Jan 24 2018, 04:09 AM
QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Jan 23 2018, 07:38 PM)
Why would there be a reason for purple & red to be haram to Christians? 
funny logic you have there. Unless of course you are confused. Very confused!
According to *Rev 17:6, the saints (Christians) will be killed by the Roman Catholic church! SO why would the colors of the RCC have anything to do with Christians??!!
Don't tell me you consider yourselves as Christians!
Are you not even aware of the doctrinal distinctions, between your religion(RCC) & the Christians?
Also, most of the things mentioned in the book of Revelation are yet future. I'll display the verses first & the explanation comes below :
Rev 17:1-COME HITHER; I WILL SHEW UNTO THEE THE JUDGMENT (or punishment) OF THE GREAT WHORE (or prostitute) THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS:
17:15-THE WATERS...WHERE THE WHORE (or prostitute) SITTETH, ARE PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES (or languages).
17:2-WITH WHOM THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION (or adultery), AND THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH HAVE BEEN MADE DRUNK (or intoxicated) WITH THE WINE OF HER FORNICATION, (of the whore’s fornication).
18:3-FOR ALL NATIONS HAVE DRUNK OF THE WINE (or maddening wine) OF THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION (the whore’s fornication), AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION WITH HER, AND THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH ARE WAXED RICH (or grew rich) THROUGH THE ABUNDANCE OF HER DELICACIES (or from her excessive luxuries).
7:3-SO HE CARRIED ME AWAY IN THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS: AND I SAW A WOMAN SIT UPON A SCARLET COLOURED BEAST, FULL OF NAMES OF BLASPHEMY (or covered with blasphemous names), HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS.
17:18-AND THE WOMAN WHICH THOU SAWEST IS THAT GREAT CITY, WHICH REIGNETH OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH.
17:9-AND HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HATH WISDOM. THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS, ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITTETH.
17:4-AND THE WOMAN WAS ARRAYED (or dressed) IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOUR, AND DECKED (or was glittering) WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND FULL OF ABOMINATIONS (or filled with abominable things) AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION (or the filth of her adulteries).
18:16-ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, THAT WAS CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, AND PURPLE, AND SCARLET, AND DECKED WITH GOLD, AND PRECIOUS STONES, AND PEARLS!
17:5-AND UPON HER FOREHEAD WAS A NAME WRITTEN (or this title was written on her forehead-NIV), MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND (of the) ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6-AND I SAW THE WOMAN DRUNKEN WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS, AND WITH THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS OF JESUS (or with the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus-NIV): AND WHEN I SAW HER, I WONDERED WITH GREAT ADMIRATION (or I was greatly astonished).
18:4-AND I HEARD ANOTHER VOICE FROM HEAVEN, SAYING, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS (or share) OF HER SINS, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES.
18:5-FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED (or are piled up) UNTO HEAVEN, AND GOD HATH REMEMBERED HER INIQUITIES (or crimes).
18:7-HOW MUCH SHE HATH GLORIFIED HERSELF, AND LIVED DELICIOUSLY(as the glory and luxury she gave herself), SO MUCH TORMENT AND SORROW (or torture and grief-NIV): GIVE HER: FOR SHE SAITH IN HER HEART, I SIT A QUEEN, AND AM NO WIDOW, AND SHALL SEE NO SORROW.
18:17-FOR IN ONE HOUR SO GREAT RICHES (or wealth) IS COME TO NOUGHT (or has been brought to ruin). AND EVERY SHIPMASTER, AND ALL THE COMPANY IN SHIPS, AND SAILORS, AND AS MANY AS TRADE BY SEA (or all who earn their living from the sea), STOOD AFAR OFF.
18:19-AND THEY CAST DUST ON THEIR HEADS, AND CRIED, WEEPING AND WAILING, SAYING, ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, WHEREIN WERE MADE RICH ALL THAT HAD SHIPS IN THE SEA BY REASON OF HER COSTLINESS! FOR IN ONE HOUR IS SHE MADE DESOLATE.
18:20-REJOICE OVER HER, THOU HEAVEN, AND YE (saints and) HOLY APOSTLES AND PROPHETS; FOR GOD HATH AVENGED YOU ON HER
18:23-FOR BY THY SORCERIES WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED.
18:24-AND IN HER WAS FOUND THE BLOOD OF PROPHETS, AND OF SAINTS, AND OF ALL THAT WERE SLAIN (or killed) UPON THE EARTH.
