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post May 27 2017, 12:11 PM, updated 9y ago

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KUALA LUMPUR: Students undergoing courses in the Architecture and Design Faculty in UNITAR International University here were left stunned when the university decided to close down the faculty, less than a year after it was introduced.

It was understood that the reason behind the closure was that the university has no revenue to continue some of the programmes under the faculty.

A Foundation in Built Environment student, who declined to be named, said the students are demanding an explanation and compensation from the university.

“We want an answer and full compensation. We are left hanging here without any clear explanation on what is happening.

“We had to fork out a lot of money to travel from our homes to the university everyday, and even pay for our own assignments or projects. Who is going to pay us back for all our hard work?

“I am in my third semester already and I have another semester to complete my course. But, in under a year, they decided to terminate the course without ours or our parents’ consent. What can we do now? ” said the 19-year-old.

She said her parents were angry to learn about the incident and have also demanded clarification from the university.

Foundation in Design student, Rebecca Joseph, 19, also expressed her disappointment over the decision by the university.

The student, who is currently pursuing her first semester in the course, said she was hoping to graduate from the university.

“I am disappointed by the decision. I don’t think I want to continue studying here any more. I thought I had a bright future here,” she said.

A spokesperson from ILMU Education Group, when contacted, said the decision was made due to the low number of student enrolment in some of the courses offered in the faculty.

The spokesperson told the New Straits Times that UNITAR has offered the students several options.

These include completing the foundation programme at the campus by October this year, transferring to Kuala Lumpur Metropolitan University College (KLMUC) or UCSI University (for diploma and bachelor students), withdrawing from UNITAR (payment of full refund or full settlement of PTPTN) and changing to other programmes at the campus.

“We have already briefed some of the students’ parents last week on our decision to close some programmes in the faculty.

“The parents accepted the decision well and we gave them full refunds. We also gave them several other options,” said the spokesperson.

Meanwhile, in an immediate response, a Higher Education Ministry spokesperson said they would look into the matter soon. The ministry advised complainants to contact the ministry’s Enforcement and Inspectorate Division at uakbp_bpi@mohe.gov.my.


https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2017/05/...-down-less-year

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QUOTE(Angtengbu @ May 27 2017, 12:32 PM)
Thx to najib cut funding for universities
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I thought unitar is private uni?
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QUOTE(Angtengbu @ May 27 2017, 12:32 PM)
Thx to najib cut funding for universities
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QUOTE(killeralta @ May 27 2017, 12:38 PM)
I thought unitar is private uni?
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post May 27 2017, 12:44 PM

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post May 27 2017, 01:24 PM

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graduate oredi oso becum kuli

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post May 27 2017, 01:27 PM

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post May 27 2017, 01:54 PM

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Zzz.. dont be surprise laa..
Even UM is charging an arm and a leg for their courses...
90k per pax just for engineering just to keep the course afloat...
not enough students = wont break even = No profit
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ May 27 2017, 12:44 PM)
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So they can at least have the chance to learn proper spelling and grammar.

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post May 27 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(ihatemynahs @ May 27 2017, 01:24 PM)
graduate oredi oso becum kuli

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post May 27 2017, 02:17 PM

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as a council member, this issue is directly under my turf. there are a few things i cant comment here until we resort this thing out. but let me point a few things to clarify the issue:

i. LAM through the council of accreditation and architecture education (CAAEM) have approved UNITAR to run an architecture course.

ii. UNITAR ran it for 2-3 semesters, taking a few batches of students.

iii. UNITAR programmes came under review by their board of directors (or something), and decided some of the programmes are not feasible to run. one of it is the architecture programme.

currently CAAEM is advising the architecture school, the students and the parents on the possibilities, which i cannot discuss here yet.
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Lulz, normal la private u. Happened here too. Recently fashion design course. Less students, closed. Sell all equipment to cover cost.haha. Pity the students lah
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 28 2017, 05:17 AM)
as a council member, this issue is directly under my turf. there are a few things i cant comment here until we resort this thing out. but let me point a few things to clarify the issue:

i. LAM through the council of accreditation and architecture education (CAAEM) have approved UNITAR to run an architecture course.

