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 Planted Aquarium, Back to the Natural

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geediver
post Jan 29 2008, 03:16 PM

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Nice nice.... can't wait to see growth...
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post Jan 30 2008, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Jan 17 2008, 09:11 AM)
the substance, you can use gravel, holland sand, or others brand soil.  i use ADA soil as it will lower down the ph of the water.  how much to use.. its depance on the scaping you do. smile.gif

my 2ft tank update:

1st day:
user posted image

after 1 triming, now its 50th days old

50th day:
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just did a 2nd triming 3 days ago.
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i'm so envy....after i read & see those post in the fish/ planted tank thread, i'm kinda jealous.

can i ask u few questions??
how old r u??
how long have u spend before u start planted tank??

if u feel these questions r disturbance, sorry...
but i'm curious to know
oh...
have u joined any class of photo taking??
ur picture is really nice!!
TSnezumitaro
post Jan 31 2008, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Namgor2006 @ Jan 30 2008, 03:09 PM)
i'm so envy....after i read & see those post in the fish/ planted tank thread, i'm kinda jealous.

can i ask u few questions??
how old r u??
how long have u spend before u start planted tank??

if u feel these questions r disturbance, sorry...
but i'm curious to know
oh...
have u joined any class of photo taking??
ur picture is really nice!!
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lol i am curious does my age important lol.. anyway i am not young any more cry.gif
i just bang my head on the wall and start my planted tank lol... alot of bangolow on my head:P
no i didn't joint any photo class. just snap tongue.gif
thanks.

anyway still newbie.. alot to learn smile.gif

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post Jan 31 2008, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Mar 21 2007, 02:24 PM)
LOL. Bad typo. sad.gif

Should be 2 CUPS sugar and 1/2 teaspoon yeast.
http://www.plantedtank.net/articles/DIY-Yeast-CO2/7/
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very useful tip! thumbup.gif
*hurm only use sugar..must buy yeast tongue.gif
geediver
post Feb 1 2008, 02:36 PM

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Latest update on my tank --- its going low tech. Reason: gonna shoot off to the islands soon (work ma) then will only get back like every month or so.

Up for grabs (PM for price):
Blyxa Japonica, potted
Dwarf swords, potted
Anubias Nana, rock
Riccia Fluitans, wire mesh

Although I do have excessive amounts of Giant Vals, I recommend you go grab your own at the nearest lake (with clean water). For that matter, while you're grabbing buckets full of Vals, you might also wanna grab tons of hornwort; they grow side by side. Word of advice: don't fall into the lake!!!

My moss aren't going to anyone of you, coz I love them too much hahahah.. plus they're staying in the low tech.


Added on February 4, 2008, 6:46 amLatest stuff at NA: Tons of Nerite snails up for grabs plus you get CNY oranges for every purchase made lolx...

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post Feb 5 2008, 02:24 PM

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Why I can't grow moss in my tank?

The moss that I planted will die after some time and I noticed there're some algae on it. Izzit because of the algae?

Need advice...
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post Feb 5 2008, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 5 2008, 02:24 PM)
Why I can't grow moss in my tank?

The moss that I planted will die after some time and I noticed there're some algae on it. Izzit because of the algae?

Need advice...
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what type of moss. and your tank spec please smile.gif
geediver
post Feb 6 2008, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 5 2008, 02:24 PM)
Why I can't grow moss in my tank?

The moss that I planted will die after some time and I noticed there're some algae on it. Izzit because of the algae?

Need advice...
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Just because most websites and forum says mosses are hardy and low maintenance doesn't mean that you do not need to give the mosses a good environment for growth. From my observation, mosses thrive better in a tank with movement meaning there's some kind of water movement; they also thrive in clean water meaning you need some kind of filter; also a good and constant temperature would further enhance the growth ie 22 - 26C.
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post Feb 13 2008, 02:08 AM

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mind that i ask something, the water for planted tank need to have movement one or jus still water???
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post Feb 13 2008, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 5 2008, 02:56 PM)
what type of moss. and your tank spec please smile.gif
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the Java moss and the 'fire flame moss' (i think so).

