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post Jan 23 2009, 05:49 PM

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one question to ask sifu sifu here...

if my aquarium doesnt have filter, i only have air pump..

is tat okay??

as i'm a beginner, i thinking of trying the bottle CO2 treatment...the one that directly plug from the bottle and straightaway to the diffuser...

is tat advisable to try tat?


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post Jan 24 2009, 12:05 PM

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ohh.....okay okay....

nah..i havnt set up yet the planted tank...wanted to.....just tat now i have a small tank with air pump inside...with few small fishes....so wanted to convert to plant tank....thinking can save the filter money ..use air pump instead...lol

now i know....i'll buy a filter then smile.gifsmile.gif....but now CNY...so not going to do anything yet....later after CNY i'll only setup up the tank...tat time i'll share my tank picture to let all the sifu here for comment smile.gif
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post Feb 6 2009, 11:02 PM

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hey guys...

i tried step by step...currently my tank doesnt have CO2 and the soil...i bought sand only...but i've bought 3 plants.....i dun know the 2 plants but another one is java moss...the shop lady told me tat java moss cant grow without CO2...i dunnu whether is true or not..

because of budget constraint...tat's why no soil and CO2....

But i tied all 3 plants on a wood i bought....can the plant grow??

i have 2 cherry shrimps and one snail (the lady said is strawberry snail)but i tried to find in the net..i couldnt find.....will take a photo of my snail for u guys to help me to identify....and the tank too..my tank is 18" x 8" x 8"

another question..the lady said i need to have bacteria to make the tank clean....can sifu sifu here explain to me??

currently i have blue tetra, black tetra, blue eyes tetra and another 2 orange color fish...forgot the name..

thanks thanks...

edited: can snail eat my java moss?? (sorry for all newbie question..learning learning)

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post Feb 7 2009, 08:24 AM

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oh my...i think it's late for me to cycle my tank for one week already....because i have fishes and snail around d....sad.gif

i didn know need to use certain sand....i went to the shop i ask the uncle i wan to plant tree sand...he showed me..which type..i just buy only...1 kg for rm2....i guess wrong sand d eh?

can i buy the bacteria from the fish shop and normally how much eh??

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post Feb 7 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Feb 7 2009, 11:23 AM)
the first time i get my 4ft, it takes a month pluss to cycle ..  if already in no problem . u can buy the liquid bacteria culture ..one big bottle around 30+ i think .. bacterballs around 4 each ..

looks like holland sand to me ... hmmm ..  hmm.gif  ...
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p/s: ur moss is melting ... tongue.gif
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heya...yea...i just went and ask the shop...i didn buy tho....tat shop give slightly higher price...so going to survey awhile and see

btw...wat u mean by melting??meaning it's dying?? sad.gif sad.gif

my 1st try on planted tank...face alot of difficulties...but i wont give up!!!!!!


Added on February 7, 2009, 11:44 am
QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Feb 7 2009, 11:23 AM)
the first time i get my 4ft, it takes a month pluss to cycle ..  if already in no problem . u can buy the liquid bacteria culture ..one big bottle around 30+ i think .. bacterballs around 4 each ..

looks like holland sand to me ... hmmm ..  hmm.gif  ...
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p/s: ur moss is melting ... tongue.gif
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heya...yea...i just went and ask the shop...i didn buy tho....tat shop give slightly higher price...so going to survey awhile and see

btw...wat u mean by melting??meaning it's dying?? sad.gif sad.gif

my 1st try on planted tank...face alot of difficulties...but i wont give up!!!!!!

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post Feb 7 2009, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 7 2009, 01:53 PM)
u can still continue to cycle the tank even got fishes inside... jz dat it is not so good for the fishes coz water parameter still unstable... last time i tried put in guppies inside after cycling for a week... they straight jump out of water... lolz...

1kg for rm2 is not fert sand... i bought my ADA Amazonia II aquasoil for rm10/kg.... needed 3 or 4kg + some holland sand (like urs) for my 1.5ft tank... for those bacteria, can try use bacterball or bacter100...
yeap... melting means dying... could be water temperature too high or ph swing... u using internal filter??... dat could generate some heat which will raise the water temperature...
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so any idea on how to make the plant grow with such setup a?? i dowan to buy new filter in meantime...just bought it last week....heheheh


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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 7 2009, 01:53 PM)
u can still continue to cycle the tank even got fishes inside... jz dat it is not so good for the fishes coz water parameter still unstable... last time i tried put in guppies inside after cycling for a week... they straight jump out of water... lolz...

1kg for rm2 is not fert sand... i bought my ADA Amazonia II aquasoil for rm10/kg.... needed 3 or 4kg + some holland sand (like urs) for my 1.5ft tank... for those bacteria, can try use bacterball or bacter100...
yeap... melting means dying... could be water temperature too high or ph swing... u using internal filter??... dat could generate some heat which will raise the water temperature...
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so any idea on how to make the plant grow with such setup a?? i dowan to buy new filter in meantime...just bought it last week....heheheh

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post Feb 8 2009, 06:45 PM

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it's just 13W white light only...sad.gif......
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post Feb 9 2009, 12:32 PM

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so sifu sifu sekalian...what kind of plant is consider low lighting plant???
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 9 2009, 01:26 PM)
java moss  biggrin.gif
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ah...means my java moss can grow!! i hope... rclxms.gif

btw..i read from internet...my aquarium has only 0.7 gallon of water....2926cm cube of water only and my light is 13W....it should be consider a high light tank...is it correct?? coz my tank is 18" x 8" x 8" only...small tank blush.gif
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okay...i cannot tahan and i went to buy yeast, baking soda and sugar right after my work..

and here are my DIY Yeast CO2...

please give comment...i'm eager to see bubbles to come out from the airstone..but i guess i need to wait around 1 hour??

i used 500g of sugar...used my mum's measure cup to measure...it's around 2 and 1/4 cup of sugar..plus 1/2 teaspoon of yeast and baking soda...

as of warm water...i went to my bath room..on the heater to max....and i collect the water..it quite warm tho...is tat okay???

i just shake it upside down to mixture the ingredient and i notice there is a layer of unmixed sugar at the bottom of the bottle...

so sifu sifu sekalian....it my way to DIY correct??


