hey guys..

i really need advise from u all...

i got a job at BAT but currently i working at HP singapore...
what should i do??
accept the offer or stay at HP singapore??

how to get into BAT?

i apply from thier website sia....

uh... i need a job !

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Added on March 19, 2007, 8:16 pmi heard BAT offers really good stuff..relaxing working environ, free ciggy n stuff, good pay as well

This post has been edited by strawroot: Mar 19 2007, 08:16 PM

i didnt know well lor about the company....
last friday i go for interview..
from 2.30 till 4.30 fuhhhh.....damn long hour
but the boss ask me what ciggy i smoke i say marlboro..than he say sure die coz the company only supply dunhill...hahahh
he say i give free

with that kind of english
im suprised they even bothered

ok dude i admit my english is poor...
actually its depands on luck...
and now i hv a luck..
thanks to god...

hmmm...who do u interview with? my friend works there and is in human resource. is it an incriment for u from ur previous job? should be ok.

like strawroot mention
they benfits given is good

i got friend who is working in BAT
he mention tat is very very hard to get into BAT

thanks guys that mean i should accept the offer...

d2e_7, what job you apply?

What position did BAT offer you?

Funny eh...?
Just wondering what sort of standards they require and implement in malaysia nowadays.

This post has been edited by WildChai: Mar 20 2007, 04:44 PM

someone mentioned relaxing working envi... are u sure? proof

I heard ppl saying that they have OSIM chairs there for you to enjoy.

I also heard pple said that the one with OSIM chairs is not BAT, in fact it is GSD or AsiaPac Shared Services Centre based in Technology park....

is it? 2 persons told me it was in BAT... hmm...

What happened with your current job?

haha, nvm la...

btw, ST, is good to work in BAT, in terms of ur future career development!

decided to switch job

anymore jobs at BAT?

Yeah. BAT uses a lot of Temp Gals to go around marketing their products to NEOs (Night Entertainment Outlets)

I saw their ad in the Star on Saturday, RM150-200k annual starting salary if you have an MBA from a top university. Not great money but not bad to start out with either...

Well, for sure its not possible to get into that as a person's first job, so it cant be the starting salary. Why? Because no reputable university will admit somebody without working experience into a MBA course.

Start out after you've finished your MBA of course

Not sure if it's good ROI though, if you spent say RM200k (Oxford, LSE MBA) to RM500k (Harvard, Columbia, MIT MBA) for your studies...

my fren work there..
good salary, benefits, bonus and lot of company dinner ..
most ppl there can speak very well in english.

i wonder do they give shares to their employees...

Well, for IT they seem outsourced to India center, for other division like account yea they need ppl.

Not bad every month 2box dunhill...ha

good luck...!!

shares 4 employee???

haha....their share is worthy lor....

Give shares, dream on. Give share options, depends on the company lar.. But keep in mind the difference between giving shares and giving share options.

There are companies who give shares outright, some who sell it at discounted rates and others which give options. It also depends on what level you're joining obviously.

hehe, well, of course there's those who gives out shares outright, but those positions r the very senior positions, basically those in a position to influence their revenue in a major way.

u mean 2 carton?? wow!!!i need to apply there.... is it hard to get in BAT???? other TS in other thread need free food.. while for me 2 carton every month seems enough already.... hahahhaa~!!!!

killingspree,
And what if GAB offered free beers? Would you shift from BAT to GAB then?

I think you should accept, cause its not that like they always hire people, heard ppl say that its a good company.

It's a company that will survive and prosper for a long time because millions of people are addicted to cigarettes and can't stop smoking. Good from a money making perspective, but not so good from their consumer's health point of view.

yup i already accept the offer...

thanks guys..

har ???

work in HP singapore la ! why come to Malaysia ?????

Mind telling us what position is that?

cannot afford lor..
at KL can save a lot sia...

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Added on March 22, 2007, 12:57 pmkuli liao..

This post has been edited by d2e_7: Mar 22 2007, 12:57 PM

wat is the qualification to become the kuli?

most probably sell cigs lah...
spm gua

i only have dip lor..and working experian at HP singapore (10 month)..
that it!!

do you get in as a sales/trade rep? or associate? or trainee?

wat is GAB?? opss.. i dun drink beers.....

killingspree,
GAB = Guiness Anchor Berhad.

