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post Mar 21 2007, 08:08 PM, updated 19y ago

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Guys, I am planning to get a Multi-Effect possibly before next month

So I am trying to get more reviews and feedback regarding these 2 pedals....

What do you guys think of the GT8 and AX3000G???
For Amp modelling, I know AX3000G has got very good 1...

I am not so well-versed in Multi-Effects..
I am into musics like Classic Rock, Heavy Metal, Sentimental, Alternative Rock, jRock etc.........

Would you guys tell me which u guys prefer and oso what kind of musics u guys playing
the reasons etc

Thanks in advance

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post Mar 21 2007, 08:30 PM

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imo
gt-8 has very good amp modelling as well

my vote goes to gt-8 as its newer and has more options than ax3000g
also effects from the gt-8 is really really good

im not saying ax3000g is bad though, its very good on its own.
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:37 PM

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GT-8 is hands down, better then the Korg in my view.

But instead of the GT-8, have you considered the Line6 POD XT Live?
Great modeling effects, great interface, great PC Connectivity AND upgradeable as well.
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:42 PM

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zoom G9, if your into high gain, modulation stuff...the amp models aren't bad either...
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 21 2007, 08:37 PM)
GT-8 is hands down, better then the Korg in my view.

But instead of the GT-8, have you considered the Line6 POD XT Live?
Great modeling effects, great interface, great PC Connectivity AND upgradeable as well.
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I did consider but it seems quite expensive too..

I haven't been able to try the Line6.. the price is more expensive than the GT-8 right?

I nto so sure

U guys got the price for Korg AX3000G and GT-8?
I got GT-8 for around RM1600

Korg I not sure of the price... they said is around RM1100 (less than that right?)

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post Mar 21 2007, 08:47 PM

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The POD XT should also be around the same ballpark....
Just call up CK music, ask the price, and they might be able to knock off RM100 off the sticker price.

They also have the new POD Floor and POD Floor Plus.......
almost the same amount of effects and amps, but without the PC connectivity and the upgradability.

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post Mar 21 2007, 08:48 PM

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korg is definitely cheaper

try ur luck for g9.2tt
the amp models shud sound warmer and transparent compared to the gt-8 since it has tubes
but i cant guarantee it

effects wise i remember it was pretty good too,

give a call / visit ck music
i remmeber they gave me a REALLY nice price for g9.2
1.4 i think
and that was quite awhile back
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:51 PM

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But actually I am not so much concern of Amp modelling..
of coz amp modelling will be great to me but i am more concern of the tone.. the sound...
especially Distortion tone... those are very important to me...


to me that comes first then only modelling

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post Mar 21 2007, 08:54 PM

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Ooooooooooh. Well, I didn't like the Zoom G9.2tt's distortion...... still sounded very digital. But don't forget, distortion is also part of amp modelling.......... we're not talking about distortion pedals..... we're talking about the distortion from the amps that they model.
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 21 2007, 08:51 PM)
But actually I am not so much concern of Amp modelling..
of coz amp modelling will be great to me but i am more concern of the tone.. the sound...
especially Distortion tone... those are very important to me...
to me that comes first then only modelling
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u can give the G9.2tt a try...it has quite a number of distortion/OD pedals as well as amp models in it...can get from crunchy to straight forward dirty...the modulation effects are cool, u get lust chorus, nice delays and stuff like that...but no where near line6's modulation effects...

i'm using it now, and the only complain i have is the wah...it's too weak...and yes, it's a bit digital like what blacktrix say...but for me, i can do just fine with it..

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post Mar 21 2007, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 21 2007, 08:54 PM)
Ooooooooooh. Well, I didn't like the Zoom G9.2tt's distortion...... still sounded very digital. But don't forget, distortion is also part of amp modelling.......... we're not talking about distortion pedals..... we're talking about the distortion from the amps that they model.
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Yeah infact, Zoom's distortion is the main reason why I dun wan to go for it....


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post Mar 21 2007, 09:15 PM

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Go to CK music and try out the POD units..... alot on display and if asked nicely, they will be more then willing to let you test them.

I'm using a Line6 UX2 (A guitar input unit, for recording my guitar) and the effects and amp models are based on the POD units..... and they sound VERY good.

Will be forking out USD100 to get more amps and effects.
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 21 2007, 08:51 PM)
But actually I am not so much concern of Amp modelling..
of coz amp modelling will be great to me but i am more concern of the tone.. the sound...
especially Distortion tone... those are very important to me...
to me that comes first then only modelling
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if tone is wat you're all about
then podxt/xt live is wat you're looking for
awesome amp models

btw your distortion tone will differ with each amp model
and given the quality and quantity of the models im sure you'll be able to find yours


QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 21 2007, 09:15 PM)
Go to CK music and try out the POD units..... alot on display and if asked nicely, they will be more then willing to let you test them.

I'm using a Line6 UX2 (A guitar input unit, for recording my guitar) and the effects and amp models are based on the POD units..... and they sound VERY good.

