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 V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc

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post Mar 26 2007, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Mar 26 2007, 12:29 PM)
As for mine..i hire a consultant to set things up for me with a guarantee returns  nod.gif  much easier and not too time consuming  thumbup.gif  If u wan the number, I'll have to dig it up for u.
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May I know how much the consultant cost? Are they company specilised in this field? No harm to know more experts. So yes please, number and person/company name. rclxms.gif
Although I'm planning to do it myself. Of coure those renovation thing need to hire "tukang" lah. Want to do it myself so I'll know every detail of it then maybe if my place success later can become "Consultant" leh brows.gif brows.gif

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post Mar 26 2007, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 26 2007, 01:14 PM)
May I know how much the consultant cost? Are they company specilised in this field? No harm to know more experts. So yes please, number and person/company name.  rclxms.gif
Although I'm planning to do it myself. Of coure those renovation thing need to hire "tukang" lah. Want to do it myself so I'll know every detail of it then maybe if my place success later can become "Consultant" leh  brows.gif  brows.gif
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seeseng... can know how old u are or not???
u doing this alone or partnership??
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post Mar 26 2007, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 26 2007, 12:59 PM)
Pahang. RM400 is license fee... every year also need to pay one. It depends on the size of your shop. The seminar i attend at kuantan. Is run by the Kementerian Haiwan or veterinar... after seminar they will gip u one cert and some guide books.

How much you bought the books???


Added on March 26, 2007, 1:01 pm

20k consider cheap lor if including those equipment.... my place here 30k leh...


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Not too good if you renovate 2 times... cos
- you only have limited time per day to renovate... 10am to 2pm like that... then bird will come back...
- if you renovate, there will be those cement smell... birds dun like it!! becareful

ey... those book in english or chinese??
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The books cost me RM403 include postlaju. shakehead.gif But what to do? Hire consultant more expensive. My 2nd renovation is not in the same room. It's next door room separated by a wooden partition. Can renovate siap-siap then only open up the wooden partition to make it bigger area. BTW no cement will be used in the renovation. The place is downstair cement upstair wooden old shop lot.

There's another company in Kuantan selling swiftlet farming equipments - http://konghengswiftlets.com/
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post Mar 26 2007, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 26 2007, 01:24 PM)
The books cost me RM403 include postlaju. shakehead.gif  But what to do? Hire consultant more expensive.  My 2nd renovation is not in the same room.  It's next door room separated by a wooden partition. Can renovate siap-siap then only open up the wooden partition to make it bigger area. BTW no cement will be used in the renovation. The place is downstair cement upstair wooden old shop lot.

There's another company in Kuantan selling swiftlet farming equipments - http://konghengswiftlets.com/
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Oh... so u use wood...
but since inside there, humidity is quite high... then the wood very easy to become rotten one wor...
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post Mar 26 2007, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 26 2007, 01:14 PM)
Oh... nesttech... their thing very expensive one...
i buy 2 books.. RM330 leh.
one long distance speaker also need RM350.
Last time my swiftlet hse kena complain cos too loud... then i call their editor "Mr Phang" for help... then he ask me to buy the speaker...
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Agree. Super expensive. I have whole pricelist of their chemical liquid. Cheapest one the ammonia RM220/5 liter! The digital hygrometer/termometer RM180. That one I checked online selling around RM50 only. But dunno where to find in Malaysia other than Nest Tech. The long distance speaker is the long pipe look 1? They have long distance and middle distance. For mine I use 4" PVC pipe to DIY into 2 x middle distance speakers. 45 degree poiting up. I guess their 6 direction/8 direction speakers could cost a bomb! BTW I only use 1 amplifier so outside and inside noice is the same.


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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 26 2007, 01:19 PM)
seeseng... can know how old u are or not???
u doing this alone or partnership??
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I'm 34 and doing these alone. More ppl more different ideas. Since this is my first "experimental" farming better do it myself.
Ideal humidity is 80%-90%. So good quality wood is a must. I choose "Meranti". but must not be hard because swiftlets' claws need to hook up there. Soft type meranti that soft but have resistance to humidity. Since there are almost uncountable types of meranti. I particularly choose "Meranti bukit" because it's dark-reddish colour and very little smell compare to others. Don't choose the softest type because when "harvesting" the knife can damage the wood if too soft. As for 45degree angle wood I will buy from Nest Tech's hormone smelled ready made. RM190/50pcs.