19:2-FOR TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS ARE HIS JUDGMENTS: FOR HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE, WHICH DID CORRUPT THE EARTH WITH HER FORNICATION, AND HATH AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.
Rev 17:1,15,2; 18:3; 17:3,18,9,4; 18:16; 17:5,6;
Rev 18:4,5,7,17,19,20,23,24; 19:2.
The Scriptures relate to us a false religion that is referred to as the whore. This false religion shall exist during part of the Tribulation. This same religion has also existed in the past.
The Scriptures relate to us a great city which is also called the woman. This city has also existed in the past, even before the days of the apostles.
The Scriptures indicate to us that both this city and the false religion are interwoven. The city is part of the false religion, and the false religion is part of the city.
(Scripture with commentary)
Rev 17:1-COME HITHER; I WILL SHEW UNTO THEE THE JUDGMENT (or punishment) OF THE GREAT WHORE (or prostitute) THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS.
This false religion is called a "great whore", because it has left the true teachings of Christ, and turned aside to many false doctrines. As a whore turns aside and goes into sin, so this religion has turned aside as an unfaithful woman or whore. The church is called to be obedient to Jesus, as a faithful wife is to her husband. In the opposite sense, this religion is pictured in the imagery of an unfaithful woman, a great whore. The verse then says THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS.
17:15-THE WATERS...WHERE THE WHORE (or prostitute) SITTETH, ARE PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES (or languages).
This false religion encompasses peoples, multitudes, nations, and people of different languages. This shows us that it is a worldwide, false religion, of which multitudes of people are part of.
17:2-WITH WHOM THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION (or adultery). The rulers of nations are also part of this great whore. AND THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH HAVE BEEN MADE DRUNK (or intoxicated) WITH THE WINE OF HER FORNICATION. People throughout the world have been deceived. They have become as a drunkard that is so intoxicated with the whore’s deceptions, that they are numb to the truth. Their mind has been taken totally captive and deceived with the whore’s adulterous doctrines, which are contrary to God. This false religion has intoxicated the world.
18:3-FOR ALL NATIONS HAVE DRUNK OF THE WINE (or maddening wine) OF THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION. The kings of the earth, the people of the earth, and the nations of the earth have partaken of the whore’s maddening adulterous doctrines. AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION WITH HER. The kings of the earth have become intoxicated with sin, with false teachings, with abominations, and they have committed spiritual fornication with her. Consider a person drinking. They want to drink more and more. Their senses become dulled. Sin offers pleasure, but produces death. AND THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH ARE WAXED RICH (or grew rich) THROUGH THE ABUNDANCE OF HER DELICACIES (or from her excessive luxuries). Here the verse switches over to the city of the great whore. The city is pictured as a trade capital with many luxuries. And as such, merchants have become rich through her. We note that the whore and the city seem to be inseparable. They blend in together, so that some of the descriptions given for one, fit the other, also.
17:3-SO HE CARRIED ME AWAY IN THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS: AND I SAW A WOMAN SIT UPON A SCARLET COLOURED BEAST. The woman is pictured as a city in Rev 17:18. The beast is the Antichrist and his empire. This city and false religion sits on the beast, and rides the beast. It goes along with the beast, and may even try to control the beast. FULL OF NAMES OF BLASPHEMY (or covered with blasphemous names). Both the false religion and the Antichrist are full of blasphemy against God. This should be fulfilled during the Tribulation. HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS. The city is shown to be full of the names of blasphemy against God. The seven heads are explained in Rev 17:9.
17:18-AND THE WOMAN WHICH THOU SAWEST IS THAT GREAT CITY. The woman is portrayed as a great city. WHICH REIGNETH OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH. During at least part of the Tribulation, this city shall reign over the kings of the earth.
17:9-AND HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HATH WISDOM. THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS, ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITTETH. The city is shown to be sitting on seven mountains or hills.
There is a city, that is a trade capital, that does sit on seven mountains, having a worldwide religion that is part of the city itself. That city is Rome. The religion is the Roman Catholic church.
(Ancient Babylon did not sit on seven hills. It was situated on a plain. Ancient Babylon does not fit many other prophecies that are yet to be covered).
17:4-AND THE WOMAN WAS ARRAYED (or dressed) IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOUR, AND DECKED (or was glittering) WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS. The city is portrayed in these colors and glittering.