Will be forking out USD100 to get more amps and effects.
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ck music has always been more than happy to let u try their stuff
its my fav shop as the customer service is the best i've EVER experienced
it too bad that they don't carry much stuff that i want


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post Mar 21 2007, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Mar 21 2007, 09:22 PM)
if tone is wat your all about
then podxt/xt live is wat you're looking for
awesome amp models

btw your distortion tone will differ with each amp model
and given the quality and quantity of the models im sure you'll be able to find yours
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So in comparions.. most of you think it could beat a GT8 ???? errr i mean based on u guys preferance.. all that.....

Look tempting.. so it won't sounds very digital?
coz Line6 stuffs to me always sound very digital.. like its amp.. Line6 Spider... sounds very digital to me....
juz to have a clearer picture.. smile.gif
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The only way you're going to find out is if you go there and test it out for yourself.
Simple as that.
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post Mar 21 2007, 09:36 PM

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the spider serie sounds horrible to be honest

i tried a line6 flextone III and it sounded really good

just go try it out urself
u wud know the answer then =]

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I'm using the AX3000g right now. personally, the amps modulation is okay but its lacking one thing! there is one knob for amp and stombox only, which means let say if you want to use distortion from an amp model with let say a fuzz pedal(one of my favourite settings in toneport for solos), you cant!. and you dont have much of high gain amp models to play around with(only the metal settings sounded good for me). I usually play using A LOT of distortions, thus AX3000g limits me from playing around with it. it is cheaper though(the main reason why i bought it!). yawn.gif

So for me, if you have the dough, go for the GT-8, but personally i would rather have pod xt live as i've been using the toneport and it sounded excellent! rclxms.gif

as for how digital the sound is, I personally think that the ax3000g sounded quite good and 'warm'. i do have the cheaper zoom 505II which does sound digitally horrible. dont know about other multieffects as i dont have anybody near me who have a gt-8 or pod xt live.

(and again, this is my personal opinion, like what other people say, take your time to test the effects personally. one might suits you best thatn the other. let say if the factory patches is horrible try to play around with individual settings as you can get great sound from even the 'cheap ax3000g' if you play around long enough nod.gif nod.gif

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Yup. Using the Toneport from my UX2...... can get everything from a tight crunch, to some heavy bad @$$ distortion and everything in between.
The cleans are really good too.
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the gearbox software is truly a killer! unfortunately, the default amount of effects is not that much, personally. but the generous amount of amp models and cabs gives me plenty of option to play around with.
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both gt8 and line6 podxt live cost about the same which is rm16xx.

i duno how many times ive posted comparisons between the 2 already. go search the forums. to sum it up,

for amp modelling,
podxt live>gt8

for effects (both quantity, quality and parameter changes),
gt8>podxt live

so it depends on what kind of player you are. also, tweaking the gt8 to get the BEST tone out of it will take a super long time and also some experience with effects.
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GT-8 good models, good tone, if you're using a good amp then you won't use the amp models. . . the models are good if you connect direct to a PA for performance or if you do recording into your pc. . .

just don't feel sad if a GT-9 coems out. . . xD technology is so fast nowadays. . .
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i don't like the GT-8 ODs and amp models. The OD modellers sound like they are runned through an expander and are dynamically very dead (eg playing hard just sounds like a volume boost and nothing more). And you can hear the typical sharp rough SS OD characteristics. But for effects like chorus, flanger, etc the GT-8 is really good. Definitely gives you flexibility and nothing much to complain about.

Can't really compare it with the KORG or the POD as i havent tried both of them before. But if you're going for tone, i would save the 1k++ and abit (...actually alot) more for a tube combo. Or using a software modeller is cheaper. Like i said I don't know about Line6 stuff but Native Instruments guitar rig 2 is an interesting piece of software. It comes with a foot controller with a built in sound card so you can connect directly into your PA/computer/wherever.

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again, korg technology is what is used for the modelling found in the vox valvetronix amps.
so i would say its pretty good.

if all you care about is good distortion, why not just get an amp?
paying all that money for a multi-fx when you will only utilize 10% of it is a serious waste.
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True. A decent Vox AD30vt will be less then RM1.4k.
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 21 2007, 11:20 PM)
True. A decent Vox AD30vt will be less then RM1.4k.
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wow
thats some overpriced vox
i got mine at 800 lol =p
jk
i get your point

@bassix
ah yes, that i agree very much
it isnt dynamic until you "make" it dynamic, the dynamic picking setting lol
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 21 2007, 11:18 PM)
again, korg technology is what is used for the modelling found in the vox valvetronix amps.
so i would say its pretty good.

if all you care about is good distortion, why not just get an amp?
paying all that money for a multi-fx when you will only utilize 10% of it is a serious waste.
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I wanna explore more effects.. I will try to use more effects and one thing is.. I don't want the need to play with other effects sacrifices my main effect which is the distortion....
I do not want to invest in Stompbox anymore as it will costs me more and more and since I have the budget now. I feel it is time to go for a GT8...
I have tried GT6 sounds all and it sounds nice.
GT8 I have seen alot of people using them and it still sounds good. Just not sure some people prefer the older GT6 instead of the GT8. I have no idea on this anyway

I currently owning a Laney MXD120.. actually... overall it suits my likings.. and the price is quite affordable

I juz sold off my stompboxes only left MD-2 available.. so I guess I have decided to purchase a multi-effect.. Just would like to know more and understand more from all of you guys who are more well-versed in these effects. Hopefully I will be able to understand it and then at last try them myself and make a final decision.