2 feet tank
30W Arcadia white light
DIY CO2


Added on February 13, 2008, 11:09 am
QUOTE(geediver @ Feb 6 2008, 01:22 PM)
Just because most websites and forum says mosses are hardy and low maintenance doesn't mean that you do not need to give the mosses a good environment for growth. From my observation, mosses thrive better in a tank with movement meaning there's some kind of water movement; they also thrive in clean water meaning you need some kind of filter; also a good and constant temperature would further enhance the growth ie 22 - 26C.
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you're right! that's why i was wondering why i can't grow them in my tank!

beside requirements as you mentioned above, do I need a sophisticated CO2 system and very good lighting?

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post Feb 13 2008, 12:37 PM

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Added on February 13, 2008, 12:44 pm
QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 13 2008, 10:54 AM)
the Java moss and the 'fire flame moss' (i think so).

2 feet tank
30W Arcadia white light
DIY CO2


Added on February 13, 2008, 11:09 am

you're right! that's why i was wondering why i can't grow them in my tank!

beside requirements as you mentioned above, do I need a sophisticated CO2 system and very good lighting?
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try to make 1 bottole of CO2, keep your temp below 28C. java moss shouldn't be problem with low light. your tank is about 43L water(assume your tank is 2 X 1 X 1.
but flame moss is abit pick. what else you have in your tank? any photo? how about PH?

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post Feb 13 2008, 11:42 PM

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For my mosses, this is my specs:
1. Constant 25C water temp (courtesy of 2 fans),
2. Water movement via water output from external filter,
3. DIY co2 (free flow 24/7),
4. 36W PL-L 4 hours a day,
5. Shrimps to clean it.

Don't forget to give it a wash/shake it around; once in awhile. So no sophisticated co2 or high lighting for it. Mosses need clean running water to thrive. Read somewhere a LFS in S'pore actually does WC (25%) on their moss tank every 2 days (and its a 6 feet tank)!!!
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I'm going to start a tank soon. Mine's 2ft. I guess I have everything noted down except for one thing.

I can't decide which brand of filter to use. I've been reading about EHEIM - good but expensive. I plan to have my tank go low tech first. So, just wondering if any of you can recommend me a nice filter, but not too expensive. Budget for filter will be about RM75. I hope to get a HOB filter.
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post Feb 14 2008, 07:43 AM

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Berudu-X: what type of tank do you intend on keeping: planted, fish or both?
Please read up by googling on pros & cons on the differences with regards to both types of filtration systems.
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post Feb 14 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(geediver @ Feb 14 2008, 07:43 AM)
Berudu-X: what type of tank do you intend on keeping: planted, fish or both?
Please read up by googling on pros & cons on the differences with regards to both types of filtration systems.
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geediver... gah! got shot by the search-nazi! doh.gif plan to keep a planted tank with a lill bit o' fishies to liven things up. ok then... back to google i go. blush.gif
TSnezumitaro
post Feb 14 2008, 12:25 PM

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hmmm filter if you have low budget just get a canister filter like cy-20, 2ft don't use HOB lah smile.gif

but make sure u check the bio ring. cos some bio ring will raise PH which is not good for your plants smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 12:41 PM

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So jealous to see all your planted tanks, as for my update... ... My tank left with those hardy plants, those nice grasses, moss etc, gone already. Yap, blame myself, didnt spend time and take good care!
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:48 PM

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Berudu: If you do get the Resun CY-20, the bio-rings are ok. Just remove the charcoal and replace with Bamboo charcoal which you can get at Slippery Little Suckers (http://www.slipperylittlesuckers.com.my) for details. Bamboo charcoal: you can either break it up or leave it whole, then just add directly into your tank (your moss will be soooo grateful).

White Palace: You spent too much time on your dogs is it?

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post Feb 14 2008, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(White Palace @ Feb 14 2008, 12:41 PM)
So jealous to see all your planted tanks, as for my update... ... My tank left with those hardy plants, those nice grasses, moss etc, gone already. Yap, blame myself, didnt spend time and take good care!
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then go for low tech ler.. not much maintainece smile.gif and they still look nice nice smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 10:59 PM

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nezu & geediver... thanks for the tips. looks like i have more reading to do before starting my tank. plan to start it this weekend, but looks like i have to postpone it for now.

again, thanks lots! biggrin.gif

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