Do these previous words also fit the church at Rome? What colors have the pope and his cardinals worn in the past? These same colors have also been used in certain Roman celebrations. We have pictured here a false religion that is in Rome. It is pictured as being arrayed in beauty, glamour, and splendor which is far removed from the sackcloth that the two witnesses of God will wear during the Tribulation.
The beautiful and magnificent Vatican, in the city of Rome, is very enticing, even intoxicating. The verse continues, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND. The woman (the city) had in her hand a golden cup (the whore). The city and false religion are as one. We are reminded of the golden cup that the whore uses. The gold may show us it is something beautiful, something to be desired. It is something that, on the outward appearance, appears to be just, and right, and beautiful. However, on the inside of the cup, God’s Word tells us, it is FULL OF ABOMINATIONS (or filled with abominable things) AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION (or the filth of her adulteries).
It is full of abominable teachings, sin, and deception. It is full of wine that intoxicates people and dulls their senses to the pure truth of God’s Word. Satan is clever. He mixes truth with deception. He mixes God’s Word with lies, and few suspect what is really happening.
18:16-ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, THAT WAS CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, AND PURPLE, AND SCARLET, AND DECKED WITH GOLD, AND PRECIOUS STONES, AND PEARLS! The word "fine linen" is added in this verse.
17:5-AND UPON HER FOREHEAD (the forehead of the city) WAS A NAME WRITTEN (or this title was written on her forehead-NIV), MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. MYSTERY. This indicates something secretive. BABYLON. This denotes what religion this is, as well as its origin. THE GREAT. This denotes the magnitude of this false religion. THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS. Meaning the origin or source of false doctrines and religions. AND (of the) ABOMINATIONS (mother of filthiness and immorality) OF THE EARTH. This false religion is the mother of abominations. It might be noted that MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT is on her forehead, not the name of Jesus.
It might be asked, "Why is Babylon written and not Rome?" This is explained a little further on in detail.
* 17:6-AND I SAW THE WOMAN DRUNKEN (the word drunken indicates overindulgence) WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS, AND WITH THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS OF JESUS (or with…the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus). AND WHEN I SAW HER, I WONDERED WITH GREAT ADMIRATION (or I was greatly astonished). This city, Rome, was drunk with the blood of the saints. In this city, multitudes of people were killed that bore the testimony of Jesus. As the Catholic church emerged, it also was responsible for killing multitudes of the saints. It might be asked, "What religion killed the saints that dared to possess a Bible? What religion today feels that they only have the right or knowledge to interpret the Holy Scriptures? What religion today puts church tradition on an equal level with, or above the Scriptures? What religion is it that takes away the fear of hell by supplanting it with a "not so bad place" called purgatory? What religion is it that denies the finished work of Christ, inasmuch that a person must do certain works to inherit eternal life, and many other things as well?"
We have pictured a false religion that preaches Jesus, but has killed many that followed Jesus. It is a religion that claims they are holy, but in God’s eyes they are an abomination. It is a religion that has deceived many in the past, is deceiving many today, and will continue to deceive many into the Tribulation. In like manner, during the Tribulation many will believe the Antichrist is really the true Christ, yet he is the embodiment of evil.
It is no wonder that a religion that teaches in the name of Jesus, but is really full of false teachings and abominations, will undergo a great judgment, and so will all those who partake of her sins.
18:4-AND I HEARD ANOTHER VOICE FROM HEAVEN, SAYING, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS (or share) OF HER SINS, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES. God is telling "His" people, to get out of this city and false religion.
18:5-FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED (or are piled up) UNTO HEAVEN, AND GOD HATH REMEMBERED HER INIQUITIES (or crimes).
18:7-HOW MUCH SHE HATH GLORIFIED HERSELF The city and false religion in Rome have glorified themselves. AND LIVED DELICIOUSLY (or in luxury). The Roman false religion has also lived in luxury. SO MUCH TORMENT AND SORROW (or torture and grief) GIVE HER (as the glory and luxury she gave herself-NIV): FOR SHE SAITH IN HER HEART, I SIT A QUEEN, AND AM NO WIDOW, AND SHALL SEE NO SORROW (or I will never mourn). The Lord is telling us what the city and Catholic church say in their heart.