All the comments and advises will help me achieve a better decision. Hehe

Thanks in Advance..

Of coz.. still wish to welcome more comments and arguments about the multi-effects..

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Well, you can get the GT8. OD patches are abit dry for my taste, but I think it has marvellous effects. And then start saving again for an amp for your OD tone. If you want good tone you have to be prepared to pay for it. Unfortunately that's the way it goes sad.gif

Besides, you can always get an OD pedal for your distortion and use the GT8 as purely FX. I never liked OD pedals but it's definitely alot cheaper than an amp. The GT8 fuzz patches however are useful for recording if you are into fuzz and heavy distortion. I actually used it on my fretless bass once and quite liked it. Perfect for techno-ish electronic stuff. biggrin.gif
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I've never tried the Korg or the PodXT. But you can get good tone from the GT-8... if you have the patience.

The learning curve can be quite bloody steep - so many parameters which can be tweaked, and which have to be tweaked in order to get good tone. The GT-8's "tweakability" is second to none in that price range and that's a blessing or a curse, depending on what you're looking for. GT-8 = plug and pray.

Pod can be upgraded, no doubt, with all those extra FX, amp models etc. But it ain't free... IIRC, USD50-100 for each upgrade pack.

GT-8 on the other hand allows you to insert external pedals into your FX chain - h3ll, you could probably stick the Pod in the GT-8 fx chain and use the Pod just for the amp modelling... laugh.gif
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Speaking of which, I'm BLOODY happy with my ToneLab SE to get the 80s metal crunch I so desperately seek. No upgradability, but has MIDI In/Out to use the unit as a controller AND FX loop as well.

It has the best distortions in my book, partially because it uses a 12AX7 tube to get the warmth of the distortions. The JCM800 sounds KILLER with my ZW-44 Overdrive hooked to the FX Loop.

Unfortunately, Vox is discontinuing this amazing device according to CK music. HOWEVER, they ARE adding the ToneLab LE to their lineup, a smaller version of the SE WITH Tube as well. Check it out for yourself and give CK Music a call to see when they are bringing it in.

I bought my ToneLab SE for RM1100 (But that was because they were having sales, original price at RM1800). I'm sure the ToneLab LE Should be priced lower then the SE.

More info on the ToneLab LE here: http://www.voxamps.co.uk/tonelab/tonelab_le.asp
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Mar 22 2007, 10:55 AM)
I've never tried the Korg or the PodXT. But you can get good tone from the GT-8... if you have the patience.

The learning curve can be quite bloody steep - so many parameters which can be tweaked, and which have to be tweaked in order to get good tone. The GT-8's "tweakability" is second to none in that price range and that's a blessing or a curse, depending on what you're looking for. GT-8 = plug and pray.

Pod can be upgraded, no doubt, with all those extra FX, amp models etc. But it ain't free... IIRC, USD50-100 for each upgrade pack.

GT-8 on the other hand allows you to insert external pedals into your FX chain - h3ll, you could probably stick the Pod in the GT-8 fx chain and use the Pod just for the amp modelling...  laugh.gif
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i've seen ppl doing that during a gig...using the POD as the modeller and the GT-8 for fx...the result is awesome...bringing the best out of the 2...
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The best of both worlds, yup. But it's not really cost-effective or practical since you won't be using the GT-8's amp modellers or the Pod's FX - and it'll be bloody bulky to carry around and a complete headache to set-up... laugh.gif

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......unless of course you have a roadie. tongue.gif
Hey, I mean, if you afford a GT-8 and a POD XT, you should be able to fork out some cash for a roadie......
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Not all of us are as fortunate as you to have roadies... tongue.gif
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Actually, he's my friend who owes me a favor and wants to jam as well...... and since I don't gig, I don't need a "roadie" often.
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 22 2007, 03:04 PM)
Actually, he's my friend who owes me a favor and wants to jam as well...... and since I don't gig, I don't need a "roadie" often.
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davidlow7':
You're running through a Laney MXD120? That's the successor to the Hardcore Max right?

When jamming, I usually hook up my GT-8 through a Laney Hardcore Max half or full stack. It's not exactly transparent, but you can get some nice heavy tones from that combination. Not sure about the Korg though...
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if your budget is lower maybe you can look at the BOSS ME-5? its a smaller version and it's quite good. . .

Any GT-6 users here?
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Hmmm, actually getting a 2nd hand GT-6 wouldn't be such a bad idea. They go for sub-RM1,000 now and is not much different than the GT-8.


QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 22 2007, 04:00 PM)
Any GT-6 users here?
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Valkyrie's got one. He bought it off a local Eastern Melodic Metal guitarist... biggrin.gif

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Yeah
Getting a 2nd hand GT6 wouldn't be a bad idea but just can't find 1 at the moment. When people are selling, I have no budget. When I have the budget, nobody is selling. *sad*

I have gone to some Music Shops to order GT8. They don't have stock available and they called alot of their suppliers and they said Malaysia are now short of supply. Unless there are some shops who happened to keep them....
They called Bentley and Do Re Mi.. even them also don't have stocks and they claim that there are alot of people now ordering and not so sure next month you will get the stock or not. But 80% should have..

Another sad case for me...
So they recommended me a POD XT LIVE....
But I can't test them... It is abit hard for me to go KL just to test it personally.. haizzzz
too bad... I guess I may juz have to wait..

But surprisingly.. POD XT Live.. I found it less than RM1600 after discount

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really? wanna ask about a few things on the 6. . . like how to actually work the damn sound on sound. . . and a few other tweak stuff =( so damn complicated. . .
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 22 2007, 05:38 PM)
Yeah
Getting a 2nd hand GT6 wouldn't be a bad idea but just can't find 1 at the moment. When people are selling, I have no budget. When I have the budget, nobody is selling. *sad*

I have gone to some Music Shops to order GT8. They don't have stock available and they called alot of their suppliers and they said Malaysia are now short of supply. Unless there are some shops who happened to keep them....
They called Bentley and Do Re Mi.. even them also don't have stocks and they claim that there are alot of people now ordering and not so sure next month you will get the stock or not. But 80% should have..

Another sad case for me...
So they recommended me a POD XT LIVE....
But I can't test them... It is abit hard for me to go KL just to test it personally.. haizzzz
too bad... I guess I may juz have to wait..

But surprisingly.. POD XT Live.. I found it less than RM1600 after discount
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where do you stay?
public transport ftw biggrin.gif
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Try looking at the other forums (no names mentioned!)... wink.gif


QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 22 2007, 05:39 PM)
really? wanna ask about a few things on the 6. . . like how to actually work the damn sound on sound. . . and a few other tweak stuff =( so damn complicated. . .
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"sound on sound"? the Hold delay is it?

Yeah, and the learning curve is about as steep as the GT-8.. pretty much same interface with minor differences. Have you checked out bossgtcentral? ... a lot of good stuff there, very friendly and helpful forumites too. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Mar 22 2007, 05:51 PM)
where do you stay?
public transport ftw biggrin.gif
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Malacca.. shakehead.gif
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i think you should go for ME-50 ,

you don't need the GT amp modeling..

then, go for a SANS AMP TRI AC ..

or you can always buy a BOSS GP-20 from me

http://www.amptone.com/bossgp20ampfactory.htm

RM380 ..interested tongue.gif


ever consider POD pro ?
i used to own a PODxt live , sold it off within 3 months
what i didn't like about it , is you look like a guitar nerd carrying the big ass/heavy pedal around to your gig..
smaller looks cooler smile.gif

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POD pro is gona cost him a bomb.

the sansamp tri AC sure is good.

im a gt8 user too but for amp modelling i have a behringer lx1 pro rack in my loop to handle that. so if u think sticking a podxt into the gt8 is troublesome, my setup is even more troublesome. lol. at least the podxt (bean) is small.
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yea. . . well i kinda second gapnap. . . i own a GT-6 and i hardly use the preamps cause i prefer the tone of my original amp. . . if you have a good amp chances are you won't really like the amp models. . . it's jsut to plasticky and artificial, like it's forced. . . i know a few pro's who use the ME-50 and they really stick to it =D less complicated
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 22 2007, 06:12 PM)
Malacca..  shakehead.gif
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ouch
now that would be a problem
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@rustreaver
yeah i think gt-8 needs alot of tweaking to get a real nice sound [i did try to use my friends gt-8, boy i almost pulled off all my hair lol]
tho some of default patches are good on their own

@gapnap
how does the behringer copy compare to the real thing [sansamp tri ac] ?
i tried the behringer before
thru monitors though

apart from its lack of warmth it can sound pretty good =p
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hey Echo ..

i am sorry..not POD PRO..

i mean..POD PLUS typo error

hey Equilibrium777

recently i just bought a BOSS ME-50 ...

so far i am very satisfied with their Tube screamer an blues driver mod ..

hey Sean392

i never tried the behringer sans amp tri AC , not sure whether they have one..i thought they moded GT-2

besides that , the only pedal i will buy from behringer..probably chromatic tuner / power supply... laugh.gif their packaging looks like power rangers toy for me .. biggrin.gif
well don't take in a different way cause i can be quite materialistic when it comes to gears tongue.gif

The truth is i don't owned a sans amp TRI AC ...

but i do have a sans amp TRI OD (discontinued) ...i read from the net the Tri AC has slightly lower gain than TRI OD

anyway , from the moment i tried the SANS AMP TRI OD ..i sold my PODxt live straight away and never look back at digital modelling ...until recently lar i just got bored tongue.gif

If you are curious about the tone

http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/bands/1525/music.php

click on "warve demo" ..its from a sans amp tri OD marshall mode (British)
definitely your thing if you are into "warm creamy" tone..

