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post Jan 5 2011, 03:33 PM

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Anyone work in BAT Aspac Service Centre before? Located at TPM. Seems like its a newly established BPO for BAT asia pacific.
Want to know about the working environment, benefits, salaries..etc..
anyone?? rclxub.gif

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can anyone clear my doubts why BAT needs one to open a SDN BHD company for some contract positions?
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post Mar 29 2011, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(aska @ Jan 5 2011, 03:33 PM)
Anyone work in BAT Aspac Service Centre before? Located at TPM. Seems like its a newly established BPO for BAT asia pacific.
Want to know about the working environment, benefits, salaries..etc..
anyone?? rclxub.gif
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I just enter on last year. PM me if u wanna know mor
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post Mar 29 2011, 11:35 PM

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I just enter on last year. PM me if u wanna know mor
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what is the requirement brother i mean from qualification , experience etc..
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post Jul 3 2011, 04:10 AM

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Have been offered a job as an Operation Cell Executive at British American Tobacco and am still considering whether to or not to accept it. Still putting in a lot of thoughts into it.

Would appreciate it if any current or former employees of British American Tobacco Malaysia can share their experiences together with the PRO's & CON's of working there.
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post Jul 4 2011, 02:16 PM

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hmm...can i know the salary offer range?

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post Jul 4 2011, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jul 3 2011, 04:10 AM)
Have been offered a job as an Operation Cell Executive at British American Tobacco and am still considering whether to or not to accept it. Still putting in a lot of thoughts into it.

Would appreciate it if any current or former employees of British American Tobacco Malaysia can share their experiences together with the PRO's & CON's of working there.
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Don't know how the environment there right now. Previously, during my time they offered a good salary... nice environment since myself also a smoker. My operator use to collect the testing ciggy for me to bring home.....nice company to work...every exec have their own ROOM....
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post Jul 4 2011, 11:25 PM

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I think its very hard to get into fmcg tobacco firms, unless, outstanding or through network. I dont have both, but really wish to join them sad.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jul 3 2011, 04:10 AM)
Have been offered a job as an Operation Cell Executive at British American Tobacco and am still considering whether to or not to accept it. Still putting in a lot of thoughts into it.

Would appreciate it if any current or former employees of British American Tobacco Malaysia can share their experiences together with the PRO's & CON's of working there.
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I was with BAT Malaysia for 8 months as an Operations Management Trainee, and left the company in July this year.

To share a bit of my experience, no doubt the company has a grand reputation but personally my experience there was far from rosy. It depends on the individual I guess, on what they really want in their career. No doubt the company's perks and benefits ranks among the best in Malaysia (I'm with an oil and gas company now and BAT's progressive salary is much higher) but they do come at a price. I reckon you've either been offered a job in the Primary Manufacturing Department, or Secondary Manufacturing Department.

The Good: Pay package is good. BAT is at par with some of the top oil and gas companies and better than a lot of others. Benefit-wise isnt bad (3 cartons of Dunhill Lights and RM220 credit for food at cafeteria- which gives you about RM400++ extra each month)If you are in the management team, and get on the listership programme, your career is pretty much accelerated. Its a fairly small company in terms of the structure. As an OCE, you will get in as a Grade 35. The GM is a Grade 41. So you are only 6 grades away from the GM and a high-performer is expected to go up-grades on average once every 3 years. The current Ops Director only took about 10-12 years to get from Management Trainee to Ops Director. Learning curve is steep and you pick up a lot of good management skills there. Dont expect to be working with super smart people tho. Its not the most mentally-challenging job, more of a physically and emotionally challenging job.

The Bad: Be prepared to sacrifice your personal time and personal life. Even if you have a family. As an OCE, your average daily working hours would be 12 hours at the minimum. And weekends you're in, constantly and because you're management, don't expect to get OT. Like it or not, its an FMCG, in a very challenging (yet profitable) industry. Cost-cutting exercise is the name of the game in the industry, so labour power is at bare minimum. One person is expected to do a 3 person's job. Don't be fooled that because it is a MNC it is run like one. The management team is predominantly Malaysian, so expect it to be run like a china-man company. If boss says do, you do! So politics is rife. In order to succeed and climb up quickly, as long as you can impress the few people at the top even without having any real substance then you're in for a long prosperous career in BAT.

I left BAT because I didnt want to get stuck in the tobacco industry or FMCG industry had I stayed there for 3-4 years. Thats the general case the way I see it. Was also not happy that my life was dictated by work, not the other way round. I do admit that it will look good on your CV and will make heads turn if you tell ppl you're from BAT. Career development is fantastic within the company, but I think it has its limitations if you don't intend to stay for too long.

Hope this insight helps. All the best.

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post Oct 19 2011, 04:54 PM

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What a relief to know much infos about the BAT but mostly here talk on management level.

I have an interview soon with BAT for Technician position. If any of you have any experiences, would you mind to share what sort of question they will ask and would it be english and mathematics assesment? I left technical job for 3 years and my memory on all the techncial aspect going fade, would they ask too much on technical side?