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post Mar 26 2007, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 26 2007, 01:41 PM)
Agree. Super expensive. I have whole pricelist of their chemical liquid. Cheapest one the ammonia RM220/5 liter! The digital hygrometer/termometer RM180. That one I checked online selling around RM50 only. But dunno where to find in Malaysia other than Nest Tech. The long distance speaker is the long pipe look 1? They have long distance and middle distance. For mine I use 4" PVC pipe to DIY into 2 x middle distance speakers. 45 degree poiting up.  I guess their 6 direction/8 direction speakers could cost a bomb!  BTW I only use 1 amplifier so outside and inside noice is the same.


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I'm 34 and doing these alone. More ppl more different ideas. Since this is my first "experimental" farming better do it myself.
Ideal humidity is 80%-90%. So good quality wood is a must. I choose "Meranti". but must not be hard because swiftlets' claws need to hook up there. Soft type meranti that soft but have resistance to humidity. Since there are almost uncountable types of meranti. I particularly choose "Meranti bukit" because it's dark-reddish colour and very little smell compare to others. Don't choose the softest type because when "harvesting" the knife can damage the wood if too soft. As for 45degree angle wood I will buy from Nest Tech's hormone smelled ready made.  RM190/50pcs.
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hygrometer + thermometer you can get it at those DIY shop. i dunno setiawan got or not... but KL sure got...
Then are u going to use the 6/8 direction speaker?? that one very powerful one wor... last time my swiftlet kena complain... then i shut it down... straight away the bird reduce >50%!!!

As for the 45degree angle wood, you can use alloy plate as well...
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post Mar 26 2007, 02:33 PM

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FYI I'm in Kuala Terengganu. Sitiawan is one of Hamster9's swiftlet farm there. As starting I won't use the 6/8 directional speaker yet. How much you bought the 6/8 directional?? Include the water nozzles and the "External Swiftlet Attraction system - Mist Cooling Pump NT-1P" ?? So far here nobody using the 6/8 direction yet. If I first ppl use scare kean boycott lorr. The 45° wood I just want to try Nest Tech claimed so powerful. The wood they soaked in their formulated liquid. Normal type can get at less than RM2/pc. Nest Tech selling RM3.80/pc. Metal plate not so recommended coz metal+humid=oxidize=toxic.

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 26 2007, 02:33 PM)
FYI I'm in Kuala Terengganu. Setiawan is one of Hamster9's swiftlet farm there. As starting I won't use the 6/8 directional speaker yet. How much you bought the 6/8 directional?? Include the water nozzles and the "External Swiftlet Attraction system - Mist Cooling Pump NT-1P" ?? So far here nobody using the 6/8 direction yet. If I first ppl use scare kean boycott lorr.  The 45° wood I just want to try Nest Tech claimed so powerful. The wood they soaked in their formulated liquid.  Normal type can get at less than RM2/pc.  Nest Tech selling RM3.80/pc. Metal plate not so recommended coz metal+humid=oxidize=toxic.
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Consultant help me to build one... cos the consultant is my dad's fren... so i got some discount. So i have no idea how much that costs. I didn't use any swiftlet attraction systems.
So far i have started about 1 mth oledi... i just went in there and see during the third week... looks promising.
got 15 piles of shit + 1 incompleted nest.
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post Mar 26 2007, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 26 2007, 04:35 PM)
Consultant help me to build one... cos the consultant is my dad's fren... so i got some discount. So i have no idea how much that costs. I didn't use any swiftlet attraction systems.
So far i have started about 1 mth oledi... i just went in there and see during the third week... looks promising.
got 15 piles of shit + 1 incompleted nest.
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would you be able to forward me the consultant's name and company and also contacT ?

thanks


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post Mar 27 2007, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 26 2007, 04:35 PM)
Consultant help me to build one... cos the consultant is my dad's fren... so i got some discount. So i have no idea how much that costs. I didn't use any swiftlet attraction systems.
So far i have started about 1 mth oledi... i just went in there and see during the third week... looks promising.
got 15 piles of shit + 1 incompleted nest.
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The consultant did everything for you then charge a total sum? 15 piles of droppings + 1 nest base is quite promising. But for more accurate result evaluation should be the 1st 6 months. To be consider successful must have at least 10 units of base or nest combined.

