I have a different idea.
If i want to change to new platform, i will change AM2

As all we know, C2D is much better then AM2, but C2D is much much expensvie than AM2

one Athlon 64 AM2 3800+ x2 is only RM360 however one C2D 6300 alrd cost us about RM680. Although C2D 6300 is better then 3800+x2 , but the proformance is not much different for normal user or gamer.

In addition, AMD will come out the AM2+ soon which also can supported by AM2 Motherboard.

If i change my platfrom to AM2 now, then i still can change to AM2+ later if the proc come out.

Talking about price of course there is always AMD wins hand down.I also agree with this,even the X2 eprformance is not as C2D.This depends on the users which system they want to choose.Neither AMD nor Intel will sell their new procs below RM200 escpecially those mainstream products.

Yaya.
agree with you.

So, i think C2D can attract a lot of high end user now, however AMDX2 will also attract a lot of mid end and lower end user.

Frankily speaking , i am just a low - mid end user.
I will prefer Am2 3800x2 which can save me more than RM300 which can buy more 1G DDR2 ram or a better graphic card.

This post has been edited by darnell: Mar 24 2007, 01:03 AM

why bother getting 3800X2? 3600X2 65nm a.k.a Brisbane is much cheaper and OC better. i saw forumner selling this bulk Brisbane for around RM250. and got shops selling it at RM270, but i think must bundle with mobo.

oh.. I just make a example when i compare AM2 and C2D.

yaya. i also saw this 3600x 2 in Lowyat.net.
The price is so attracitve.
Plan to get one but have to save more money 1st.

if i plan to change my platform, i have to change my proc, mobo and ram.
So, i think i have to plan it nicely

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Added on March 24, 2007, 2:18 amIn addition, i think AMD suddenly stop 939 also have their own planning.
939 is using DDR RAM however all factory are concentrating in producing the DDR2 ram recently.

Once AM2 have launch, all motherboard company concentrate in producing AM2 motherboard because it is a new product of AMD that use DDR2.
All DDR2 will be much cheaper then DDR ram as all factory stop producing DDR ram. Therefore, new buyer sure will prefer AM2 If compare with 939.

Furthermore, Intel alrd standardize all their socket to 775 after stop producing 478 soc proc.

If AMD didnt stop producing 939 soc proc, then AMD will have three type of soc in their proc.

754 and 939 is old product, all motherboard company sure will not concentrate in producing it's motherboard.
Therefore, for proc that insufficient of ram and motherboard, AMD force to stop it.

This is my own stupid opinion, pls dont shoot me if u dont agree , but i really hope can learn something from u all .

This post has been edited by darnell: Mar 24 2007, 02:19 AM

If I, I will go 4 AM2 rather than C2D even C2D performs much more better. AM2 X2 3800+ cheaper roughly RM300 than E6300. With this amount I can buy a better mobo, a better graphic card or a true power PSU which giv me more headroom to OC d X2!
Furthermore AMD release their Brisbane 65nm procs liao n I'm think it will more OC-able than 90nm 1.

ya, i saw a trader selling 3600x2 Brisbane 65nm is lowyat b4
but cannot found it now d.
anyone see it b4 ? can show me ? Thanks.

The 939 socket is killed by DDR2, AMD had no choice but follow the trend otherwise it can be seen lag behind since intel already move to DDR2 and all memory manufacturer already start focusing on DDR2 and abandon DDR1.

but if AMD can produce S939 with DDR2 then i think there is another situation for AMD compare right now.

From what i know 754 and 939 have some different.
939 support dual channel , memory controller accesses memory at 128-bit rate and
754 support single channel , memory controller accesses memory at 64-bit rate

I guess may be some technical problem make AMD fail to produce S939 with DDR2, but it is just my guess , dont shoot me if i am wrong.

This post has been edited by darnell: Mar 24 2007, 01:36 PM

hai..

can ayone please tell me is
AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core TL-50
a good processor?

Thanksss

What's the point in that? You'd still need a new mainboard for DDR2, and you'd still need a new chip for DDR2 support. So it's no different from the current situation. Except some dumbasses may buy the wrong chip/mainboard/memory combo.

Guess the 939 fanboys just can't accept that DDR technology is already passing its prime time.

DDR2 has lower voltage requirement... and low power is one of the key of future technology.

Does this means that it isnt really worthit to get a 939 system rite now considering the fact that it might be a 2nd handed one?

is dep on price...soc am2 sint really fast if compare to soc939...

in term of performance socket 939 still beat soc am2 if i not mistaken...

soc 939 still got high end proc..but of cos is expensive and not that worth if compare to c2d

I think they got to move fast because Intel is already bragging about having DDR2, hence those that are not so computer-literate tend to prefer Intel because of a 'faster' memory.

For example, last time, those brochurs always highlight DDR2 and put a comment saying " Less power, higher performance "

Buying sc939 now? Budget to use it for how long? Even the only DDR left is 400. Rarely to find the 333 or 266. Soon DDR will extinct

About AM2+ or AM3, sure AM2+ processors may fit into AM2 mobo or vice versa but does the current mobo supports it? Maybe later AM2 mobo will

Source
Guess they intend to make it like Intel, using the same socket all the way, or at least they are compatible. Buy a new processor, same old mobo

This post has been edited by afosz: Mar 24 2007, 10:14 PM

zzzz... haven't try the DDR2 but DDR3 are on the way out soon.. nowday tehnology really fast lor.

What he mean here is for those who oledi on s939 platform, all they nid 2 do is juz buy a new board 4 s939 which supporting DDR2 n sum DDR2 RAMS. The difference is upgrade d s939 by juz buy a new board n RAM modules compare 2 AM2 which required end users buy NEW AM2 proc, NEW AM2 board n NEW DDR2 RAM modules
Like this can attract those who oledi on s939 2 upgrade rather than buy a whole new system mah! Can save $$$ on procs loh.

Hehe..Im stilll a proud Venice soc939 user ..bought it 2nd hand from forumers here.

last month i set up a new rig..bought am2 mobo, ddrII and facing a surplus in budget...and it end with buying AMD 3000+ AM2 proc for RM215 (new retail) ...later if got extra money, will upgrade to x2 3800+

As any other socket939 user, i cant avoid myself to try ddrII RAM...thats why im turned into AM2 board. As a student, with the budget, i cant catch the new technology...