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wkc5657
post May 17 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 17 2017, 03:47 PM)
Yokohama MF , century MF

But my most satisfied purchase is CTEK mx5.0 charger , every once boost the batteries to full capacity

For many years all these MF only last one year , once I started charging with wall charger , now 2 years still strong.

Any new battery is given a boost before install to offset the shelf storing discharge
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Finally found someone having similar sentiments like i do regarding car battery charger. I own the same charger by the way.

Workshop people con us drivers left right centre saying that MF batteries can't last beyond 2 years. Then we takut takut go change every 18-24 months. Actually, even normal ones can last double that time if periodically put it under charge. Can save money on the long run but many still don't believe it.

I usually do a maintenance charge overnight once a month. How's your regime?
wkc5657
post May 17 2017, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 17 2017, 04:11 PM)
I know right , totally worth the investment from changing once a year to once every two years , it pays for itself in a few cycles of changes

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If got more than 1 car at home, pays itself back much faster. But many don't understand the benefit as it takes time to pay itself back.

Another really cheap investment for car battery health is a simple multimeter, measure every few months to make sure battery in good health. If lower, put it to charge. If still cannot go back to normal, that means showing signs of battery dying. At least no need to be suddenly stranded with a dead battery.

Another one is to get AGM type of battery. Damn expensive, costs 3x normal premium MF batteries, but can last the life time of the car. If put under the charger, can last above 15 years.
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post May 18 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 17 2017, 05:17 PM)

Unless boost mode then advised to remove terminals because it goes to 16v , much higher than normal 14v from alternator
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It is actually called "reconditioning" mode, not boost mode. No need to remove terminals, just charge like normal, no ill effects on all the cars that i ran with this mode.

QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ May 17 2017, 05:21 PM)
wont have any ill effects on our car's sensitive electronic system??.......need to charged overnight?........check on internet roughly around rm.550 per unit.......how much did you guys buy?........thanks for the info.
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No, it won't affect the electronics in the car. The battery itself already acts as a giant voltage regulator, just not a good idea to start the car with the charger still plugged in (although technically won't have any ill effects either, but just to be on the safe side). However, there is a version that can support jump start.

I bought mine a number of years ago for slightly below RM400 from RS components. Now RM500+ rather normal considering that RM depreciated significantly.

Here's the link that i used before : http://my.rs-online.com/web/p/battery-char...motive/7934092/

QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 17 2017, 08:59 PM)
I bet nowadays standard range MF battery if can last more than 1.5yr is consider good already..
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Can last at least 3 years if :
1) driven on high speed long distance frequently
2) put on a periodic maintenance charge with a dedicated lead acid battery charger

QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ May 18 2017, 09:03 AM)
how long does it nee to charged the battery??......let say we charged our battery every 6months.......sorry for stupid question........weighing the pro and con for getting this charger as my car's batteries are all around 1.5years now......  thanks
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Depends on your battery condition, usually takes around 4-6 hours to complete the charging programme for smaller sized batteries. But for convenience sake, I just leave it overnight. If you want it faster, get the higher amperage version, but of course more expensive la...The device is automated, just plug in, select the charging mode and wait.
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post May 18 2017, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ May 18 2017, 12:16 PM)
Can Ctek Mxs 5.0 charge most MF car batteries?
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Not only MF, normal wet type also can.

QUOTE(rcracer @ May 18 2017, 12:46 PM)
Even does the AGM batteries which are advanced batteries most western countries are using already
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AGM type of batteries are not more advanced, the basic principle still same like normal lead acid battery, just that much denser. AGM batteries are the only ones that can be truly "revived" if the charge got fully depleted.

But damn heavy though, the AGM version that can fit in my car is 50% heavier than the unit that is currently inside my car sweat.gif

The real advanced ones are lithium type starter batteries, super light, only weighs 3-4kg. These are not those found in the battery pack of a hybrid car as the circuitry is different for fast charge/discharge. Good units starts at least from the price of a quarter of an Axia already... mega_shok.gif

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post May 19 2017, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ May 19 2017, 11:32 AM)
this battery changed during outstation trip where i got stuck on

epic is...warranty card got but without any address that i can refer to.
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cannot use home address?
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post May 19 2017, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ May 19 2017, 01:34 PM)

the warranty allow me to fill in my personal particulars and there is NO COMPANY address i can sent the card in
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Oh i see...

Maybe the company allows claim from any authorised reseller.
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post May 22 2017, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ May 22 2017, 10:05 AM)

all upsized (din52 - din66), all last ~15-18 months laugh.gif
now running on GS Yuasa DIN80, and i bit the bullet and got meself a CTEK MXS5, it'll be used to charge 4 vehicles so it'll repay itself in no time

i was advised to charge up every month (alot of short trips, and a massive 1KW amp was installed in my car)
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Aiyo...already got charger, then why still upsize so much, unnecessary weight penalty only... But i think you need proper AGM battery like Odyssey or Optima batteries that can handle more charge and discharge cycles. Those normal or slightly premium range of MF batteries can't handle that much cycles. Proper AGM batteries can last the lifetime of your car if maintained properly.

For normal driving, charge once every 3 months also quite sufficient already. But i also hook up the charger on the first weekend of a new month to reduce the hassle of remembering the timing.

QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 22 2017, 03:09 PM)
observe during the charging process.... how long does take for the bulk charging stage

different charger may have different term for this but basically this stage charges until about 80% of battery capacity

if this stage takes a long time to proceed to absorption stage, your battery has been drained quite significantly, and you need to charge more often, say, once a week
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The charger itself will also need to monitor ambient temperature and internal resistance in your battery to avoid an electrical fire, so the timing will vary. The final stage is actually called trickle charge, that means the charger will reduce the output to top up the final 10%, or to maintain the battery (usually during prolonged storage or winter as cold temperature causes faster self discharge) Just like normal handphones, the final stage takes longer time. After bulk charging is done, good enough to unplug already.

If there are no electrical leaks or unknown phantom loads, if battery can't last for 3 months on normal driving without charging, the problem is at the battery, either it is a crap unit, on the verge of dying or the capacity is too low for the load required by the car.
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post May 22 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(kabuto12 @ May 22 2017, 04:06 PM)
tumpang thread...
how to know that the car alternator is charging the battery or not? any method other than using voltmeter.
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I believe there is no other reliable way other than to have direct contact to test....

Maybe some other sifus can enlighten us.

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