morgan with some small impact, then BTCC shutting down end of this month with big impact and heard some smaller exchange companies from China closing so market dropping .

What should I do, just wait it out and do nothing or sell off or buy more? I just buying a bit for fun and keep for few years type
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:13 PM

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post Sep 15 2017, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Secruoser @ Sep 15 2017, 08:13 PM)
We finally got where his name came from...

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wakakakaka, hodor still alive ? ( sorry never watch GoT ever, but knew hodor thanks to #9gag )
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:21 PM

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https://www.coindesk.com/document-lists-clo...coin-exchanges/
is this legit guys?
all btc exchanges in china will be shutdown?
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 15 2017, 07:27 PM)
Easy. Man-made. Bitcoin market cap is less than 100 B while gold is in the trillions. I have asked these questions myself. Just substitute Bitcoin with gold and see whether you can answer your questions. Why should a piece of metal be so precious. Why can't gold be cheap?
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To be honest I had the same questions as he did before I gotten into this whole space, with a bit lesser of the malice (since if shit tons of very intelligent people are looking into something, there must be a good reason).

Gotten my answers and now I am way in too deep. sweat.gif


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post Sep 15 2017, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(iOrange @ Sep 15 2017, 08:21 PM)
https://www.coindesk.com/document-lists-clo...coin-exchanges/
is this legit guys?
all btc exchanges in china will be shutdown?
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Not all will shutdown, some will try to move their operation outside. Binance 'claimed' they will continue serving international customer, just hope it's true but I scare the volume will be lower sad.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:41 PM

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Wow I thought this was /k for a moment rolleyes.gif

Anyway. Welp, thanks China, see you in the future, wake me up when September ends because this slump will last a while
mostwanted82
post Sep 15 2017, 08:50 PM

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anyone got cheap BTC or tokens? i can see now recovered a bit already...
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(mostwanted82 @ Sep 15 2017, 08:50 PM)
anyone got cheap BTC or tokens? i can see now recovered a bit already...
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29xx suddenly pump back 33xx cool2.gif

Damn it Todd ! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 09:00 PM

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slight rebound now. anyone took 10% gains yet? brows.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(tsunade @ Sep 15 2017, 09:00 PM)
slight rebound now. anyone took 10% gains yet?  brows.gif
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wtf 10% gain around 2 hr

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