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Chat PROTON CAR ACCIDENT - COMPILATION REAL WORLD CRASH, Preve, Suprima, Iriz, Persona (2nd Gen)

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TSsyafiqsm
post Jun 3 2017, 12:08 AM

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Proton Preve AND Toyota Prado

A criminal suspect rammed into the Police's PREVE, but ended up his car plunged into a ditch. No other photos available.


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TEMBAKAN DI KENINGAU - CUBAAN BUNUH ANGGOTA POLIS

Maklum satu kes cuba bunuh yang disiasat di bawah Seksyen 307 Kanun Keseksaan. (Cubaab Bunuh terhadap anggota Polis)

A). NO. Repot: KENINGAU/RPT/ 0243/2017 - JSJ/KS/014/2017
B). Tarikh: 10.01.2017 @ 2236 hrs
C). Kesalahan: Seksyen 307 (Kanun Keseksaan)
D). IO Kes: Insp/P Izwan Bin Abdul Rani
E).Tempat kejadian: Kawasan Jalan Ansip, Keningau, Sabah
F). Tarikh Kejadian: Pada 10.01.2017 @ 1730 hrs
G). Pengadu:D/Sjn Hasnal Bin *****, L/ 44 Tahun, No IC : 72**** - ** - **** @
RF/12***3 B/Bisaya, K/Polis, A/ Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah, IPD Keningau
H). Mangsa: Kpl Ryan P**** ******* ****, L/34 Tahun, No IC : 82**** - ** - ****
@ RF/15***5 B/Dusun, K/ Polis, A/Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah, IPD Keningau
I). Rampasan: Sebuah kenderaan Toyota Prado dan 3 bilah parang
J). Keterangan kes:

Pada 10.01.2017 jam 2236hrs satu laporan polis telah dibuat oleh pengadu menyatakan pada 10.01.2017 jam lebih kurang 1730hrs semasa pengadu bersama D/Sjn Saftu, D/Sjn Francis, D/Sjn Steven, D/Kpl Nazri, Kpl Ryan, Kpl Marcellus, Kpl Martin, Kpl Johari, Kpl Shairuddin dan Konst Anwar membuat tugas Ops Lejang di kawasan Jalan Ansip menaiki keenderaan pasukan van W** **** dan Proton Preve W **** untuk mengesan kenderaan curi di Daerah Keningau. Semasa tugasan dibuat, pasukan polis telah melihat sebuah kenderaan jenis Prado warna putih yang mencurigakan. Kenderaan pasukan van W** **** telah masuk ke jalan kebun kelapa sawit manakala kereta pasukan proton Preve W **** menunggu di simpang jalan kerana tidak dapat memasuki jalan tersebut. Selang beberapa minit, secara tiba - tiba telah datang sebuah kenderaan jenis Toyota Prado warna putih dengan dipandu secara melulu ke arah kenderaan Preve yang berada di tepi jalan. Kenderaan Prado tersebut telah melanggar kereta pasukan Preve dan terbabas ke dalam longkang manakala kereta Preve mengalami kerosakan di hadapan sebelah kanan dan tidak boleh bergerak. Semasa anggota polis hendak menangkap saspek, saspek telah menyerang anggota polis dengan parang dan tembakan telah dilepaskan bagi menyelematkan anggota polis menyebabkan saspek mengalami kecederaan.

Siasatan awal mendapati pengadu bersama Kpl Ryan, Kpl Shairudin dan Konst Anwar menaiki kereta pasukan Proton Preve W **** berada di bawah simpang Jalan Kg Ansip manakala anggota lain menaiki van menuju ke arah saspek yang pada masa tersebut menaiki kereta Prado putih bernombor pendaftaran SAB 1987 W (disyaki palsu). Lebih kurang 5 minit, setelah menyedari kehadiran pihak polis, saspek yang menaiki Prado putih telah melulu untuk keluar dan telah melanggar kenderaan pasukan Proton Preve W ****. Akibat pelanggaran tersebut, kenderaan dinaiki saspek telah terbabas masuk ke dalam longkang dan saspek telah keluar memegang parang dan cuba menyerang Kpl Ryan untuk melarikan diri. Saspek telah melibas parang ke arah Kpl Ryan dengan jarak lebih kurang 2 kaki menyebabkan Kpl Ryan jatuh kerana mengelak. Saspek sekali lagi melibas parang ke arah Kpl Ryan dan kena di betis kaki kiri Kpl Ryan. Pada masa yang sama Konst Anwar yang melihat kejadian telah melepaskan 3 das tembakan dari jarak lebih kurang 16 kaki bertujuan untuk menyelamatkan Kpl Ryan.

