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TSshinchan99
post May 25 2017, 08:59 AM, updated 9y ago

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Hi all,

I want to find the best and lasting easily available at hardware shop for stop cork valve used at bathroom to control the incoming and outgoing water flow from the reserve tank..

Anyone can share?
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post May 25 2017, 09:11 AM

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there are no such thing as best and lasting. Any stop cork will have a piece of rubber in it and after times it will wear out and needs to be changed.
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post May 25 2017, 09:15 AM

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Which type would be best suitable? Brass ? Plastic ? Any other materials?

The common one found are brass and plastic type but i find the plastic type tends to be more durable? Of course not those low graded stop cork plastic type..


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post May 25 2017, 09:17 AM

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Brass, and with rubber stopper. Ceramic that turn 1/4 round will not last.
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post May 25 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ May 25 2017, 09:11 AM)
there are no such thing as best and lasting. Any stop cork will have a piece of rubber in it and after times it will wear out and needs to be changed.
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The old/traditional stop valve using internal rubber stopper are much more reliable. Ceramic are not lasting.
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post May 25 2017, 09:25 AM

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This type you mean?

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post May 25 2017, 09:29 AM

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yes but any type as well runs on the same theory. They will need a piece of rubber in there to stop the water from flowing when you turn it off. If its metal to metal its never going to create the seal affect
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post May 25 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ May 25 2017, 09:29 AM)
yes but any type as well runs on the same theory. They will need a piece of rubber in there to stop the water from flowing when you turn it off. If its metal to metal its never going to create the seal affect
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Not all using rubber now, some are using ceramic disc. Any small particle in the water if hit the ceramic may damage the disc.
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post May 25 2017, 12:16 PM

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Use ball valve. Last very very long.

And don't buy the cheap wan.
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post May 25 2017, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 25 2017, 12:16 PM)
Use ball valve. Last very very long.

And don't buy the cheap wan.
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This type?

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post May 25 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 25 2017, 12:22 PM)
This type?

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yup
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post May 25 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 25 2017, 12:16 PM)
Use ball valve. Last very very long.

And don't buy the cheap wan.
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I find the ball valve sometime can jammed especially not turned for sometime.
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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 12:24 PM)
I find the ball valve sometime can jammed especially not turned for sometime.
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Depends on the quality. Stainless steel got different grade. Maybe that one of your was using the one than can have surface corrosion
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post May 25 2017, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 12:24 PM)
I find the ball valve sometime can jammed especially not turned for sometime.
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Just don't get the cheap wan. Or plastic type.

My water tank all use ball valve. Rain and shine and rarely use it. No leak or jam at all.


Ball valve no rubber or anything to replace.
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post May 25 2017, 12:37 PM

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I got the good quality type, maybe is the exposure to the outdoor, it need extra strength to turn it after sometime not use. After that is ok.
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post May 25 2017, 12:38 PM

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For exposed Indoor use, ball valve will not be nice (I have not see any nice ball valve)
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post May 25 2017, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 12:37 PM)
I got the good quality type, maybe is the exposure to the outdoor, it need extra strength  to turn it after sometime not use. After that is ok.
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Expose it rain and shine. The tap also ball type. This setup been 20yrs.

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post May 25 2017, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 12:38 PM)
For exposed Indoor use, ball valve will not be nice (I have not see any nice ball valve)
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Yes, have in the market.

It is because of the handle design very industrial look. If hide away the stop cork, than doesn't matter. If not, have to find a nice wan.

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post May 25 2017, 12:57 PM

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To me cosmetic not that important ..

What is most important is durable and gives no problem ..

I have both plastic type and rubber type now both giving problem leaking hence need to change..

I've the ball type on my washing machine there and one at beside my WC (to use to wash buttock) and find them rather very solid built..


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post May 25 2017, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 25 2017, 12:47 PM)
Expose it rain and shine. The tap also ball type. This setup been 20yrs.

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Mine exactly the same, only if need to turn it need some strength after that is ok. Perhaps quality have drop compared to 20 yrs ago product. The top screw also rust, change once before.
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post May 25 2017, 02:03 PM

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Which type of ball valve should I get? Brass or stainless steel?
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post May 25 2017, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 25 2017, 12:57 PM)
To me cosmetic not that important ..

What is most important is durable and gives no problem ..

I have both plastic type and rubber type now both giving problem leaking hence need to change..

I've the ball type on my washing machine there and one at beside my WC (to use to wash buttock) and find them rather very solid built..
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Plastic definitely useless especially expose. I changed my outdoor plastic to brass

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post May 25 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 25 2017, 02:03 PM)
Which type of ball valve should I get? Brass or stainless steel?
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Where do you plan to use it for? I believe both are equally good. From my personal knowledge SS is just coating, the underlining still brass, i have few SS and the top layer came off.