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the behringer apparently has more gain than the sansamp GT-2.
i wont mind trying one too, RM150+ brand new right?
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if u've never tried out sansamp products, you MUST test it. go to js music and ask to test. u'll be surprised how good it is. i wouldnt mind getting one and hook it into my GT8 loop to *gasp* replace my rack unit.

akeiser owns a discontinued tech21 amp that has 3 amp 'modelling' (smth along the lines or architechtured analigue modelling thingy) which models the fender, marshall and mesa. it sounds hell really good. beats his podxt live flat out (except for the amount of choices).
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Mar 22 2007, 07:29 PM)
if u've never tried out sansamp products, you MUST test it. go to js music and ask to test. u'll be surprised how good it is. i wouldnt mind getting one and hook it into my GT8 loop to *gasp* replace my rack unit.

akeiser owns a discontinued tech21 amp that has 3 amp 'modelling' (smth along the lines or architechtured analigue modelling thingy) which models the fender, marshall and mesa. it sounds hell really good. beats his podxt live flat out (except for the amount of choices).
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really?
dang
sounds killer then

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yeah bout there

@gapnap
not only the packaging
the unit itself is like toys =p
tho i do own a behringer eq pedal =p
the sansamp copy is much better built tho
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i had the original sansamp, before they stuck the classic wording on it.
didnt like it, not enough gain for my tastes.


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juz went thru another multi-effect which is the Digitech GNX 3..

So u guys got any ideas on this little baby machine?
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means what? now you're gonna expand your topic to 4 items?
when is it gonna end? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2007, 07:37 PM)
i had the original sansamp, before they stuck the classic wording on it.
didnt like it, not enough gain for my tastes.
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you would go for gain over dynamics and realism? tongue.gif
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if i want realism, i would have a marshall half stack in my room now.
and who said you cant have dynamics with high gain?

anyway, why drive a sim when you can have the real thing?

btw, i've always hated digitech since they were known as DoD, even tho they might be good now.
their quality then SUX, kinda like behringer now.
guess old habits die hard.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2007, 07:39 PM)
means what? now you're gonna expand your topic to 4 items?
when is it gonna end? tongue.gif
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it'll end when the hammer of doom becomes a flower in bloom... thumbup.gif

seriously though, there's a pretty good comparison article on thestompbox.net (sp?) which reviews everything about the 4 main MFXs: PodXT Live, Boss GT-8, the GNX and the Tonelabs. The guy compares everything from amp modelling tone, effects, connectivity, tweakability etc. thumbup.gif

and hey, gapnap, when are we going for some baku-... errr... herbal soup? wink.gif


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2007, 07:39 PM)
means what? now you're gonna expand your topic to 4 items?
when is it gonna end? tongue.gif
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Hehe coz I just get to find out

I don't want to limit myself just from 1 or 2 or even 3...

Since I am not a rich persons.. I can only choose 1 and sacrifice the others.. so I hope to make a good choice of it... and even given the opportunity to test it myself.. I would still love to understand more of these babies.. tongue.gif
hehe I hope you guys don't mind blush.gif
sometimes maybe not in term of sound but oso about others which I may not being able to read or find out.. hehehe so u guys' words can mean alot to me and also the fellow musicians here.. biggrin.gif

hopefully all these advices, recommendation and opinions will help our fellow musicians if they happened to have the same dilemma as me.

I just heard about GNX3 from a friend.. so juz would like to know mroe although i am reading reviews online at the same time. juz wish to know more..

thx smile.gif
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i say just go straight for the boss.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2007, 08:34 PM)
i say just go straight for the boss.
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Something in my mind too
now Malaysia dun have stock
my friend is in Singapore now and coming in few days time
I am planning to ask her check for me..... but I have checked Swee Lee's price... .. it seems the price after convertion is RM1.9k.. emmm I am not sure how much less they can give too.... anyone has got any idea?

and i guess if she takes out the box and juz bring it here.. shouldn't be taxed right?

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 22 2007, 05:39 PM)
really? wanna ask about a few things on the 6. . . like how to actually work the damn sound on sound. . . and a few other tweak stuff =( so damn complicated. . .
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Haha, seriously that's some advanced shiet you talking about that dude!
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I have personally tested almost all new digitech models personally (got a shop in denmark street selling digitech stuff), though not as thorough as you could get (the shop keeper give the 'eye' after about 15 minutes). The modelling is ok and quite some good high gains models. the artist series is crap to my personal liking(sound horrible). the name implies digital but you can get good tones out of it. still, i played through a headphones thus i dont know how it will react to amps or direct PA. i heard you can get more parameters to tweak for amp and cabs modelling.


Still, I reccomend pod xt live again. they have a new version 3 update which gives you more free amp model! yay...

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 22 2007, 08:32 PM)
Hehe coz I just get to find out

I don't want to limit myself just from 1 or 2 or even 3...