Siasatan lanjut mendapati, saspek dan Kpl Ryan telah cedera dan telah dibawa ke Hospital Keningau untuk rawatan lanjut. Hasil rawatan terhadap saspek mendapati saspek telah terkena tembakan di bahu kanan, luka di lengan kiri dan punggung sebelah kiri. Walau bagaimanapun, saspek dalam keadaan stabil dan akan menjalani pembedahan untuk mengeluarkan peluru dari punggungnya. Hasil rawatan terhadap Kpl Ryan mendapati Kpl Ryan mengalami kesan tetakan panjang lebih kurang 8 cm. Siasatan terhadap kenderaan yang dinaiki saspek mendapati kenderaan tersebut dilaporkan hilang bersabit MENGGATAL/RPT/216/17- KK/JSJ/KS/41/17 IO kes Insp Idrus *** *****.

K). Tangkapan: Rendeh Bin Kapitoh, L/ 32 Tahun, No IC : 840705-12-6671,
B/ Murut, K/ penoreh getah, A/ Kg Mempulut, Keningau, Sabah
L). Tindakan yang telah diambil:
1. Merakam percakapan pengadu
2. Menjalankan siasatan tempat kejadian
3. Mengambil gambar tempat kejadian.
4. Merakam percakapan pengadu
5. Memohon bantuan Forensik IPK
M). Tindakan yang akan diambil:
1. Memaklumkan
IO kes bersabit
MANGGATAL/
RPT/216/17.
2. Mengambil rakaman percakapan saksi bebas.
3. Mengambil percakapan saspek.
4. Memohon reman ke atas saspek
N). Lain-lain: Siasatan masih diteruskan.


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This post has been edited by syafiqsm: Jun 6 2017, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Jun 2 2017, 09:28 PM)
Yes,  these so called test also has their weaknesses which manufacturer tends to exploit. When actual crash do happen, only chassis can save you from kissing your own engine, the other feature which they exploited to get more stars only help lessen the impact/avoid it.
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I agree. The crash test doesn't tell the whole story. The public should always use real world crash to decide for themselves whether the car has acceptable crashworthiness.
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jun 3 2017, 12:19 AM)
does the new geely boyue aka bayu got hpf?
the china-ncap rate it 5 star
http://www.autohome.com.cn/tech/201609/892750.html#p1

video
http://v.bitauto.com/vplay/433951.html
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Interesting question Fireballs!

I have been asking myself the same question. But I haven't started any research on that yet. That SUV was designed by Volvo team. Not sure about its safety level though.
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post Jun 3 2017, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jun 3 2017, 01:02 AM)
if the bayu is under 100k... sure will kill a lot of competitors

in china its priced at rmb 110k-180k
means 70k-113k myr
add in 50% tax should get 105k-170k

judging from the videos, they included side impact and it looks quite decent.
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But, bear in mind the stigma attached to CHINA MADE PRODUCTS. The competitors will go all out to highlight that. "Ewwwww itu barang cina mali punya, low kualiti"

I think Proton marketing team has to devise good sales strategy to face this stigma.

Volvo is a good association. They must highlight this.

Yes, I already watched the video. My eyes were fixated to the A-pillar all the time. It was very decent. The overall SUV reaction to the crash test has Volvo XC90's composure to it. I'm impressed.