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 02:15 PM)
Where do you plan to use it for? I believe both are equally good.  From my personal knowledge SS is just coating, the underlining still brass, i have few SS and the top layer came off.
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Bro, it's for my indoor tangki valve..
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post May 25 2017, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 25 2017, 02:16 PM)
Bro, it's for my indoor tangki valve..
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For indoor not expose, use brass lah. No need waste money.
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post May 25 2017, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 02:03 PM)
Mine exactly the same, only if need to turn it need some strength after that is ok. Perhaps quality have drop compared to 20 yrs ago product. The top screw also rust, change once before.
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Yes, the bad point is the handle. Mostly using paint to coat. Once scratch off, it rust. The screw too.

This valve is 3/4 size. Need some strength.
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QUOTE(weikee @ May 25 2017, 02:09 PM)
Plastic definitely useless especially expose. I changed my outdoor plastic to brass

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When you turn the valve, better hold the pvc pipe.

That look abit unstable the pipe.
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 25 2017, 03:02 PM)
Yes, the bad point is the handle. Mostly using paint to coat. Once scratch off, it rust. The screw too.

This valve is 3/4 size. Need some strength.
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3/4" i can handle lah, per my earlier explanation the thing tend to jammed, but after it move is ok.
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post May 25 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 25 2017, 03:05 PM)
When you turn the valve, better hold the pvc pipe.

That look abit unstable the pipe.
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This one yet to jammed, if it does will need pull the level while holding the pvc.
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post May 25 2017, 07:04 PM

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i believe brass is still the best
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post May 26 2017, 08:38 AM

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Sifus,

If we use this type of ball valve , cannot conceal into wall?
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post May 26 2017, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 26 2017, 08:38 AM)
Sifus,

If we use this type of ball valve , cannot conceal into wall?
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Of course can.
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post May 26 2017, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 26 2017, 08:38 AM)
Sifus,

If we use this type of ball valve , cannot conceal into wall?
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What do you mean by conceal into wall? including the valve and expose the level only? I am not sure if there such ball valve with long neck like the brass, without long neck is hard to conceal into the wall without exposing large area. Bass/SS rubber type definitely can because i have few conceal, and just make sure you have access to the nut at the neck, less hassle if need to change the rubber.
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post May 26 2017, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 26 2017, 08:48 AM)
What do you mean by conceal into wall? including the valve and expose the level only? I am not sure if there such ball valve with long neck like the brass, without long neck is hard to conceal into the wall without exposing large area. Bass/SS rubber type definitely can because i have few conceal, and just make sure you have access to the nut at the neck, less hassle if need to change the rubber.
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Yes only the expose the level.. Because i just check with my contractor he told me if i want to use these type of ball valve, I wont be able to conceal the valve body onto the wall just like our normal stop cork .. Just like what you said the neck is not long enough for the valve to turn after concealing the body..


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post May 26 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 26 2017, 08:55 AM)
Yes only the expose the level.. Because i just check with my contractor he told me if i want to use these type of ball valve, I wont be able to conceal the valve body onto the wall just like our normal stop cork .. Just like what you said the neck is not long enough for the valve to turn after concealing the body..
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Yup, as expected. Unless there different design. If don't have just use the normal brass valve with rubber there is proper name for it (maybe is called globe or shutoff valve)
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post May 26 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 26 2017, 09:12 AM)
Yup, as expected. Unless there different design. If don't have just use the normal brass valve with rubber there is proper name for it (maybe is called globe or shutoff valve)
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Sifu when you say rubber, the rubber is located at where ? The turn valve there or the threaded inlet outlet piping area?
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post May 26 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 26 2017, 09:43 AM)
Sifu when you say rubber, the rubber is located at where ? The turn valve there or the threaded inlet outlet piping area?
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Inside the valve, have to take out the bigger nut (see the picture, have to take out the nut below the packing washer)

https://cdn2.tmbi.com/TFH/Step-By-Step/FH02OCT_WAVALE_02.JPG
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QUOTE(weikee @ May 26 2017, 09:54 AM)
Inside the valve, have to take out the bigger nut (see the picture, have to take out the nut below the packing washer)

https://cdn2.tmbi.com/TFH/Step-By-Step/FH02OCT_WAVALE_02.JPG
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Do you think it is visible in the retail packing if we were to buy them off the shelf?
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post May 26 2017, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 26 2017, 10:43 AM)
Do you think it is visible in the retail packing if we were to buy them off the shelf?
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Can ask the hardware shop. My understanding the rubber gasket are common things can be purchase easily.
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ May 26 2017, 08:38 AM)
Sifus,

If we use this type of ball valve , cannot conceal into wall?
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If you want to conceal into the wall, better use the brass valve. In case of leaking, simply replace the worn off cartridge without hacking the wall. Parts are pretty standard size and easily available too.



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