18:17-FOR IN ONE HOUR SO GREAT RICHES (or wealth) IS COME TO NOUGHT (or has been brought to ruin). Again, it can be noted that the city of Rome is a city of riches. AND EVERY SHIPMASTER, AND ALL THE COMPANY IN SHIPS, AND SAILORS, AND AS MANY AS TRADE BY SEA (or all who earn their living from the sea), STOOD AFAR OFF.
The woman, which is a city, is now shown to be a seaport. Again, the Scriptures are clearly showing us, that it is Rome.
18:19-AND THEY CAST DUST ON THEIR HEADS, AND CRIED, WEEPING AND WAILING, SAYING, ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, WHEREIN WERE MADE RICH ALL THAT HAD SHIPS IN THE SEA BY REASON OF HER COSTLINESS (or wealth)! FOR IN ONE HOUR IS SHE MADE DESOLATE (or has been brought to ruin). During the Tribulation, both the city of Rome and the whore (the Roman Catholic church), will be destroyed in one hour.
18:20-REJOICE OVER HER, THOU HEAVEN, AND YE (saints and) HOLY APOSTLES AND PROPHETS; FOR GOD HATH AVENGED YOU ON HER. This clearly shows us that this is a city that existed during the days of the apostles. Where did Paul die? The answer is Rome.
18:23-FOR BY THY SORCERIES WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED.
18:24-AND IN HER WAS FOUND THE BLOOD OF PROPHETS, AND OF SAINTS, AND OF ALL THAT WERE SLAIN (or killed) UPON THE EARTH.
Again, we note that multitudes were killed in this city. They include prophets and saints of Jesus Christ. Is the slaughter against Christians over? No. Much more is coming during the Tribulation.
19:2-FOR TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS ARE HIS JUDGMENTS: FOR HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE (the church at Rome), WHICH DID CORRUPT THE EARTH WITH HER FORNICATION, AND HATH AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.
There are some that think the Babylon of the Old Testament will become the Babylon that appears in the Revelation. Literal Babylon was never a part of the Roman Empire.
The great whore represents the papal system in its final glory and control of the world during the Tribulation. It can be noted in the message to the church at Thyatira, that Jezebel is also portrayed as the Roman church. God gave her space to repent of her fornication, and she repented not. This portrays that the false religion, that is, the great whore, will continue in her ways until the end, when she is destroyed. She will be cast into great tribulation, and all her followers, except they repent. As has been noted, God’s people are told to come out of her.
It might be said that the Roman false religion will grow even larger once the Rapture has happened, but it will be short lived.
Yeah, i know you don't even believe in the rapture which is clearly stated in the Bible (rapturo/ harpazo) The Christian Bible!
Rome was founded approximately 753 B.C.
THE GREAT WHORE, THE FALSE RELIGION
The great whore. Her teachings have left the truth and turned to many false doctrines
She has many people-Rev 17:1,15
She has many nations-Rev 17:1,15
She is a worldwide religion-Rev 17:1,15
She has people from many languages-Rev 17:1,15
Her name is written upon the forehead of the city of Rome-Rev 17:5
Her name is:
Mystery-Rev 17:5
Babylon the Great-Rev 17:5
The Mother of Harlots-Rev 17:5
And Abominations of the Earth-Rev 17:5
The kings of the earth are also a part-Rev 17:2
Kings have committed fornication with her-Rev 17:2
She has corrupted the earth with her fornication-Rev 19:2
The inhabitants of the earth have become intoxicated with her false teachings-Rev 17:2
She has been responsible for killing God's servants-Rev 19:2
THE WOMAN, THE CITY OF ROME
The great whore is part of a great city (Rome)-Rev 17:5,18
The city sits on 7 mountains or hills-Rev 17:9
The city has a golden cup in her hand-Rev 17:4
Note the golden cup of the Catholic church
In the cup:
Abominations
Fornication
The city of Rome, drunken with the blood of the saints-Rev 17:6; 18:24
Apostles were killed in her-Rev 18:10
Prophets were killed in her-Rev 18:20,24
A trade capital-Rev 18:3,15
Her sins have reached to heaven-Rev 18:5
She is not far from the sea-Rev 18:17
Every single one of these fits the Roman Catholic church perfectly.
The Roman Catholic church and the city of Rome are as one. Your Vatican
The Roman Catholic church is the great whore.
It is the modern-day extension of Mystery, Babylon the Great. It is the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. And it is also true that many will refuse to believe this.
