LYN Power Tools Discussion V2, Bosch, Makita, Dewalt, Dremel etc
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 Aug 4 2017, 01:13 PM
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The description says 4AH battery wor?
If its really 4AH then its a really good deal. Problem is I don't have use for impact wench. Those mechanics gonna be happy. The bosch 2 in 1 charger is a 3A charger. Half the power of existing AL1860 charger. Still ok lar. This post has been edited by yushin: Aug 4 2017, 01:25 PM |
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Aug 4 2017, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(kennji @ Aug 4 2017, 01:44 PM) spend some time looking at youtube and quite some GAS 15 PS video came up. seems like standard package includes the Bosch click tool connector. RM11 is good price, amazon wants US$15 or above... Looks like it includes that powertool connector. The name is tool sleeve.I think this one normal paper filter? or HEPA filter? manuals says don't use it to suck beech/oak dust or carcinogenic stuff due to health regulation. Malaysia ada regulation ka?   Doesn't look like HEPA ready. No mention of the HEPA word anywhere in the manual. Its ok I can pipe the blower hose to exhaust outside the room.  |
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Aug 4 2017, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 4 2017, 04:02 PM) What that 100w min mean? Lower suction mode ? If so, hope you can check the noise DB on the 100w mode running. I think it means the powertool connected need to be minimum 100w consumption.Too low power the vacuum's circuit won't be able to remote trigger by the power tool. |
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Aug 4 2017, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 4 2017, 10:15 PM) Thanks. If the vacuum is brushed motor you can use those high power dimmer to reduce voltage to the vacuum thus make it turn slower = more quiet. Sigh, Thought I can do something late night with more silent vacuum. I haven't try this method yet.  |
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Aug 5 2017, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Aug 5 2017, 10:59 PM) advisable to invest in their 18v system if budget is not an issue. 18v have more useful tools compare to 12v Will Lazada cancel the order if discover glitch?let me check with them if you are really keen. anyway ct hardware already listed their new tools in lazada ( their lazada price is cheaper ( RM700 ) than their own website ( RM779 ), maybe uploaded pricing error? faster faster grab it with lazada discount code  ) the others tools is the same pricing, only this vacuum got pricing glitch...  product link :bosch gas 15 ps - ct hardware lazada only 4 units left for this pricing... example of my purchase if use lazada voucher....using samsung s8 glitch voucher    Too bad I already done my dust control system in my room. Else can really consider this vacuum.  This post has been edited by yushin: Aug 5 2017, 11:13 PM |
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Aug 7 2017, 06:59 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Those 10.8v drill has fat handles that doesn't really fit my small hands. 18v's handles is slimmer and better to hold, but 18v tends to have bigger motor and heavier. |
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Aug 7 2017, 02:16 PM
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I see most battery got balancing circuit wired in, Bosch its too well covered in wrapping can't see it to confirm.
China made Makita clone battery with less complicated control circuit costs 1/3 of original makita battery. |
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Aug 7 2017, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 7 2017, 02:53 PM) According to the guy, the bosch circuit board is not on the battery. But at the charger side. I open my AL1860CV to take a look at inside circuit, not so complicated actually.So if the battery pack failed, it mean the battery failed. But others battery with a circuit board in it, if some component spoil, (IC, resistor etc) the whole battery pack failed. Even the battery cell is still good. The chance of the battery cell spoil is very less than the circuit board. And with the circuit board built into the battery pack, it more expensive. Don't understand what those chips in the does tho. haha. In this case, clone Bosch battery should be relative safe coz Bosch;s battery does not require complicated control circuits like other brands.  This post has been edited by yushin: Aug 7 2017, 04:15 PM |
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Aug 7 2017, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 7 2017, 05:59 PM) i been playing with 18650 batteries, these battery are common. On 18650 also have two type, one with inbuild circuit one without, and both are use for different purpose. The cheap ones that come with circuit protection are as good as useless, it can try your sensitive device. Sometime I'm thinking, is the clone battery actually 2nd grade battery or just the big brands has damn high markup? (to cover for insurance and their team of lawyers in case the battery blow up).The cheap ones cannot product sustained high current drawn. Sometime you risk burning the battery if drain are too high to be handle. Coz some of the OEM battery seller claims their 18650 are actually from samsung/sony too. 6 years shop in taobao, with some feedback of battery DOA but non complain the battery is under capacity/under power. Plus some youtube channel that open up OEM batteries to show the cells are actually the same as original. Thats the thing that got me thinking... |
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Aug 7 2017, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2017, 07:55 PM) i would really like to buy one if i really use it, even if once a year. LoL You need chainsaw to prepare for zombie apocalypse. but the fact is, i still dunno what to use it for i try to find some sort of reason to justify my power tools purchase. some good, some are just borderline (the 18v vacuum for example) hahaha |
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Aug 7 2017, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2017, 07:57 PM) btw, i just watched the video ozak posted. quite informative. thanks for sharing If you can read chinese, go explore those OEM/2nd hand makita bateries in taobao. i am quite relieved to see that bosch batteries doesnt fails as frquent as makita i was contemplating between makita, bosch and dewalt 18v platform before investing on bosch, just because it's easier to buy bosch replacement batteries than others |
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Aug 7 2017, 08:58 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « They still using samsung or sony battery. If using china battery I don't dare to touch also.  |
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Aug 15 2017, 06:53 PM
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Went to CT hardware to look for a T10 screw driver. Finally found it, looks like very old stock.
