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 LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.

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desmond2020
post Mar 24 2018, 08:17 AM

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eh eh eh


self.proclaimed pastor and his minion want to know if I am a Christian and which church I go to


you are certainly no worthy of me making such declaration because I have nothing to says to a false teacher


did that satisfy your curiosity


I am not giving any information to an anonymous self proclaimedpastor on the internet who happen to suggest punching me in the face in real life


ps: people do have real life to live outside the internet and I am not here on standby to answer you
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:06 AM

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doubt me?

seriously pastor


I remember a few years ago there is a thread regarding Lynas where a dude by he name of optiplex or something. when he lose the argument he ask for people ceredential like which uni and degree one have


familiar pattern here


btw yesterday I learned that there are 'christian' who do support violence occupation of Gaza and west bank


really an eye opener


ps and the fact he ask me try to curse Israel make me lose my word

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post Mar 24 2018, 09:25 AM

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his own word unadulterated

If you think the Jews are not Blessed by God go ahead and curse them see if the curse come true? 


first he ask me to curse jews


but of course , whole extend of truth in bible or any language is only available to UW. other just don't have what it takes to interpret anything correctly
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 24 2018, 09:36 AM)
You yourself doubt God work in Jewish State in real life it's as you are doubting God, everything in this world is in God hand, and it's all predicted by various prophet of God from jeremiah to obadiah. Jesus already said before His return there would be war and famine nation against nations king against kings, people against people's if you stil don't understand what's God command how could you call yourself Christian?

Maybe you are a fake Christian
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a fiery judgment from judge deluffy

I am.so afraid lol


my word before twist by you is as follows


I support existence of Israel but denounce the violence occupation of west bank and Gaza


which part you don't understand?


by the way the rapture of church occurs before or after tribulation described by you?
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 24 2018, 09:52 AM)
Which part you did not understand when I said God is at work behind all the events in the whole world? God is alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. The incidents in West Bank and gaza is all happening because God allowed it and the lands in West Bank and gsxa is rightfully belong to Israel  it's their right as God has given them the land from the start
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in other word


you support violence occupation of west bank and Gaza


is that right?
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post Mar 26 2018, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Haledoch @ Mar 26 2018, 09:14 AM)
During israelites migrated from egypt to the land of canaan, God didn't give them the land through peaceful nego and bargains. It was done through brutal wars, hack and slash, killings. Do you disagree with God actions as He was the same yesterday today and forever? He is a peaceful kind God and also He can be scary violent. If you disagree with what happen in gaza or wherever than maybe you think you better than God?
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I would strongly denounce any move to link today Israel - Palestinian conflict with event recorded in exodus


first of all Jews in exodus is God fearing and in fellowship with God minus periodical disobedience

meanwhile today, they deny Jesus so meaning they had deny God



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post Mar 26 2018, 09:31 AM

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Manasseh did not drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shean and its villages, or Taanach and its villages, or the inhabitants of Dor and its villages, or the inhabitants of Ibleam and its villages, or the inhabitants of Megiddo and its villages, for the Canaanites persisted in dwelling in that land. When Israel grew strong, they put the Canaanites to forced labor, but did not drive them out completely. And Ephraim did not drive out the Canaanites who lived in Gezer, so the Canaanites lived in Gezer among them. Zebulun did not drive out the inhabitants of Kitron, or the inhabitants of Nahalol, so the Canaanites lived among them, but became subject to forced labor. Asher did not drive out the inhabitants of Acco, or the inhabitants of Sidon or of Ahlab or of Achzib or of Helbah or of Aphik or of Rehob, so the Asherites lived among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land, for they did not drive them out. Naphtali did not drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shemesh, or the inhabitants of Beth-anath, so they lived among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land. Nevertheless, the inhabitants of Beth-shemesh and of Beth-anath became subject to forced labor for them. The Amorites pressed the people of Dan back into the hill country, for they did not allow them to come down to the plain. The Amorites persisted in dwelling in Mount Heres, in Aijalon, and in Shaalbim, but the hand of the house of Joseph rested heavily on them, and they became subject to forced labor. And the border of the Amorites ran from the ascent of Akrabbim, from Sela and upward.
Judges 1:27‭-‬36 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jdg.1.27-36.ESV


Now the angel of the Lord went up from Gilgal to Bochim. And he said, "I brought you up from Egypt and brought you into the land that I swore to give to your fathers. I said, 'I will never break my covenant with you, and you shall make no covenant with the inhabitants of this land; you shall break down their altars.' But you have not obeyed my voice. What is this you have done? So now I say, I will not drive them out before you, but they shall become thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare to you." As soon as the angel of the Lord spoke these words to all the people of Israel, the people lifted up their voices and wept. And they called the name of that place Bochim. And they sacrificed there to the Lord .
Judges 2:1‭-‬5 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jdg.2.1-5.ESV


talking about reading bible


some pastor really need to up his effort
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post Mar 26 2018, 09:41 AM

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you know these verse is after Joshua lead Jews into promised land

and they didn't drive out cannaites completely

and the Lord says they shall be thorn at side of Jews


I hope you understand this very simple English
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post Mar 26 2018, 10:17 AM

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if they are not obedient, they will not see the promised land. old convenient blessing is conditional to obedience


I really has no idea where you get the idea that Jews that enter promised land is not God fearing and obedient


of course there are periodical disobedience but after that they REPENT


btw, it is not true that only two person enter promised land. that two persons is from generation of who exits Egypt and together with them is offspring born during the journey plus those who are under age of twenty when they leave Egypt.