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You keep an eye on future events & judge for yourself whether Bible prophecy is true
Jesus did not write a book, He started a Church. funny logic you have there. Unless of course you are confused. Very confused! According to *Rev 17:6, the saints (Christians) will be killed by the Roman Catholic church! SO why would the colors of the RCC have anything to do with Christians??!!
Don't tell me you consider yourselves as Christians!
Are you not even aware of the doctrinal distinctions, between your religion(RCC) & the Christians?
Also, most of the things mentioned in the book of Revelation are yet future. I'll display the verses first & the explanation comes below :
Rev 17:1-COME HITHER; I WILL SHEW UNTO THEE THE JUDGMENT (or punishment) OF THE GREAT WHORE (or prostitute) THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS:
17:15-THE WATERS...WHERE THE WHORE (or prostitute) SITTETH, ARE PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES (or languages).
17:2-WITH WHOM THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION (or adultery), AND THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH HAVE BEEN MADE DRUNK (or intoxicated) WITH THE WINE OF HER FORNICATION, (of the whore’s fornication).
18:3-FOR ALL NATIONS HAVE DRUNK OF THE WINE (or maddening wine) OF THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION (the whore’s fornication), AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION WITH HER, AND THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH ARE WAXED RICH (or grew rich) THROUGH THE ABUNDANCE OF HER DELICACIES (or from her excessive luxuries).
7:3-SO HE CARRIED ME AWAY IN THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS: AND I SAW A WOMAN SIT UPON A SCARLET COLOURED BEAST, FULL OF NAMES OF BLASPHEMY (or covered with blasphemous names), HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS.
17:18-AND THE WOMAN WHICH THOU SAWEST IS THAT GREAT CITY, WHICH REIGNETH OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH.
17:9-AND HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HATH WISDOM. THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS, ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITTETH.
17:4-AND THE WOMAN WAS ARRAYED (or dressed) IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOUR, AND DECKED (or was glittering) WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND FULL OF ABOMINATIONS (or filled with abominable things) AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION (or the filth of her adulteries).
18:16-ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, THAT WAS CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, AND PURPLE, AND SCARLET, AND DECKED WITH GOLD, AND PRECIOUS STONES, AND PEARLS!
17:5-AND UPON HER FOREHEAD WAS A NAME WRITTEN (or this title was written on her forehead-NIV), MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND (of the) ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6-AND I SAW THE WOMAN DRUNKEN WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS, AND WITH THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS OF JESUS (or with the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus-NIV): AND WHEN I SAW HER, I WONDERED WITH GREAT ADMIRATION (or I was greatly astonished).
18:4-AND I HEARD ANOTHER VOICE FROM HEAVEN, SAYING, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS (or share) OF HER SINS, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES.
18:5-FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED (or are piled up) UNTO HEAVEN, AND GOD HATH REMEMBERED HER INIQUITIES (or crimes).
18:7-HOW MUCH SHE HATH GLORIFIED HERSELF, AND LIVED DELICIOUSLY(as the glory and luxury she gave herself), SO MUCH TORMENT AND SORROW (or torture and grief-NIV): GIVE HER: FOR SHE SAITH IN HER HEART, I SIT A QUEEN, AND AM NO WIDOW, AND SHALL SEE NO SORROW.
18:17-FOR IN ONE HOUR SO GREAT RICHES (or wealth) IS COME TO NOUGHT (or has been brought to ruin). AND EVERY SHIPMASTER, AND ALL THE COMPANY IN SHIPS, AND SAILORS, AND AS MANY AS TRADE BY SEA (or all who earn their living from the sea), STOOD AFAR OFF.
18:19-AND THEY CAST DUST ON THEIR HEADS, AND CRIED, WEEPING AND WAILING, SAYING, ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, WHEREIN WERE MADE RICH ALL THAT HAD SHIPS IN THE SEA BY REASON OF HER COSTLINESS! FOR IN ONE HOUR IS SHE MADE DESOLATE.
18:20-REJOICE OVER HER, THOU HEAVEN, AND YE (saints and) HOLY APOSTLES AND PROPHETS; FOR GOD HATH AVENGED YOU ON HER
18:23-FOR BY THY SORCERIES WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED.
18:24-AND IN HER WAS FOUND THE BLOOD OF PROPHETS, AND OF SAINTS, AND OF ALL THAT WERE SLAIN (or killed) UPON THE EARTH.