Tested the GAS15PS vacuum, I like the feature and the vacuum is not loud. But I wonder how much suction will lost after passing through the cyclone. 
With the T10 screwdriver, I can open up the ori and clone makita battery to inspect. Ori makita battery has balancing build in and large circuit board Clone makita batery has smaller circuit board and no balancing. Both has temperature probe to prevent overheat. 
Ori Makita 18v 4AH RM440 Clone Makita 18v 4AH RM120. CLone makita use 1 years spoil also worth it. Time will tell... This post has been edited by yushin: Aug 15 2017, 08:54 PM |
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Aug 15 2017, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2017, 09:43 PM) I never like Stanley tools. Their finishing are rough and not fine. More to medium quality. The grip can give me high torque to push. Oops my bad.That clone battery probably not 4ah. Probably 1/2 of it only. There is no 4ah battery yet in the market. The thick Battery at the left is clone 4AH. The thin battery at the right is ori 2AH. I have no test equipment to validate their capacity but the thicker battery does lasts much longer than 2AH on a circular saw. |
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Aug 15 2017, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 15 2017, 10:08 PM) to me any tool is good as long as it does what it does and survive that job Didn't use dust collection cover? So much concrete dust of the tool.i always buy cheapest china no names ones unless the more exp ones give me superior performance - eg the riveter & tin snips anyhow, this is my bulldog after 3 weeks. she's been a good pup. a lot of bruises. very powerful... just one regret... i bought it rm700 too expensive   btw, dun belip that hype over vibration control. it hurts. my right arm is full with salonpas after drilling about 20 holes @ 14mm / 75mm deep. |
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Aug 15 2017, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2017, 10:20 PM) If that 10pcs battery is 4ah, than should be correct. Given it run 5pcs series and 2 set of parallel. With my low usage, probably will take a long time to kong... You need some discharge device to check the capacity. Next time kong liau, can just change the battery to higher capacity. 6ah possible. Even 9ah or 12ah. But you need to use the high discharge type. |
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Aug 15 2017, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 15 2017, 10:28 PM) the clone batt pack is using what cells? samsung? No idea, didn't open the wrapping, the cells are wraped in brown paper.The seller says its samsung cell but I dunno how to validate. This post has been edited by yushin: Aug 15 2017, 10:42 PM |
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Aug 15 2017, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2017, 10:38 PM) Have to check with Yushin. Used the clone battery on my circular saw, doesn't feel the heat at all, a bit warm only.Depend how cheap. Those too cheap will just use non brand type. Which have short charge cycle or lower capacity. Brand battery will be more expensive. If they want keep it low cost, they will use lower capacity and label it at 2ah. But fake or Ori, they must use high discharge type. If not will over heat or catch fire. Never really put the battery under high drain condition, I don't have a grinder. This post has been edited by yushin: Aug 15 2017, 10:47 PM |
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Aug 15 2017, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2017, 10:54 PM) There is 2 type of battery cell. Normal discharge and high discharge. High discharge battery can discharge as high as 10A. Without heat the battery. Or catch fire. I open the paper wrapping and saw these numbersIt is normally use on vaping device. So you want to buy this type of battery, look for vaping people. They sell 100% ori. For fake battery to achieve higher Amp but using normal battery, they parallel it the battery. So your drill motor require 10A to run, 10/2= 5A each battery discharge. So it won't heat up the battery. A UHG9RX8 035850 No idea what it means |
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Aug 15 2017, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2017, 11:20 PM) Capalang battery. I guessed so with such low price Normally will print like UR18650NSX which is Sanyo battery. Or INR18650-25R5 which is samsung.  |
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