ii. UNITAR ran it for 2-3 semesters, taking a few batches of students.

iii. UNITAR programmes came under review by their board of directors (or something), and decided some of the programmes are not feasible to run. one of it is the architecture programme.

currently CAAEM is advising the architecture school, the students and the parents on the possibilities, which i cannot discuss here yet.
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Why stop it suddenly? Why not just stop new intakes, let the current students grad first even if it may take additional 2-3 years before they totally close the course down?

Kesian liao them. Money get refund ok, but time wasted nobody can replace
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 28 2017, 05:45 AM)
Why stop it suddenly? Why not just stop new intakes, let the current students grad first even if it may take additional 2-3 years before they totally close the course down?

Kesian liao them. Money get refund ok, but time wasted nobody can replace
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it's unsustainable, i guess. architecture has one of the smallest lecturer:student ratio. the board set the maximum of 1:15. compare this to most other courses that has 1:100 ratio, it's very hard to break even.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 27 2017, 09:17 PM)
as a council member, this issue is directly under my turf. there are a few things i cant comment here until we resort this thing out. but let me point a few things to clarify the issue:

i. LAM through the council of accreditation and architecture education (CAAEM) have approved UNITAR to run an architecture course.

ii. UNITAR ran it for 2-3 semesters, taking a few batches of students.

iii. UNITAR programmes came under review by their board of directors (or something), and decided some of the programmes are not feasible to run. one of it is the architecture programme.

currently CAAEM is advising the architecture school, the students and the parents on the possibilities, which i cannot discuss here yet.
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Tell something we dont know..

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 27 2017, 10:20 PM)
it's unsustainable, i guess. architecture has one of the smallest lecturer:student ratio. the board set the maximum of 1:15. compare this to most other courses that has 1:100 ratio, it's very hard to break even.
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Its funny, as a student, they want to study courses that has least people go into to avoid competition in the crowded job marketplace, like IT is so crowded due to surplus of graduates and it drives the salary down.

But then courses that has little enrolment has to be shut down....


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QUOTE(azhan82 @ May 27 2017, 01:54 PM)
Zzz.. dont be surprise laa..
Even UM is charging an arm and a leg for their courses...
90k per pax just for engineering just to keep the course afloat...
not enough students = wont break even = No profit
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UM? rm90k per person?

QUOTE(ah_suknat @ May 28 2017, 07:44 AM)
Its funny, as a student, they want to study courses that has least people go into to avoid competition in the crowded job marketplace, like IT is so crowded due to surplus of graduates and it drives the salary down.

But then courses that has little enrolment has to be shut down....
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business mah. if enter uitm, surely faculty will never shut down.
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Topkek this reminds me when I was 18 searching for college

Due to my bad results this bugima look down on me and offered me a Golf Course diploma

Telling me if want study here, this is the only course you can take

Kimakkk

Well fark you now i got degree in IT

And i heard the golf "course" got shut down too since only 2 people enrolled back then

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ May 28 2017, 07:41 AM)
Tell something we dont know..
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i cant, yet.

QUOTE(ah_suknat @ May 28 2017, 07:44 AM)
Its funny, as a student, they want to study courses that has least people go into to avoid competition in the crowded job marketplace, like IT is so crowded due to surplus of graduates and it drives the salary down.

But then courses that has little enrolment has to be shut down....
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this has always been the issue with our programme. private schools struggle to start because of the high requirements set by the board. there were other schools that had such trouble before, but it didnt get much publicity. i guess this is UNITAR, i more recognized name in the private education scene.
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“I am disappointed by the decision. I don’t think I want to continue studying here any more. I thought I had a bright future here,” she said.