Since I am not a rich persons.. I can only choose 1 and sacrifice the others.. so I hope to make a good choice of it... and even given the opportunity to test it myself.. I would still love to understand more of these babies.. tongue.gif
hehe I hope you guys don't mind  blush.gif
sometimes maybe not in term of sound but oso about others which I may not being able to read or find out.. hehehe so u guys' words can mean alot to me and also the fellow musicians here.. biggrin.gif

hopefully all these advices, recommendation and opinions will help our fellow musicians if they happened to have the same dilemma as me.

I just heard about GNX3 from a friend.. so juz would like to know mroe although i am reading reviews online at the same time. juz wish to know more..

thx smile.gif
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Seriously, go for the GT-8. There may not be upgrades, etc. like the XT Live, but the fact that it has its own effects loop means you can "upgrade" with new pedals etc... maybe the sansamp like gapnap et al say.

And many people have been selling and are selling GT-8 second hand, so you may want to keep an eye out for it...

And if the RM1.9k is in reference to GT-8, no way... that is way way overpriced...
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Mar 23 2007, 10:52 AM)
Seriously, go for the GT-8. There may not be upgrades, etc. like the XT Live, but the fact that it has its own effects loop means you can "upgrade" with new pedals etc... maybe the sansamp like gapnap et al say.

And many people have been selling and are selling GT-8 second hand, so you may want to keep an eye out for it...

And if the RM1.9k is in reference to GT-8, no way... that is way way overpriced...
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Yeah... I juz got the latest price from Swee Lee.. the best price is S$D 787.50... Convert back to RM is far more expensive..... Ish.. sad...

Some ppl selling their GT8 but the price isn't fit the price of the 2nd hand. No offence to them but RM1400 for most of the 2nd hand used over 1 year and yet a new one just costs RM1600. I understand they bought it much higher than RM1600 during that time but everthing also have to follow market price.

Now I am just biting my luck and hoping to find any shop have any stock left on the GT-8. Seems they are all out of stock. Short of Supply

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yea. its wierd .

why is it Malaysia can sell for 1550 new , much lower than singapore

Rust river : you so busy , how i know your schedule lar ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(gapnap @ Mar 23 2007, 01:17 PM)
yea. its wierd .

why is it Malaysia can sell for 1550 new , much lower than singapore

Rust river : you so busy , how i know your schedule lar ? smile.gif
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1550 new??? dude... where u got the price from??? brows.gif
But as I know... they are earning on percentage... and most of them usually give customer a 15% discount....
Maybe their earning is only 5% after the discount

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Last time could get for RM1500 new... I think Bents also was selling around that price. And it wasn't old stock either because the GT-8 came with the latest firmware version (1.03 at that time)...

Price difference could be because our distributor here got a better deal than the one in Singapore...



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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Mar 23 2007, 01:49 PM)
Last time could get for RM1500 new... I think Bents also was selling around that price. And it wasn't old stock either because the GT-8 came with the latest firmware version (1.03 at that time)...

Price difference could be because our distributor here got a better deal than the one in Singapore...
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maybe .. too bad now it is out of stocks.. I called Woh Fatt and they dun have any stocks left too
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hey

http://mightymusic.com.my/boss_promo.htm

whoops..sorry not 1550..1530 tongue.gif
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mighty music hasnt updated their site since august last yr tongue.gif
i doubt they got stock also since they take from bentley.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 23 2007, 04:16 PM)
mighty music hasnt updated their site since august last yr tongue.gif
i doubt they got stock also since they take from bentley.
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they dun have

I called them up oredi

WORST news is.....he told me... Estimated 2 Months needed for the new batch of stocks

Have a question to ask

if I buy from ebay... U.S stuffs
Can I use it here? coz their AC is 110v and Malaysia uses 220V...

so it is just only changing the adapter or.. there is anything can direct set on the effects?



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QUOTE(gapnap @ Mar 23 2007, 04:14 PM)
hey

http://mightymusic.com.my/boss_promo.htm

whoops..sorry not 1550..1530  tongue.gif
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ok, since gapnap let the cat out of the bag... I got mine from Mighty Music last year for RM1500... that was the promo then... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 23 2007, 09:35 AM)
they dun have

I called them up oredi

WORST news is.....he told me... Estimated 2 Months needed for the new batch of stocks

Have a question to ask

if I buy from ebay... U.S stuffs
Can I use it here? coz their AC is 110v and Malaysia uses 220V...

so it is just only changing the adapter or.. there is anything can direct set on the effects?
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it's just the adapter. The frequency is also different if i'm not mistaken, but 10 Hz difference should cause any big difference. If anything affects the effects, you can try to get a stabiliser for your power supply, the same type you use for your computer.
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hey dude

i just went to guitar store in damansara perdana today


they still have a GT-8 display unit for sale..

ask for more discount ..

all the best
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QUOTE(gapnap @ Mar 28 2007, 03:50 PM)
hey dude

i just went to guitar store in damansara perdana today
they still have a GT-8 display unit for sale..

ask for more discount ..

all the best
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thx bro.. didn't notice ur mssg. hehehe.. but thx alot
i will go find out tmr.. ..