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where i place my DIY CO2 bottle..

edited: It's working...bubbles are coming out!!! i'm so happy.....but airstone creates bigger bubbles....those bubbles didnt manage to break before reaching the surface...so sifu sifu sekalian...will CO2 still able to dissolve inside the water??



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post Feb 10 2009, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Feb 10 2009, 10:15 PM)
nice DIY playerseeker...

i also plan to use air stone....but as u said the bubble is too big that mean the co2 is not nicely dissolve into the water lah?
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yea..from wat i read from the net...it is best to break inside the water..not at the surface..and i've read tat airstone is consider low-efficient in dissolving into water....

i will buy the diffuser soon..now tahan with airstone 1st....anyhow..the CO2 setup is cheap..so waste the CO2 also tak sakit hati la.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 10 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Feb 10 2009, 10:52 PM)
ditch the big sands ... get atleast holland sand or amazonia II ... the glosso is a foreground plant .. after get the soil, remove the glosso from the rock , cut  the glosso links to one ... or one small patches. plant the root inside the soil and use toothpick to make from floating. and yes .. like usermode said .. glosso is a high light plant . it will need HIGH wattage lights to started rooting .. once its root.. u will having headache trimming it up .. ahaha glosso also will need CO2

holland sand about rm35 for 5/10kg .. cant remember .. a 9litre of amazonia II around rm80-90 and rm130-140 for powder

remove any fauna until the tank is fully cycled.

airpump not needed ...
whats with the bubble stone ??  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  get a proper diffuser . a small one can get rm10 ..
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haha....i dun have any diffuser with me right now so use airstone to tahan 1st.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:55 PM

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hey guys......

i have 2 questions to ask

1. today after work came back i saw little bubble coming out from the DIY CO2..so i opened the cap and i shake it..by covering the bottle opening with my palm and it came out alot of bubbles.....it's like u shake a bottle of coca cola and bubbles all came out...will my yeast followed those bubbles out??do i need to add yeast??

2. i tied my java moss with only one nylon string and it's at the center...so now both sides are floating....do i need to tie the both side as well or leave it there?? can those both side grow??

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3. now i'm using DIY CO2 and the bubbles keep on coming out....so this weekend i'm going to buy a diffuser to replace the temporary airstone...but i read u guys normally set the bubbles to 2bps or 1bps....can DIY CO2 done tat?? i wonder if control like this the bottle can letup or not because of the gas tak sempat come out?? let say if no nid use teh counter and just let it come out like this...i wonder can poison the water or not coz the bubbles is 24/7 coming out and i photoperiod from 7pm to 7am only..(the time i back from work-sleep-work)...

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post Feb 13 2009, 11:00 PM

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hey..wanna to ask..if i buy a normal thermometer tat doctor use to check our body temperature then put it in my aquarium..it is advisable? or there are some other type of thermometer? i wan the analogue mercury type..dowan the digital type.....not nice!
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post Feb 13 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 13 2009, 11:02 PM)
there is analog thermometer selling in LFS for very cheap price... i got mine below rm5.... dont need to go for the medic thermometer...
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ouh..good good...tmr i'll be going to the fish shop near new world, penang......1st time going there and going to see whether got alot of variety or not....and also...compare the pricing with the LFS near my house..coz LFS near my house will be the one i'll be visiting more often than there biggrin.gif:D

oh btw...u guys remember the "lalang-kind-of plant" ? one of the forumers meantioned before dun buy that plant because it is not a water plant and will die eventually??

after i introduce CO2 to my tank for one night, i saw that "lalang" actually producing bubbles on their leaves........so it's growing or not growing??

those leaves are slowly turning yellow tho...

wat's the verdict sifu sekalian?? if nto growing..i'm going to take out and throw and replace it with java moss...coz currently the "lalang" plant is tied to the DW with the hanging Java moss of mine.....

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post Feb 14 2009, 09:31 AM

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yea yea..CTY shop...

oh...heavy roots mean the roots are thick?? coz the lalang look plant punya roots are thick...
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post Feb 14 2009, 06:41 PM

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here's new pic of my 1.5ft tank....

i know i know the internal filter is making the temperature very high....30c.... sad.gif sad.gif

i'll only have the budget in next 2 weeks (masuk gaji) and will buy a HOB filter...

can anyone introduce a suitable HOB filter for my tank?? 18" x 8" x 8"


my budget is around rm 40 for the filter...

someone please tell me my plant stil can survive with the temp and only with holland sand...sad.gif sad.gif



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CTY got sell the bacterball or not?? ahh..i'm staying in mainland.....nvm..tmr i go ask my LFS see they got sell or not..

normally how much one ball o?
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hahaah..i no pantang also....but when i ask to put my tank in room..my mum didn let..ahahah..
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post Feb 16 2009, 10:29 AM

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catacombs...

wan to ask u bought the ADA bacterball from which LFS and does tat LFS selling fertilizer ball like the one tenchi bought??


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