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until today i'm still confused between Unirazak and Unitar?

same or different university?
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until today i'm still confused between Unirazak and Unitar?

same or different university?
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“I am disappointed by the decision. I don’t think I want to continue studying here any more. I thought I had a bright future here,” she said.
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She gotta work on her essay writing skill cause its so lame..
Bright future..in unitar ??
Please, only you decide your bright future. You dont wanna go to any uni but work and learn hard also can have bright future 😂
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QUOTE(beeMay @ May 28 2017, 09:43 AM)
She gotta work on her essay writing skill cause its so lame..
Bright future..in unitar ??
Please, only you decide your bright future. You dont wanna go to any uni but work and learn hard also can have bright future 😂
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whats wrong with that sentence? i dont see anything wrong with it.


your second sentence on the other hand... the only one here who should be working on his/her writing skill is you.

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QUOTE(party @ May 28 2017, 09:14 AM)
“I am disappointed by the decision. I don’t think I want to continue studying here any more. I thought I had a bright future here,” she said.
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theres always a bright future. gradually flex.gif
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QUOTE(wesleyktr @ May 28 2017, 10:07 AM)
whats wrong with that sentence? i dont see anything wrong with it.
your second sentence on the other hand... the only one here who should be working on his/her writing skill is you.
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Please, cant you tell that is such a lame expression of disappointment? Like, thinking that you actually belief of bright future with unitar? Man you watched too much commercials.
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QUOTE(wesleyktr @ May 28 2017, 10:07 AM)
whats wrong with that sentence? i dont see anything wrong with it.
your second sentence on the other hand... the only one here who should be working on his/her writing skill is you.
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Walao..why triggered so hard. Last i check here 100% perfect english is not mandatory in /k
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Back when I enroll short period in Management (entrepreneurship) at the KL campus, the classes were running with only 5 students, include me. I didn't like the vibe and the environment in the class.

And the class were held in KL campus, sometimes were canceled upon on arrival. Sucks to travel there to make it in time for 9am course. I couldn't cope to continue it and decide to drop out and pursue from other Uni.

I was considered to be the 2nd batch of this newly course during that time. First batch were granted full scholarships. No idea why.

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QUOTE(mafioso @ May 28 2017, 08:32 AM)
Topkek this reminds me when I was 18 searching for college

Due to my bad results this bugima look down on me and offered me a Golf Course diploma

Telling me if want study here, this is the only course you can take

Kimakkk

Well fark you now i got degree in IT

And i heard the golf "course" got shut down too since only 2 people enrolled back then

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Same problem with my cousin but his parent rich and got connection

His fail results still can masuk LAW course but end up still drop out

At least you got ur degree in IT and fark that kimak that look down on u
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QUOTE(beeMay @ May 28 2017, 10:20 AM)
Please, cant you tell that is such a lame expression of disappointment? Like, thinking that you actually belief of bright future with unitar? Man you watched too much commercials.
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he/she's not writing a book or an essay, why does he/she need some sort of perfect essay-esque sentence when a basic sentence can do the trick? also, don't be an oxymoron. you said it yourself you can have a bright future in pretty much anything you do, but somehow you mock him/her for thinking that while studying in unitar? pathetic. im not even a unitar student fyi you elitist prick.

QUOTE(party @ May 28 2017, 10:30 AM)
Walao..why triggered so hard. Last i check here 100% perfect english is not mandatory in /k
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lol no la, he sendiri x boleh construct a basic grammatically correct sentence still nak judge others for not using flashy words/beautiful sentences lmao

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he/she's not writing a book or an essay, why does he/she need some sort of perfect essay-esque sentence when a basic sentence can do the trick? also, don't be an oxymoron. you said it yourself you can have a bright future in pretty much anything you do, but somehow you mock him/her for thinking that while studying in unitar? pathetic. im not even a unitar student fyi you elitist prick.
lol no la, he sendiri x boleh construct a basic grammatically correct sentence still nak judge others for not using flashy words/beautiful sentence lmao
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QUOTE(beeMay @ May 28 2017, 10:42 AM)
Whoaa! Okaay, that girl's boyfriend..my baaad 😉
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why, can't come up with a suitable argument?