Added on April 10, 2007, 3:24 pmHey guys.. Juz wanna find out.. how is GT6 compare to GT8??? I know some people prefer the old GT6 over the GT8 but dun really know the reasons why
maybe some of u guys can enlighten me a little?

thx

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Apr 2 2007, 10:20 PM)
thx bro.. didn't notice ur mssg. hehehe.. but thx alot
i will go find out tmr.. ..


Added on April 10, 2007, 3:24 pmHey guys.. Juz wanna find out.. how is GT6 compare to GT8??? I know some people prefer the old GT6 over the GT8 but dun really know the reasons why
maybe some of u guys can enlighten me a little?

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like korg1500g is better than ax3000...




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QUOTE(moskau12 @ Aug 22 2007, 04:09 PM)
like korg1500g is better than ax3000...
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mind telling me why?
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question solved. haha. tongue.gif

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damm ..im also in dilema to get which multi effect between the GT-8 and PODxt live .. gt-8 bents rm 15xx .. podxt rm 18xx ..rm300 difrents and the pod can be upgraded through a software.. sigh *~
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The PODxt LIVE is RM1,500.
The list price is RM1,800, but you can bargain till around RM1,500~1,550.

What is troubling your decision anyway? Is it the tone of them? Or other reasons?

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wah 1800 discount till 1500? notworthy.gif

btw rossie u using pod rite? may i noe wat material is pod built?
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im playing all types of music but mostly distortions and some jazz flow.. im not quite sure what suits for me ..im just a noob starter for a multieffect pedals.. i feels like wanna grab out the PODxt live but many people suggest shud go for a GT-8 ..
wanna do my survey before i ended up regret picking the wrong one..
any PODxt user here ? tongue.gif
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i think discussed lots of times already between gt-8 and pod.

gt-8 of cos sounds better, but you need lots and lots of patience to mess around with it to get a good sound.
pod is easier to use out of the box.

im no longer a fan of multi-fx, but if i really had to choose one now it'll be the boss ME-50.
has just enough pedals on it that i would use, and so i dont have to tap dance everywhere, and its much much easier to use than the GT-8.
of cos there is no amp-modelling in that, but do you really need that?

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wah 1800 discount till 1500?  notworthy.gif

btw rossie u using pod rite? may i noe wat material is pod built?
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You mean the chassis?
It's metal. Zoom is plactic, GT8 is metal too.

The beauty of GT8 and PODxt LIVE is they have preamps, so you can record directly into your PC with it, nothing else. Well... a good soundcard helps a lot though.


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im playing all types of music but mostly distortions and some jazz flow.. im not quite sure what suits for me ..im just a noob starter for a multieffect pedals.. i feels like wanna grab out the PODxt live but many people suggest shud go for a GT-8 ..
wanna do my survey before i ended up regret picking the wrong one..
any PODxt user here ? tongue.gif
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I would gladly send you some PODxt LIVE clips if that will help in making your decision.

But could you hold up for another one or two months?
The next generation of the PODxt LIVE will be released next month, I know because I've seen the new price list from the dealer biggrin.gif
It's called the X3.

I think just wait for it, and then only choose which one you want. It is still very affordable.

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Aug 27 2007, 01:21 PM)
You mean the chassis?
It's metal. Zoom is plactic, GT8 is metal too.

The beauty of GT8 and PODxt LIVE is they have preamps, so you can record directly into your PC with it, nothing else. Well... a good soundcard helps a lot though.
so u jsut plug ur pod into a PA? no amp used?
u urself got an amp not?
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Nope. I've been amp-less for a few years now...
I practice with my PODxt LIVE into my laptop, and with a software metronome or with WMP, so everything can be heard through my headphones.

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Aug 27 2007, 02:05 PM)
Nope. I've been amp-less for a few years now...
I practice with my PODxt LIVE into my laptop, and with a software metronome or with WMP, so everything can be heard through my headphones.
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Aug 27 2007, 01:21 PM)

Added on August 27, 2007, 1:24 pm

I would gladly send you some PODxt LIVE clips if that will help in making your decision.

But could you hold up for another one or two months?
The next generation of the PODxt LIVE will be released next month, I know because I've seen the new price list from the dealer biggrin.gif
It's called the X3.

I think just wait for it, and then only choose which one you want. It is still very affordable.
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thanx for the great info Rossie !! thumbup.gif
X3 ? hopefully it will be a great pedal to come out with !!
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tried the gt-8 and also the korg and the pod, i prefer gt-8 more versatile tho. but u need a decent amp to make it sound really good
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Ok, here goes, I've tried all three effects and I own a Korg AX3000G, if you're looking for the best value around it's of course going to be the AX3000G, the GT8 while slightly more expensive has the versatility and it's a good metal sounding effect, if you're into Blues and 70's rock you wanna go for the AX, the thing is though, while I praise the AX, the AX doesn't have the versatility of the GT8, being newer than the AX, the GT8 gives u a lot more options, but if you've got the cash, I saw someone selling a Digitech GNX4 on Jamtank for around RM1500, and I think that would be your best bet, while I haven't tried this unit personally, from the reviews it seems like a great unit. The GNX4 comes with a built in XLR input and you can record directly into the GNX via it's 8 track recorder but the drawback it's stored in Compact Flash form. The Pod XTlive one the other hand, has great tone, and if you want to go for something that got great tone, you wanna go for the Line 6 products, their tones are unbeatable. Even their early editions like the POD and the POD 2.0 sound awesome. But at the end of the day you're running top notch effects with a really crappy sound you're gonna get really crappy sounds. So my advice is, invest in a good amp, a good guitar with decent sounding p/ups and then go for the multieffects. Just my 2cents.