19:2-FOR TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS ARE HIS JUDGMENTS: FOR HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE, WHICH DID CORRUPT THE EARTH WITH HER FORNICATION, AND HATH AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.
Rev 17:1,15,2; 18:3; 17:3,18,9,4; 18:16; 17:5,6;
Rev 18:4,5,7,17,19,20,23,24; 19:2.
The Scriptures relate to us a false religion that is referred to as the whore. This false religion shall exist during part of the Tribulation. This same religion has also existed in the past.
The Scriptures relate to us a great city which is also called the woman. This city has also existed in the past, even before the days of the apostles.
The Scriptures indicate to us that both this city and the false religion are interwoven. The city is part of the false religion, and the false religion is part of the city.
(Scripture with commentary)
Rev 17:1-COME HITHER; I WILL SHEW UNTO THEE THE JUDGMENT (or punishment) OF THE GREAT WHORE (or prostitute) THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS.
This false religion is called a "great whore", because it has left the true teachings of Christ, and turned aside to many false doctrines. As a whore turns aside and goes into sin, so this religion has turned aside as an unfaithful woman or whore. The church is called to be obedient to Jesus, as a faithful wife is to her husband. In the opposite sense, this religion is pictured in the imagery of an unfaithful woman, a great whore. The verse then says THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS.
17:15-THE WATERS...WHERE THE WHORE (or prostitute) SITTETH, ARE PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES (or languages).
This false religion encompasses peoples, multitudes, nations, and people of different languages. This shows us that it is a worldwide, false religion, of which multitudes of people are part of.
17:2-WITH WHOM THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION (or adultery). The rulers of nations are also part of this great whore. AND THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH HAVE BEEN MADE DRUNK (or intoxicated) WITH THE WINE OF HER FORNICATION. People throughout the world have been deceived. They have become as a drunkard that is so intoxicated with the whore’s deceptions, that they are numb to the truth. Their mind has been taken totally captive and deceived with the whore’s adulterous doctrines, which are contrary to God. This false religion has intoxicated the world.
18:3-FOR ALL NATIONS HAVE DRUNK OF THE WINE (or maddening wine) OF THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION. The kings of the earth, the people of the earth, and the nations of the earth have partaken of the whore’s maddening adulterous doctrines. AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED FORNICATION WITH HER. The kings of the earth have become intoxicated with sin, with false teachings, with abominations, and they have committed spiritual fornication with her. Consider a person drinking. They want to drink more and more. Their senses become dulled. Sin offers pleasure, but produces death. AND THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH ARE WAXED RICH (or grew rich) THROUGH THE ABUNDANCE OF HER DELICACIES (or from her excessive luxuries). Here the verse switches over to the city of the great whore. The city is pictured as a trade capital with many luxuries. And as such, merchants have become rich through her. We note that the whore and the city seem to be inseparable. They blend in together, so that some of the descriptions given for one, fit the other, also.
17:3-SO HE CARRIED ME AWAY IN THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS: AND I SAW A WOMAN SIT UPON A SCARLET COLOURED BEAST. The woman is pictured as a city in Rev 17:18. The beast is the Antichrist and his empire. This city and false religion sits on the beast, and rides the beast. It goes along with the beast, and may even try to control the beast. FULL OF NAMES OF BLASPHEMY (or covered with blasphemous names). Both the false religion and the Antichrist are full of blasphemy against God. This should be fulfilled during the Tribulation. HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS. The city is shown to be full of the names of blasphemy against God. The seven heads are explained in Rev 17:9.
17:18-AND THE WOMAN WHICH THOU SAWEST IS THAT GREAT CITY. The woman is portrayed as a great city. WHICH REIGNETH OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH. During at least part of the Tribulation, this city shall reign over the kings of the earth.
17:9-AND HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HATH WISDOM. THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS, ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITTETH. The city is shown to be sitting on seven mountains or hills.
There is a city, that is a trade capital, that does sit on seven mountains, having a worldwide religion that is part of the city itself. That city is Rome. The religion is the Roman Catholic church.
(Ancient Babylon did not sit on seven hills. It was situated on a plain. Ancient Babylon does not fit many other prophecies that are yet to be covered).
17:4-AND THE WOMAN WAS ARRAYED (or dressed) IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOUR, AND DECKED (or was glittering) WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS. The city is portrayed in these colors and glittering.