hahahaha you are exactly the problem with today's society. only good in judging others but don't necessarily have the abilities to back it up. even uitm/utar students also better then you.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 28 2017, 06:20 AM)
it's unsustainable, i guess. architecture has one of the smallest lecturer:student ratio. the board set the maximum of 1:15. compare this to most other courses that has 1:100 ratio, it's very hard to break even.
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So? Why CAAEM want to masuk campur? Profit or loss of a course itu suka hati each institution.
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QUOTE(wesleyktr @ May 28 2017, 10:45 AM)
why, can't come up with a suitable argument?
hahahaha you are exactly the problem with today's society. only good in judging others but don't necessarily have the abilities to back it up. even uitm/utar students also better then you.
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If you dont know me in this forum, I actually lazy to reply keyboard warrior that types with emotion and zero actual intellect

So..baaii 🙆
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QUOTE(beeMay @ May 28 2017, 10:55 AM)
If you dont know me in this forum, I actually lazy to reply keyboard warrior that types with emotion and zero actual intellect

So..baaii 🙆
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ni la oxymoron bodo bangang, cannot come up with a simple argument and need to resort to ad hominems and still have the face to call others "zero intellect" and "typing with emotion"


go back to your cave where you belong la hahahahaha joker
you're like a beggar calling people poor, don't even know your own position to begin with

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QUOTE(hirano @ May 28 2017, 10:51 AM)
So? Why CAAEM want to masuk campur? Profit or loss of a course itu suka hati each institution.
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because we regulate anything about architecture education. if people have any issues with a school of architecture, there are two parties that will be responsible and could take action: MOHE and LAM. and under LAM, it falls under the jurisdiction of CAAEM.

as u might be aware, we take care of our own. even if they're just 1st year architecture students.
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 28 2017, 05:45 AM)
Why stop it suddenly? Why not just stop new intakes, let the current students grad first even if it may take additional 2-3 years before they totally close the course down?

Kesian liao them. Money get refund ok, but time wasted nobody can replace
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They didn't waste any time, they got credits I think, that can be transferred, it's not like they have to start from first day.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 28 2017, 07:12 PM)
They didn't waste any time, they got credits I think, that can be transferred, it's not like they have to start from first day.
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Not all subjects can be transferred to other uni
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Not all subjects can be transferred to other uni
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Well you wouldn't know that they could have arranged a full transfer (unless you get a D or something lol smile.gif )
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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 28 2017, 07:39 PM)
Well you wouldn't know that they could have arranged a full transfer (unless you get a D or something lol smile.gif )
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My own exp of diploma in one of mara institution, to degree public uni. Bugima most cannot transfer. End up i still spent 3 years degree
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QUOTE(Keatsan @ May 28 2017, 02:35 AM)
First batch were granted full scholarships. No idea why.
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Well ofcourse is to attract students.
Must be some 3rd rated unheard of commercial block college.

Amirite
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QUOTE(mafioso @ May 28 2017, 08:32 AM)
Topkek this reminds me when I was 18 searching for college

Due to my bad results this bugima look down on me and offered me a Golf Course diploma

Telling me if want study here, this is the only course you can take

Kimakkk

Well fark you now i got degree in IT

And i heard the golf "course" got shut down too since only 2 people enrolled back then

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Wasted la u...else u can help me kutip bola while I practice my swing. Can gip u good tips too
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ May 28 2017, 07:43 PM)
Well ofcourse is to attract students.
Must be some 3rd rated unheard of commercial block college.

Amirite
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I've no idea. The idea was great, but the implementation sucks....real bad
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QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ May 28 2017, 07:47 PM)
Wasted la u...else u can help me kutip bola while I practice my swing. Can gip u good tips too
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Kimakkk today you langgar lari

Wait i lipot you to Raymond mad.gif
lorrydriverrocks
post May 28 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ May 28 2017, 07:55 PM)
Kimakkk today you langgar lari

Wait i lipot you to Raymond mad.gif
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