Cheers;
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i'm a proud owner of a gt-8. haven't tried any other MFX, so cannot give my review. for sure bias one....

i'm a member at thestompbox.net (for general MFX enthusiasts) and bossgtcentral (for Boss GT users - GT-8, GT-6 etc). there are tonnes of useful info there. if u r into MFX, i highly recommend these 2 sites.

anyway, since this thread is like a Battle of the MFX, i guess the following review is the best UNBIASED article u can get to judge and decide which one is THE ONE - FOR U!!! coz there is no winner. The battle is between Behringer V-Amp Pro, Boss GT-8, Digitech GNX3000, Line 6 POD XT Live (w/all Model Packs), Vox ToneLab SE and Zoom G9.2tt:

MFX SHOOT-OUT!!!

Cheers!
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post Sep 3 2007, 02:52 PM

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I guess recorded clips by us users are better to judge the tone/functions of the MFXs... Those clips on Roland/Boss/Line 6/Zoom website, foiyo, use super equipment to record, and most likely eq-ed in the video editing stage... A raw recording of the MFX by amateurs (us forumites) would be a nicer choice thumbup.gif
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post Sep 3 2007, 02:58 PM

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yalo..... i oso wanna listen to those clips by forumers....

btw, the MFX doesn't have the Korg AX3000 blush.gif
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post Sep 3 2007, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Sep 3 2007, 02:52 PM)
I guess recorded clips by us users are better to judge the tone/functions of the MFXs... Those clips on Roland/Boss/Line 6/Zoom website, foiyo, use super equipment to record, and most likely eq-ed in the video editing stage... A raw recording of the MFX by amateurs (us forumites) would be a nicer choice thumbup.gif
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+1. I second the motion rclxms.gif


Added on September 3, 2007, 3:51 pm
QUOTE(enteryourusername @ Sep 3 2007, 02:58 PM)
btw, the MFX doesn't have the Korg AX3000  blush.gif
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that's a clear sign that AX3000 belongs to different league. u know what i mean? brows.gif


This post has been edited by opfish: Sep 3 2007, 03:51 PM
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post Sep 5 2007, 02:02 AM

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new vox tonelab LE has released.
any1 tried before? arrived in malaysia yet? brows.gif
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post Sep 5 2007, 03:00 PM

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Long time arrived. Demo unit available at CK Music.

I'm using the Tonelab SE, which is just a bigger version of the LE (Ie: An additional expression pedal)......
The sounds are VERY good, and the amp models are excellent......
But they don't have alot of effects to play with and their pitch shifter...... put it this way, I had to buy a Digitech Whammy just for that.......
Also didn't like the fact that the overdrive and wah are in the same group, so you can't have both of them at the same time (again, I use a ZW-44 Overdrive and a Wylde Wah seperate, so not an issue for me)...... but the Amp distortions can be used with the wah and they sound great.

But I have to say again...... the sounds and models are VERY good....... The JCM800 sound, with enough tweaking sounds very convincing......

Will TRY to post some samples after my internship is over to give you some idea.


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post Sep 5 2007, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 5 2007, 03:00 PM)
Long time arrived. Demo unit available at CK Music.

I'm using the Tonelab SE, which is just a bigger version of the LE (Ie: An additional expression pedal)......
The sounds are VERY good, and the amp models are excellent......
But they don't have alot of effects to play with and their pitch shifter...... put it this way, I had to buy a Digitech Whammy just for that.......
Also didn't like the fact that the overdrive and wah are in the same group, so you can't have both of them at the same time (again, I use a ZW-44 Overdrive and a Wylde Wah seperate, so not an issue for me)...... but the Amp distortions can be used with the wah and they sound great.

But I have to say again...... the sounds and models are VERY good....... The JCM800 sound, with enough tweaking sounds very convincing......

Will TRY to post some samples after my internship is over to give you some idea.
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ok. i'm outdated -.-
the overdrive cant be used with the wah? hmm.gif tat's..... ouch doh.gif
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post Jun 29 2008, 03:06 AM

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id go for the pod xt

if u get gt-8 need tube some more for recording

i mean the pod xt got usb interface
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post Aug 31 2008, 03:19 AM

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i don't know whether the original poster has already got this multi-FX..

wonder which one he choose?

the versatility of Pod XTL.. plus can jam without amp - just plug it to usb port of your laptop.. then you can already jam..

practise or recording ur playing.. with any sequencer software.. or multi tracking software..!

what better way to learn your guitar other than recording ur play and hearing it back?



 

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