Do these previous words also fit the church at Rome? What colors have the pope and his cardinals worn in the past? These same colors have also been used in certain Roman celebrations. We have pictured here a false religion that is in Rome. It is pictured as being arrayed in beauty, glamour, and splendor which is far removed from the sackcloth that the two witnesses of God will wear during the Tribulation.
The beautiful and magnificent Vatican, in the city of Rome, is very enticing, even intoxicating. The verse continues, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND. The woman (the city) had in her hand a golden cup (the whore). The city and false religion are as one. We are reminded of the golden cup that the whore uses. The gold may show us it is something beautiful, something to be desired. It is something that, on the outward appearance, appears to be just, and right, and beautiful. However, on the inside of the cup, God’s Word tells us, it is FULL OF ABOMINATIONS (or filled with abominable things) AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION (or the filth of her adulteries).
It is full of abominable teachings, sin, and deception. It is full of wine that intoxicates people and dulls their senses to the pure truth of God’s Word. Satan is clever. He mixes truth with deception. He mixes God’s Word with lies, and few suspect what is really happening.
18:16-ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, THAT WAS CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, AND PURPLE, AND SCARLET, AND DECKED WITH GOLD, AND PRECIOUS STONES, AND PEARLS! The word "fine linen" is added in this verse.
17:5-AND UPON HER FOREHEAD (the forehead of the city) WAS A NAME WRITTEN (or this title was written on her forehead-NIV), MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. MYSTERY. This indicates something secretive. BABYLON. This denotes what religion this is, as well as its origin. THE GREAT. This denotes the magnitude of this false religion. THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS. Meaning the origin or source of false doctrines and religions. AND (of the) ABOMINATIONS (mother of filthiness and immorality) OF THE EARTH. This false religion is the mother of abominations. It might be noted that MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT is on her forehead, not the name of Jesus.
It might be asked, "Why is Babylon written and not Rome?" This is explained a little further on in detail.
* 17:6-AND I SAW THE WOMAN DRUNKEN (the word drunken indicates overindulgence) WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS, AND WITH THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS OF JESUS (or with…the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus). AND WHEN I SAW HER, I WONDERED WITH GREAT ADMIRATION (or I was greatly astonished). This city, Rome, was drunk with the blood of the saints. In this city, multitudes of people were killed that bore the testimony of Jesus. As the Catholic church emerged, it also was responsible for killing multitudes of the saints. It might be asked, "What religion killed the saints that dared to possess a Bible? What religion today feels that they only have the right or knowledge to interpret the Holy Scriptures? What religion today puts church tradition on an equal level with, or above the Scriptures? What religion is it that takes away the fear of hell by supplanting it with a "not so bad place" called purgatory? What religion is it that denies the finished work of Christ, inasmuch that a person must do certain works to inherit eternal life, and many other things as well?"
We have pictured a false religion that preaches Jesus, but has killed many that followed Jesus. It is a religion that claims they are holy, but in God’s eyes they are an abomination. It is a religion that has deceived many in the past, is deceiving many today, and will continue to deceive many into the Tribulation. In like manner, during the Tribulation many will believe the Antichrist is really the true Christ, yet he is the embodiment of evil.
It is no wonder that a religion that teaches in the name of Jesus, but is really full of false teachings and abominations, will undergo a great judgment, and so will all those who partake of her sins.
18:4-AND I HEARD ANOTHER VOICE FROM HEAVEN, SAYING, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS (or share) OF HER SINS, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES. God is telling "His" people, to get out of this city and false religion.
18:5-FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED (or are piled up) UNTO HEAVEN, AND GOD HATH REMEMBERED HER INIQUITIES (or crimes).
18:7-HOW MUCH SHE HATH GLORIFIED HERSELF The city and false religion in Rome have glorified themselves. AND LIVED DELICIOUSLY (or in luxury). The Roman false religion has also lived in luxury. SO MUCH TORMENT AND SORROW (or torture and grief) GIVE HER (as the glory and luxury she gave herself-NIV): FOR SHE SAITH IN HER HEART, I SIT A QUEEN, AND AM NO WIDOW, AND SHALL SEE NO SORROW (or I will never mourn). The Lord is telling us what the city and Catholic church say in their heart.
