ChanK,
Of course I don't mind them posting their link but it is not very nice & tactful.

At least come in and chit-chatlah sikit dulu. Afterall we all also want to know what GEM is all about. Then post linklah.

Lebih SOPAN begitu kan?

Saya tak marah dan GEM jgn berkecil hati. Hanya teguran membina.

Dear West Wing,

Just by his style of writing, I know who wrote to you though I don't know him in person. Plain and simple. You don't need a forensic scientist.

Don't think you have written anything offensive so far. You articulated your thoughts well and speak your mind. Afterall, this is an open forum, and a little reminder when someone gets out of line is pretty normal to me.

We are here to present our thoughts so that we can move forward together. Dissenting views are never a problem. Only personal attacks is frown upon. There are a lot of very smart people in this forum and also many without high formal education. That doesn't mean that they are not honest or sincere, all are respectful. Only bad deeds are bad.

GEM, semoga kita boleh sama-sama berjuang dalam perusahaan ini. Lebih banyak pendapat lebih bagus. Tentu ada yang amat bernas untuk renungan bersama.

Me no construction expert, but it doesn't look right. If I were you, I would try to get it touch with Mr Yeo of Tirokswifts because he has a lot of contruction experience.

Good luck.

Aiyoh, googlelah. We like to help but you also more initiative mar. No hard feelings please. I goole tirok & got this.

http://www.freewebs.com/tirokswiftlet/investinterengganu.htm

From here you try to find him lorr.

This is the start of a new era. It doesn't matter you are green, black, yellow, purple, indian, cina, melayu, iban, benggali .........all are welcome.

Let's be color-blind and treat all as our own kind.

We all love swiftlets all the same.

I am in Bintulu for today only and if interested to talk about this industry, please PM me.

Can teh tarik and talk.

Bro,

On a study tour of swiftlets. What I found was amazing.

Sarawak IS the place to conduct studies of swiftlets.

This Kelvin also LIED to me a few times.

West Wing,
Your reminder above is indeed timely.

This forum is indeed an open forum where everybody can learn. It is probably the most popular swiftlet forum in Malaysia and the reason for its popularity is exactly due to the open nature.

For those cari makan consultants, this forum is free advertisement for them. PM here PM there...........advice given in PM got guarantee or not?

Gong Xi Fa Cai to all of you.

Engineer Lee,

Tabik tabik for the summary Sifu Vs Con_Sultants

The only problem is many Con-sultants are excellent sales promoters too. No offense to some Excellent salesman who are not conman.

Saudara Araaz,

Saya sependapat dengan pandangan beberapa forumer di sini bahawa saudara hanya menggunakan forum ini untuk mempromosi syarikat saudara GEM. Jalan pintas begini tidaklah begitu baik.

Memang tepat pengamatan mereka bahawa belum ada satu pun[SIZE=7][COLOR=red] posting saudara yang membincangkan perihal burung walet secara am. Segala tulisan berkisar kepada syarikat saudara.

Kalau mahu promosi syarikat suadara, cukuplah sekadar pamirkan link di akhir tulisan saudara, tetapi sebelum itu, cakaplah dan bahaslah tentang budidaya walet dahulu khasnya KACASUSU dan lain-lain. Sebagai contoh, lihat posting swiftjames dll. Itu yang kita mahu untuk kongsi bersama.

Buat waktu ini, saudara tidak langsung membantu ahli forum untuk meningkatkan ilmu tetang walet. Jika saudara tidak boleh kongsi ilmu atau mahu rahsiakan ilmu walet syarikat GEM, saya dengan rendah diri meminta saudara mengudurkan diri dari forum ini sebelum suhu tidak menjadi PANAS.


For English readers:

I agree with a few forumers here that you are using this forum as a short cut to promote your company. Non of your postings do far discuss about swiftlets in general. All are about your company this and that.

You are most welcome to promote your company but do it by just posting the link after talking about swiftlets. An example is swiftjames and others.

At the moment, you have not helped in increasing the knowledge base of forumers about swiftlets. If you are not willing to share freely or wants to keep it as your company's secret, I humbly suggest you stop posting in this forum before it gets HOT.

This post has been edited by coolandy: Feb 3 2009, 06:08 AM

Why don't we all pool our knowledge together and come out with some form of guidelines?

DOs
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1. Allow Swiftlet farming (SF) in shoplots confined only to the upper floors.
2. Allow only Open Roof Entry to minimize sound pollution
3.

DON'Ts
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1. The Ground Floor of the shop cannot be used for SF
2. Banned all forms of Side Entry
3.


Please feel free to modify and add to the list. Slowly but surely, the list will become comprehensive.

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Added on February 4, 2009, 1:35 pmJackie,

The creator of this thread is from KT.

This post has been edited by coolandy: Feb 4 2009, 01:35 PM

Dear Orimann,

I could be ignorant if that is what you meant.

By the way, feel free to add or modify the list. I am only trying to start something. Nothing I wrote is definitive and would be naive to think otherwise.

Instead of you just talk the talk, why not walk the talk? Something concrete from you is most welcome, not that everybody would agree but if more people chip in, add or modify the list, then I am sure Mr David Lim or Harry or anyone for that matter could lead this industry in the right direction.

No intention to hurt your feelings.

First of all, do we have to reply with all the QUOTES each time? It makes scrolling down boring.

Second, YES, you can move BH to another location. It has been done in Indonesia,

BUT BUT BUT

that was for small portable BHs that was initially built and when full of birds, the small BH is moved a little by little over a long period of time into a much larger BH.

Sorry if anyone gets excited reading the first part!

Maybe somebody can come up with a way to move the shophouses failing which we all need to attend a Swiftlet Pied Piper's course. Cheap cheap only RM999 for a day. Limited seats, first come first basis.

This post has been edited by coolandy: Feb 7 2009, 06:53 PM

Chank told me that Black C is NOT Black T! I have the email but I won't post it here because it would not right for me to post it without his permission.

So, where is all this gonna lead us?

Can't blame Harry for being invited. He has done a very good job in marketing himself despite his relatively short time in blogging swiftlet subjects.

Even though I don't agree with everything mentioned in his blog and he sometimes seems to get ahead of himself, I nevertheless would give him credit for generating a lot of awareness about this industry.

It is our responsibility to respond to his articles in the proper manner.

With due respect, I propose we contact Seeseng to give him the honor to open the second thread. What do you all think?

You all have done a good job in an open forum.

First one in that area, a feeding ground plus situated along the flying path. 50 nests in 1.5 years is a SAD story.

Call it whatever you want but it COULD be much better.

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Added on February 16, 2009, 9:11 pmThere is a lot of room for improvement.

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Added on February 16, 2009, 9:13 pm1000 nests in 2.5 yrs in Mukah......no wonder someone got jelez.

This post has been edited by coolandy: Feb 16 2009, 09:13 PM