Have fun at BAT, am sure u would but as 'kuli'... I've no idea *shrugs*. Then again, we're all Kuli's depending on how u wanna see it

What position you got there? Try to advoid IT positon there... its a miserable life there.

If you work as permenant staff, perhaps worth considering, coz i heard their benefit quite good. Besides getting free cigarettes ration monthly...

But their IT department is very messy. Part of the management team sucks, thus dragging the whole team. And you get the change to remain standby from open shop to close shop, which could last from 7am to 8,9,10pm or 12 am. Which in the middle you just sitting there, and standing by.

My colleague from HP, they are contractors from HP, BAT ask a whole team of developers to come to their office ASAP but never give them assignment, they end up sitting there for whole month, what a way to spend money eh?

I myself also end up sitting in office doing nothing for whole first month, feel like in prison. Most of my time here, i only considered 10% of it is production which i really busy myself with works, they rest, all waiting game. There is a saying, dont finish too fast or you end up no work for the rest of the week.

Hope i didnt scare you, and hopefully you got a better position them me.

BTW, you better be a smoker, no non-smokers can tolerate that much of 2nd hand smoke.

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Added on March 23, 2007, 10:58 amHahaha, that GSD you mentioned there is a very very very messy place. Management can hire a team of developers and leave them nothing to do sitting at office for a month. They can pay 20 people 200k daily, but my allowance since last year drag until 4 months later only approved, even thou its only about 50 bucks.

And can you handle 200k worth of headache? I mean really headache, you dont have your weekends, your personal time, need to attend training course on weekend also ask "why you seem like have plenty of commitment?".

Think twice when you planning to go in there. OR work there for a while so you can boast about yourself later on, never think long term overthere, well anyway, they dont think about hiring you long term anyway, most of them contractors there.

Oh, you need to suck lots of 2nd hand smoke too.

Gud luck

This post has been edited by rexis: Mar 23 2007, 10:58 AM

really kan cheong sia
is it really bad???

If you're to ask if its really like that, answer is, probably yes. But its hardly unique to just BAT lar. There's heaps of places with such problems. So mainly its to do with being able to handle that sort of environment.

a bit off topic here, but its for that exact reason why when large companies want to do something new, they just buy over another company rather than build something themselves. Because they know their own problems, and that a large organization can never out innovate a smaller company.

What rexis told is true, im also working under BAT, if its permanent position it worth considering, usually its hard to get permanent position straight away. About working hour is completely true, i also feel like in prison sitting there standby only, furthermore for contact staff there is no OT. You only can claim hour. The relaxing part is true but you can see everyone sitting the making themselves looks like busy. My claim not even in yet even though it only 80 bucks.

Permenant positon... most of the workers here are contract staff...

Maybe just because my position is low. And now i cant forseen what will happened next day. When they feel like it, they can tell you to stay till 11pm tonight, come 7am tomorrow, or even take one day off tomorrow to compensate your extra working hour. Okay, now I cant even have any plan to go yum cha with friends at night, go out for a gathering(like the agri business one in my siggy), or even go to take any training course!

How is the feel like you canceled a plan to attend a weekend training course 3 weeks ago just because its crashed with an outstation work? You packed your things and only to find out last minutes thats its prosponed, i dont even had a change to make some last minutes adjustment, course already started. Great, now not only i have wasted a weekend doing nothing, i have to wait for a few months for them to organise the same course again.

Oh i wish to highlight the "lots of 2nd smoke to suck" part.

Rants, yes.

This post has been edited by rexis: Mar 27 2007, 03:20 AM

well, sh*t happens.

i'm sure most company will face its same share of problems, due to unforeseen circumstances.

the rest of the departments are pretty well managed, probably you're under a very difficult boss.

by the way, freedom through responsibility.

seems like BAT GSD quite bad.
no wonder they wan wire a MBA to take control

i'm hoping ot get a job there for Management Trainee Marketing, anyone workign there as MT marketing?

Wah..seems like the IT department is really bad there at BAT GSD. I manage to get an interview (not an job offer...yet) with them ... around next week, and they did asked whether I'm a smoker or not. But, I'm not a smoker type. So, they asked whether there will be any problem to me since, most of the time, all people surrounding me will be smoking all da way...lol.

After reading the 1st post till the last 1, it seems like they are really bad in management. Together with the amount of smoke surrounding, it could be very worse for a non-smoker. Just curious, is it true that, those smokers...will still smoking around the work place (although is in the aircond area)?
Just wanna know the level of...smoke there.Lol.