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The consultant did everything for you then charge a total sum? 15 piles of droppings + 1 nest base is quite promising. But for more accurate result evaluation should be the 1st 6 months. To be consider successful must have at least 10 units of base or nest combined.
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yup... its all one lum sum, including some minor renovation if the result not good... and also he will help you to take care for the first 3 mths.
yea... i aim for AA or AAA grade... hahhaha... drool.gif
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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 26 2007, 07:15 PM)
would you be able to forward me the consultant's name and company and also contacT ?

thanks
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You interested as well?? but where is your location?? The guy only will do for those location nearby only... cos according to him, is easy to take care and monitor.
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post Mar 27 2007, 11:39 AM

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weihow_2000 your consultant uncle got sell Humidity/Thermometer? Preferable digital type. Nest Tech selling too expensive. Made in China. Found people sell in E-Bay Hongkong converted to RM around RM50 only.


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post Mar 27 2007, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 27 2007, 11:39 AM)
weihow_2000 your consultant uncle got sell Humidity/Thermometer? Preferable digital type. Nest Tech selling too expensive. Made in China. Found people sell in E-Bay Hongkong converted to RM around RM50 only.
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The consultant also bought it from setiawan... exactly same with the pic one... he say he only bought it around RM50 also.

Alternatively, you also can bought from ebay but pls check the shipping first... normally the shipping fee not cheap at all.
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post Mar 27 2007, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 27 2007, 12:11 PM)
The consultant also bought it from setiawan... exactly same with the pic one... he say he only bought it around RM50 also.

Alternatively, you also can bought from ebay but pls check the shipping first... normally the shipping fee not cheap at all.
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I currently still asking every where to get the hygrometer/thermometer locally. From Ebay HK the item price cheap but shipping alone already over RM60 so cannot buy.


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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 27 2007, 01:20 PM)
I currently still asking every where to get the hygrometer/thermometer locally. From Ebay HK the item price cheap but shipping alone already over RM60 so cannot buy.
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goto www.google.com.my, then type hygrometer and then choose "pages from malaysia".

Apparently, ebay.com.my got sell and i found some KL company also got sell.
Another way is... use yellow pages
hope this will help.
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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 27 2007, 01:42 PM)
goto www.google.com.my, then type hygrometer and then choose "pages from malaysia".

Apparently, ebay.com.my got sell and i found some KL company also got sell.
Another way is... use yellow pages
hope this will help.
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Thanks for the info. But those in ebay.com.my all the "Item location" is in Hongkong. Shipping need £7.99+£1.00 insurance. £8.99=around RM61.32 shocking.gif
Other than that are those made in Japan/German professional industry use hygrometer laugh.gif
For sure there are some KL companies selling but don't know which/where. You know the companies names? I also contacted Kong Heng Swiftlet in Kuantan. They don't have stock for the auto hygrometer controller also.

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QUOTE(weihow_2000 @ Mar 27 2007, 08:59 AM)
You interested as well?? but where is your location?? The guy only will do for those location nearby only... cos according to him, is easy to take care and monitor.
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my location is in Bentong, Pahang.

btw i am going over to Hong Kong on the 12th April, i would love to have a look at those equipments.
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post Mar 28 2007, 12:55 PM

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New updates: Successfully ordered a digital Hygrometer/Thermometer CT-138B from CT made in Taiwan @RM75 including shipping. thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 28 2007, 12:55 PM)
New updates: Successfully ordered a digital Hygrometer/Thermometer CT-138B from CT made in Taiwan @RM75 including shipping.  thumbup.gif
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Wow great!!! where u get it?
so when u will start the construction??

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