18:17-FOR IN ONE HOUR SO GREAT RICHES (or wealth) IS COME TO NOUGHT (or has been brought to ruin). Again, it can be noted that the city of Rome is a city of riches. AND EVERY SHIPMASTER, AND ALL THE COMPANY IN SHIPS, AND SAILORS, AND AS MANY AS TRADE BY SEA (or all who earn their living from the sea), STOOD AFAR OFF.
The woman, which is a city, is now shown to be a seaport. Again, the Scriptures are clearly showing us, that it is Rome.
18:19-AND THEY CAST DUST ON THEIR HEADS, AND CRIED, WEEPING AND WAILING, SAYING, ALAS, ALAS, THAT GREAT CITY, WHEREIN WERE MADE RICH ALL THAT HAD SHIPS IN THE SEA BY REASON OF HER COSTLINESS (or wealth)! FOR IN ONE HOUR IS SHE MADE DESOLATE (or has been brought to ruin). During the Tribulation, both the city of Rome and the whore (the Roman Catholic church), will be destroyed in one hour.
18:20-REJOICE OVER HER, THOU HEAVEN, AND YE (saints and) HOLY APOSTLES AND PROPHETS; FOR GOD HATH AVENGED YOU ON HER. This clearly shows us that this is a city that existed during the days of the apostles. Where did Paul die? The answer is Rome.
18:23-FOR BY THY SORCERIES WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED.
18:24-AND IN HER WAS FOUND THE BLOOD OF PROPHETS, AND OF SAINTS, AND OF ALL THAT WERE SLAIN (or killed) UPON THE EARTH.
Again, we note that multitudes were killed in this city. They include prophets and saints of Jesus Christ. Is the slaughter against Christians over? No. Much more is coming during the Tribulation.
19:2-FOR TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS ARE HIS JUDGMENTS: FOR HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE (the church at Rome), WHICH DID CORRUPT THE EARTH WITH HER FORNICATION, AND HATH AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.
There are some that think the Babylon of the Old Testament will become the Babylon that appears in the Revelation. Literal Babylon was never a part of the Roman Empire.
The great whore represents the papal system in its final glory and control of the world during the Tribulation. It can be noted in the message to the church at Thyatira, that Jezebel is also portrayed as the Roman church. God gave her space to repent of her fornication, and she repented not. This portrays that the false religion, that is, the great whore, will continue in her ways until the end, when she is destroyed. She will be cast into great tribulation, and all her followers, except they repent. As has been noted, God’s people are told to come out of her.
It might be said that the Roman false religion will grow even larger once the Rapture has happened, but it will be short lived.
Yeah, i know you don't even believe in the rapture which is clearly stated in the Bible (rapturo/ harpazo) The Christian Bible!
Rome was founded approximately 753 B.C.
THE GREAT WHORE, THE FALSE RELIGION
The great whore. Her teachings have left the truth and turned to many false doctrines
She has many people-Rev 17:1,15
She has many nations-Rev 17:1,15
She is a worldwide religion-Rev 17:1,15
She has people from many languages-Rev 17:1,15
Her name is written upon the forehead of the city of Rome-Rev 17:5
Her name is:
Mystery-Rev 17:5
Babylon the Great-Rev 17:5
The Mother of Harlots-Rev 17:5
And Abominations of the Earth-Rev 17:5
The kings of the earth are also a part-Rev 17:2
Kings have committed fornication with her-Rev 17:2
She has corrupted the earth with her fornication-Rev 19:2
The inhabitants of the earth have become intoxicated with her false teachings-Rev 17:2
She has been responsible for killing God's servants-Rev 19:2
THE WOMAN, THE CITY OF ROME
The great whore is part of a great city (Rome)-Rev 17:5,18
The city sits on 7 mountains or hills-Rev 17:9
The city has a golden cup in her hand-Rev 17:4
Note the golden cup of the Catholic church
In the cup:
Abominations
Fornication
The city of Rome, drunken with the blood of the saints-Rev 17:6; 18:24
Apostles were killed in her-Rev 18:10
Prophets were killed in her-Rev 18:20,24
A trade capital-Rev 18:3,15
Her sins have reached to heaven-Rev 18:5
She is not far from the sea-Rev 18:17
Every single one of these fits the Roman Catholic church perfectly.
The Roman Catholic church and the city of Rome are as one. Your Vatican
The Roman Catholic church is the great whore.
It is the modern-day extension of Mystery, Babylon the Great. It is the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. And it is also true that many will refuse to believe this.
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That church remains till today which is the Catholic Church.
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