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post Mar 26 2018, 10:37 AM

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"Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to get his fruit. And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. Finally he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.' But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, 'This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.' And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?" They said to him, "He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons." Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'? Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him." When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.
Matthew 21:33‭-‬46 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/mat.21.33-46.ESV
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post Mar 26 2018, 01:05 PM

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seriously if you think only two person ie Joshua and celeb enter promised land you need to look at yourself on how you read your bible


not only two persons

two persons together with those who are under age of twenty when they left Egypt AND offsprings borne on the journey to promised land, ie 40 years in the wilderness, they enter promised land


definitely more than two persons lol


and if someone can trigger by a parable quote from bible, then he have to look deep into him. so trigger that he wrote all those nonsense not relate to passage quote

the passage is on Jews who deny Jesus, and Jesus told them indirectly they will not inherit the kingdom of heaven
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post Mar 26 2018, 03:05 PM

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that is shifting goal post in action

you word as below

They have their ups and down but you cannot deny they almost died....out of all the Jews...only 2 person made it into the promised land. Moses was denied the grace to enter at that Point in time.



I don't know what kind of English you are using but that is understood as only two Jews enter promised land


maybe your church use very different version of English then the less of English speaking world and hence no one can properly understand your English


lol
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post Mar 29 2018, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Mar 29 2018, 06:53 AM)
I think both desmond2020 and unknownwarrior are not really listening to each other sweat.gif sweat.gif

Basically desmond is accusing uw of antinomianism and uw accusing desmond of legalism.

Can the both of you agree on this statement:

Salvation is by grace alone, but the law is profitable for sanctification.

If yes, then we can all move on. sweat.gif
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that is what I am trying to tell him


refer to his above post, he is thinking sanctification by faith also


he has a vision of an absolute no work needed Christian life
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post Mar 29 2018, 08:16 AM

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Mar 30 2018, 09:09 AM
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post Jun 28 2018, 09:01 AM

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ah calvinist


can you give your opinion on below statement?

For as by nature we are inclined to evil, we have need of various helps to retain us in the fear of God. Unless our faith be now and then raised up, it will lie prostrate; unless it be warmed, it will be frozen; unless it be roused, it will grow torpid. He would have us then to stimulate one another by mutual exhortations, so that Satan may not creep into our hearts, and by his fallacies draw us away from God. And this is a way of speaking that ought to be especially observed; for we fall not immediately by the first assault into this madness of striving against God; but Satan by degrees accosts us artfully by indirect means, until he holds us ensnared in his delusions. Then indeed being blinded, we break forth into open rebellion.
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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Jun 28 2018, 10:17 AM)
I presume the question behind this statement is "why do we see Christians fall away from faith?"
They went out because they never really belonged to the faith in the begining.

Perseverance of the saints

Believe it or not, the bible commands us to have assurance in our salvation.
John's 1st epistle is written to the saints so that we have assurance of eternal life.

The whole epistle is a series of doctrinal tests, so you can practically examine whether you are in the faith.

Among the tests are:
Christology- you must have a correct view of Christ
Do not love anything in the world
Love your brothers
Testing the doctrines of false teachers
Always confess your sins
Do not practise lawlessness
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well calvinist

that is the statement from John Calvin who suppose to be calvinist no1
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post Jul 2 2018, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jul 2 2018, 11:16 AM)
I believe I have already explained in the video. What else do you need?
My feelings do not count. I have already explained using the Bible that it is not biblical.
If I am not clear with my speech please let me know. Otherwise, you are obviously not "paying attention".
And it is also why you can never spot some of the clear errors in "Christianity".
If you cannot follow what I am saying, I have actually attached my "transcript" on scribd.
https://www.scribd.com/document/382913369/Trinity-Heresy

Anyway, I do not believe that I am doing a bad job explaining what I think about the trinity.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4610727

So I guess you were not paying attention.
That is why I said in the Video, in many cases, "Christians" are actually worse then non believers.
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basically you are saying christianity is wrong for two thousand years and you and your friend's new revelation correct such misconception?

I gather that you are saying God the father, the sons and holy spirit has different will?


what make you think that orthothox and protestant believe that only one will exist?



basically I think you should stop listening to that husky something YouTube channel lol
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post Jul 2 2018, 04:03 PM

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Matthew 3:16-17

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16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

John 14:16-17

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16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.


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post Jul 2 2018, 04:57 PM

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so sylar is saying father, son and holy ghost is different projection of God.


that seems familiar

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jul 5 2018, 12:23 PM)
When the Bible talks about faith, you have to differentiate between salvation of the spirit and the salvation of the soul.

The earlier is related to regeneration. The typical verses of being saved by faith and not perish. But the experience of faith is continuous subjectively.

For example:

“Them who have faith to the gaining of the soul” (Heb. 10:39).
“Receiving the end of your faith, the salvation of your souls”  ( 1 Pet 1:9)

The Lord mentioned in Matt 16:25 which is related to daily salvation from losing our soul-life; it is obtained by our willingness to pay the price of sacrificing our soul. Eternal salvation is related to the enlivening of our spirit, whereas the salvation spoken of here is related to finding the soul-life. Save refers to receiving a reward when the Lord returns in glory because we were willing to deny ourselves, take up our cross, follow the Lord, and lose our soul-life for the Lord’s sake.
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is it possible to lose faith after regeneration? ie continue sin wilfully

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