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springfall
post Jun 7 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Jun 7 2017, 02:18 AM)
I don't think it's etching into the laminated area. I remember TS mentioned the foggy part temporary restored when applying rubbing compound or detergent or maybe something oily. Could it be there's a layer of coating on the windscreen.
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yeah any liquid/oil that contact the surface will make it smooth and reduce distortion of light hence disappear.
but it could also flow into the minor cracks/scratches.

here's an example.
stone chip ur car, first is small hole, no crack.
after driving 1 year, the elements (water, dust, dirt etc) settle and expand in the chip.
expansion and contraction will force a channel into the glass
with the different expansion character, a crack is developed or the marked area will very visible.
then the dr cermin will say 'left too long, dirt went in already'
then forever u will see the shiny mark.

In this case, im guessing the solution ate more rapidly and dried inside.
with water it will become clear, but evaporates quickly.
other solutions will dry slower so fog will be slower.

one way draw the foggy out lines in the inner side
then saturate the area with something and let dry.
see if foggy lines change.
if major (shape) change then means liquid went into the laminated areas
if minor (whiteness/ clarity) change then etching in the cracks

if TS cannot tahan, then better change glass.
but must make sure glass installed properly or water enter even more problem.
TSIReallyNeed Answers
post Jun 7 2017, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(springfall @ Jun 7 2017, 10:42 AM)
yeah any liquid/oil that contact the surface will make it smooth and reduce distortion of light hence disappear.
but it could also flow into the minor cracks/scratches.

here's an example.
stone chip ur car, first is small hole, no crack.
after driving 1 year, the elements (water, dust, dirt etc) settle and expand in the chip.
expansion and contraction will force a channel into the glass
with the different expansion character, a crack is developed or the marked area will very visible.
then the dr cermin will say 'left too long, dirt went in already'
then forever u will see the shiny mark.

In this case, im guessing the solution ate more rapidly and dried inside.
with water it will become clear, but evaporates quickly.
other solutions will dry slower so fog will be slower.

one way draw the foggy out lines in the inner side
then saturate the area with something and let dry.
see if foggy lines change.
if major (shape) change then means liquid went into the laminated areas
if minor (whiteness/ clarity) change then etching in the cracks

if TS cannot tahan, then better change glass.
but must make sure glass installed properly or water enter even more problem.
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meaning that in my case if will go away?

100% disappear? or just some improvement but still got effect?

i've given up on trying anything else, just wanna quickly settle and change! too sad seeing it like that

i going to mirror specialist, shouldnt have much issue gua, i think got 3 years warranty some more for improper installation. hopefully no water will masuk la.
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post Jun 7 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 7 2017, 11:25 AM)
meaning that in my case if will go away?

100% disappear? or just some improvement but still got effect?

i've given up on trying anything else, just wanna quickly settle and change! too sad seeing it like that

i going to mirror specialist, shouldnt have much issue gua, i think got 3 years warranty some more for improper installation. hopefully no water will masuk la.
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have you tried using thinner?, just a few ringgit diy.
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post Jun 7 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 7 2017, 01:25 PM)
meaning that in my case if will go away?

100% disappear? or just some improvement but still got effect?

i've given up on trying anything else, just wanna quickly settle and change! too sad seeing it like that

i going to mirror specialist, shouldnt have much issue gua, i think got 3 years warranty some more for improper installation. hopefully no water will masuk la.
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I cannot guarantee anything
since tried so many already and lazy try turpentine, just tukar, safer anyways.
just make sure insurance cukup to claim.

Water leak will only know during massive downpour, normal rain will not leak unless damm bad install.
but I know those cars with auto wipers, most kena messed up after replace windscreen
(just make sure they use new sensor with window, and not tear the sensor off old and paste it back on)
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post Jun 7 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(springfall @ Jun 7 2017, 12:16 PM)
I cannot guarantee anything
since tried so many already and lazy try turpentine, just tukar, safer anyways.
just make sure insurance cukup to claim.

Water leak will only know during massive downpour, normal rain will not leak unless damm bad install.
but I know those cars with auto wipers, most kena messed up after replace windscreen
(just make sure they use new sensor with window, and not tear the sensor off old and paste it back on)
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Lucky my car don't have those auto wiper thingy, less worry!

I don't have windshield insurance , hailat d need need to pay full sendiri!

I've learned from so many mistake from this round! Hahaha
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post Jun 7 2017, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 7 2017, 01:24 PM)
Lucky my car don't have those auto wiper thingy, less worry!

I don't have windshield insurance , hailat d need need to pay full sendiri!

I've learned from so many mistake from this round! Hahaha
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With prior experience with this issue, I can assure you there is nothing that can be done now other than to live with it or change to another windscreen. Watermark removers are very acidic and should not be left to dry on windscreens. You must wipe it off as soon as you apply.
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post Sep 20 2024, 11:03 PM

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Bringing this topic to 2024. My X50 front windscreen and front left window got watermarks......smooth to the touch. for the windscreen it's around the perimeter of the wipers while waterspots all over the side window. an eyesore. have tried steel wool 0000 and vinegar.... didn;t work for me....Maybe the Rainx i used on the windows led to the current situation though i made it a point to buff off with tissue paper before it dried.

thinking of getting an orbital polisher......keelat/Godzillar/shinemate/Bosch. budget $150 to $200. which one gets the job done the best? also got 300W or 800W.....advise pls. the cerium oxide powder shown here also looks like it could do the job.

what size polishing pads to get and what polisher cream/liquid is best for the job? still had a bottle of a RM90 Meguair's polishing compound cream with me.(attached)...i suppose that can be used to polish glass......

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post Sep 21 2024, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(kitkat21 @ Sep 20 2024, 11:03 PM)
Bringing this topic to 2024.  My X50 front windscreen and front left window got watermarks......smooth to the touch.  for the windscreen it's around the perimeter of the wipers while waterspots all over the side window. an eyesore.  have tried steel wool 0000 and vinegar.... didn;t work for me....Maybe the Rainx i used on the windows led to the current situation though i made it a point to buff off with tissue paper before it dried.

thinking of getting an orbital polisher......keelat/Godzillar/shinemate/Bosch. budget $150 to $200. which one gets the job done the best? also got 300W or 800W.....advise pls. the cerium oxide powder shown here also looks like it could  do the job.

what size polishing pads to get and what polisher cream/liquid is best for the job?  still had a bottle of a RM90 Meguair's polishing compound cream with me.(attached)...i suppose that can be used to polish glass......

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use autosol metal polish by hand... will clean off water marks... can remove headlights yellowing also...


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