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Proton Preve AND Proton Saga


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Proton Preve AND Honda Civic


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post Jun 3 2017, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 13 2017, 10:51 PM)
lol, HPF is just the steel forming technology la
you measure steel by its tensile strength, not whether its HPF or not.
if dont use HPF then use other methods to make the steel parts become ultra high strength.
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QUOTE(Perwaja @ May 14 2017, 12:30 AM)
nice thread
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 30 2017, 07:55 AM)
I noticed after accident, i see the windsxreen on passenger side always got crack. I winder is the passenger airbags caused that?
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 30 2017, 07:57 AM)
What i mean is the front windscreen
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Yes. It was due to front passenger's airbag. I'm not sure whether this is a design fault, or it was intended to be like that.



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QUOTE(waiora_protuner @ May 14 2017, 12:40 AM)
just join any road traffic/info info group in facebook or whatsapp

see if you still want to buy perodua...
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QUOTE(small-jeff @ May 14 2017, 01:09 AM)
ekcelli, hot-press doesnt matter. what matters is how it's cooled down

the article said it's quenched to 4dC to for martensitic structure = fail (if full martensite)

martensitic = high hardness, no ductility, low impact strength = macam glass

then again, if it's use at the front of vehicle, still ok - it's meant to break and stop the transfer of energy to the passengers (like how F1 cars will shatter to billion pieces upon impact)

i think the standard material used today would at least be HSLA and forming a 2 phase (2 microstructure) steel through heat treatment (heat to ~800dC and controlled cooling)
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ May 14 2017, 09:58 PM)
preve cabin looks intact even during head on collisions
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QUOTE(fireballs @ May 14 2017, 11:11 PM)
usually, perodua marketing team would already be reading this, right?
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QUOTE(memekfalui @ May 15 2017, 07:37 AM)
Macai proton pun Kerja keras macam macai BN cybertrooper laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ May 15 2017, 09:48 AM)
Can someone start a similar Perodua thread?
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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 16 2017, 01:31 AM)
Bukan pasal tech orang reject Proton, sebab buat bisnes dasar kroni orang tak yakin pada quality product. Ini belum cakap pasal QC lagi yang sejak zaman 80an dah cam sial.
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Semoga pengambilalihan oleh Geely membuka lembaran baru kepada perniagaan automotif Proton
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QUOTE(dares @ May 16 2017, 02:14 AM)
On the flip side....

Victims who survive an accident in a safe Proton whereby the car is written off, suddenly found themselves in a financial quandary because the total loss payout is not enough to settle their 9 year loan due to poor market value (and hence insured value) of Proton cars

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This is a known "risk". I've been thinking about how Proton can improve its cars' market value. Perhaps by launching an aftermarket modification company that can provide a Proton-approved modification for second-hand cars. I don't know. Maybe they can provide options to change the Campro engines to Mitsubishi for a price. Or perhaps they can "refurbish" second-hand cars and give extended warranty for that, just change here and there, the way Apple does for its Macbooks.

I don't mind buying a refurbish Proton cars (HPF-only models).

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ May 17 2017, 09:40 PM)
Cheapest that I can get and it looks better. Through this answer I believe most /k will think I'm retarded but yes I go for looks. 

There are other factors that come into play but these 2 tops it off.

I could go second hand preve but prefer 1st hand.
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I always believe that the cost of Proton cars (with HPF) can be lowered further to give access to those who really in need.

Take Iriz for example. Perhaps, by reducing certain components, it can reach a wider audience. Just scrap power windows, radio, remote control locking, projector headlamps, alloy rims and a few other fancy stuffs. BUT! keep all the safety features in it including ESC and HPF steels. The same thing for Persona. Call it "Super Standard" version.

In Indonesia, there is a very cheap version of Toyota Vios where they removed so many things, and only leave the basics. The same thing for entry level Perodua Axia.

Sell Iriz around 30k for manual and 34k for CVT. Sell Persona around 40k for manual and 44k for CVT.

This is how Proton can do Rakyat a justice.

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QUOTE(gogocan @ May 19 2017, 07:49 AM)
Old model vs new model. this head on collision proves that proton really improve its safety aspect by leap & bounds. Good job.

If i in the market for sub $75k car, preve will be on the top list.
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Great choice!
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jun 3 2017, 06:06 AM)
That not the preve that collide with saga right?
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Saga hit Preve's left side. Before it rammed into a trailer.

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