Thank you.
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post Oct 19 2011, 10:07 PM

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hhhmmm, is the IT that bad ? I thought the whole IT dept already outsource ? except the management roles only ? why got people say join now also no use, they cut the benefit already ? which benefit already cut ?

anyone here knows the salary range for BAT ?
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post Oct 20 2011, 09:19 AM

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oiinkydoiinky,

since your in operation, how about other department, maybe HR, finance and etc.?

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post Dec 2 2011, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(oiinkydoiinky @ Aug 26 2011, 06:38 AM)
I was with BAT Malaysia for 8 months as an Operations Management Trainee, and left the company in July this year.

To share a bit of my experience, no doubt the company has a grand reputation but personally my experience there was  far from rosy. It depends on the individual I guess, on what they really want in their career. No doubt the company's perks and benefits ranks among the best in Malaysia (I'm with an oil and gas company now and BAT's progressive salary is much higher) but they do come at a price. I reckon you've either been offered a job in the Primary Manufacturing Department, or Secondary Manufacturing Department.

The Good: Pay package is good. BAT is at par with some of the top oil and gas companies and better than a lot of others. Benefit-wise isnt bad (3 cartons of Dunhill Lights and RM220 credit for food at cafeteria- which gives you about RM400++ extra each month)If you are in the management team, and get on the listership programme, your career is pretty much accelerated. Its a fairly small company in terms of the structure. As an OCE, you will get in as a Grade 35. The GM is a Grade 41. So you are only 6 grades away from the GM and a high-performer is expected to go up-grades on average once every 3 years. The current Ops Director only took about 10-12 years to get from Management Trainee to Ops Director. Learning curve is steep and you pick up a lot of good management skills there. Dont expect to be working with super smart people tho. Its not the most mentally-challenging job, more of a physically and emotionally challenging job.

The Bad: Be prepared to sacrifice your personal time and personal life. Even if you have a family. As an OCE, your average daily working hours would be 12 hours at the minimum. And weekends you're in, constantly and because you're management, don't expect to get OT. Like it or not, its an FMCG, in a very challenging (yet profitable) industry. Cost-cutting exercise is the name of the game in the industry, so labour power is at bare minimum. One person is expected to do a 3 person's job. Don't be fooled that because it is a MNC it is run like one. The  management team is predominantly Malaysian, so expect it to be run like a china-man company. If boss says do, you do! So politics is rife. In order to succeed and climb up quickly, as long as you can impress the few people at the top even without having any real substance then you're in for a long prosperous career in BAT.

I left BAT because I didnt want to get stuck in the tobacco industry or FMCG industry had I stayed there for 3-4 years. Thats the general case the way I see it. Was also not happy that my life was dictated by work, not the other way round. I do admit that it will look good on your CV and will make heads turn if you tell ppl you're from BAT. Career development is fantastic within the company, but I think it has its limitations if you don't intend to stay for too long.

Hope this insight helps. All the best.
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QUOTE(irush @ Jul 4 2011, 09:01 PM)
Don't know how the environment there right now. Previously, during my time they offered a good salary... nice environment since myself also a smoker. My operator use to collect the testing ciggy for me to bring home.....nice company to work...every exec have their own ROOM....
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can you define good salary ? it's just too vague...
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post Mar 16 2012, 05:12 PM

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[quote=shaquenator,Mar 12 2012, 02:30 PM]
can you define good salary ? it's just too vague...
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good salary mean more higher than expected salary...that's for my case...
can't compare with current condition...
it's about eight years ago...
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[quote=irush,Mar 16 2012, 05:12 PM]
[quote=shaquenator,Mar 12 2012, 02:30 PM]
can you define good salary ? it's just too vague...
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good salary mean more higher than expected salary...that's for my case...
can't compare with current condition...
it's about eight years ago...
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define means state out the salary number. not use sentence to describe.
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post Mar 20 2012, 08:41 PM

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why should I...I don't think it's important..

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post Mar 22 2012, 09:32 PM

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Salary is above market rate. Just got into BAT (marketing) as management trainee. 2 years.
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post Jul 19 2012, 09:12 AM

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I agree with oiinkydoiinky there.

I joined BAT for a few months and then left before my confirmation as I didn't see my future there. Sure, it is a great place to work. Benefits are way up there, a notch above the average. Salary is also very good - they pay above the market rate.

Personally development however remains a big question mark.

Like every company, politics abound. Management consist of some good ones but also some very young ones who obviously have got the skills to hold the position, but not yet there in terms of emotional maturity.

I wanted to have a job that would keep me grounded in the country (my previous job had me travelling too much) but despite the good pay and the fantastic benefits, it is not a place I saw myself growing as a person. If I had stayed, I would be like one or two of the senior management team there - it is not that they don't want to leave the organisation, I'm sure. They just were promoted too fast, and do not have sufficient skills that the market out there wants so these few will end up working for the rest of their lives in BAT because they have no where else to go.

If you can tolerate all that, then BAT really isn't that bad a place. There are some great people there.

Incidentally, I heard they have very good bonus schemes - last year my ex colleagues there got 6 months, so there's something to consider about

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