Oh ya, the job is business analyst.

Just got an invitation for management trainee post... but looking at their HR way of using Email... Im reconsidering whether to attend or not...

Email? U mean like...messy?

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This post has been edited by dzinergy: May 22 2007, 11:19 PM

ooo...travel locally, or out from M'sia mostly?

I also want job at the BAT. Dunno can get or not? HOW!?

Staff dunno how to use BCC... so he/she used CC instead.. and flooded everyone's email and each other's email address....

This post has been edited by Kayne: May 8 2007, 09:28 AM

you guys are talking about GSD right ? how bout the main operations in PJ?

Really doubt that you would be working for BAT with that level of English. I am in BAT and I know how tough it was to get into this company. Highly suspicious that you did not mention on the english and maths assessment tests needed to get through.

hello everyone! Good day. I am new here. I spent a few years time with Marketing & Merchandising background in Sony & Samsung. I am planning to get a job in the tobacco industry. Can anyone help me out by giving an correct direction on how to get a job in BAT/JTI/PMI?? Does it require internal staff recommendation?? Coz i failed several times by applying thru Jobstreet.com
Pls do not hesitate to share ur experience & advise, no matter ex-BAT or current BAT staff.....I appreciate it VERY much.TQ!

which function is the easiest to get in at british american tobacco?
(marketing, finance, or others??)

don't think this world got easy job 1 la..every department have their own responsibility..

to get in is not easy.. all department is the same depending on your skill.. so if you are suitable for one department then u can get in.. if not all department oso susah

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:30 PM

Tell them they're carcinogenic.

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:30 PM

Duh, dont talk like BAT only employ smart-asses. BAT too, have many incompetent employees. Pff...

Many corporate companies like that..

But they all stay for the benefits only..ahaha

Thats the point. Not easy to get in? Get to know a few GM`s there. You can get in without doin all those dumb test. Thats is the smartest way of all. Duh.

dammn...sounds good in BAT huh ?

was called up for interview from them suddenly without apply anything just after i graduated. but some reason i can't attend interview that time, miss the chance =(

join now also no use
the benefits all withdrawn already for new staff

let me guess: non-smokers will be boycotted in such company?

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:29 PM

Yes non-smoker is boycott.

as a wat? based in pj or bkt jalil?

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:29 PM

for wat purpose?

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:29 PM

Registering a company will take more than an hour,usually.

But question.Why do you need to register a company?Aren't you curious at all?

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:28 PM

are they hiring now?

wow, non-smoker got boycott there, seems like not quite well for me haha

haha
the fact is smoker boycott non smoker and vice versa

so why worry?
the only thing is u got less benefits if u join now
no more free ciggie

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:28 PM

guys any idea how much BAT MT gets?

RM3500?

what are some of the benefits working for BAT? besides the free cigarettes...

global service desk exec ... take care of wut? remote desktop support?

Well my sister's old company also required her to register a company under her name. That way they pay to that company and not required to pay EPF...

This is one way employers get out of paying EPF.

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:26 PM

need someone to clarify whether it is true BAT ask you to reg company when entering their company.

it's a bit far fetched to say a big MNC will flout the EPF law openly like that.

it applies to only certain position in GSD i guess.
wat is the job grade?

33? 32?

BAT doing well than HP. So go for cigarette.

BAT, smoking industry cannot go far.. the company is putting up alot of gimmick to trick frsh job seeker.. pay looks good and high but after that its not what u expect

What do you mean after that?Care to explain.

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:26 PM

I heard once from a friend who was an intern with them that they have this policy where everyone vote before the meeting whether it shall be smoking or smoke-free meeting. If one person disagree, the meeting has be to done smoke-free. But during this meeting there was this pregnant lady and the rest of the people just disregard her and continue smoking without asking for a vote.

Says a lot about its culture...

(I just restating what my friend told me)

r u sure on this... dont simply say lah have u work there before ?

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This post has been edited by sivapc: Jul 26 2019, 12:26 PM

Anyone work in BAT Aspac Service Centre before? Located at TPM. Seems like its a newly established BPO for BAT asia pacific.
Want to know about the working environment, benefits, salaries..etc..
anyone??

This post has been edited by aska: Jan 18 2011, 04:34 PM