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post Apr 30 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 30 2017, 10:15 AM)
nothing is cleaned other than fuel injection nozzle & internal combustion camber which is not required to be cleaned since everything inside gets disintegrated by the time it exits the exhaust the Techron gimmick already loss it's function.

might as well spend the money pumping V-Power at least you get more omph, or those high octane pills.

totally wasted the money and god knows what damage you did (to ur engine & ur health) for pouring 4 bottles in a near empty tank.
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By having a clean fuel injector, it will gv u better power as no obstacle like carbon deposit kacau the injection of the fuel. Especially those DI engine like in Mazda Skyactive. The fuel pressure is so high.
Deswai in the bottle it said, restore back lost power. Especially for those old car.

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post Apr 30 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 30 2017, 09:39 AM)
Eh this is back , last time I went no more

Awesome

The smell is actually the additive burning hotter to remove deposits , that's why air cooled engines cannot use , it will overheat
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I know right biggrin.gif the smell of the burning is so good.

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post Apr 30 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 30 2017, 10:52 AM)
By having a clean fuel injection, it will gv u better power as no obstacle like carbon deposit kacau the injection of the fuel. Especially those DI engine like in Mazda Skyactive. The fuel pressure is so high.
Deswai in the bottle it said, restore back power. Especially for those old car.
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you don't need 4 bottles just to clean the fuel injector. and rarely fuel injector gets stucked because carbon deposits happen where temperature difference is hig and there is no liquid flow to flush the deposits, for example above the intake valves where the temperature is lower than the combustion camber when the intake valve opens vaporized carbon deposits will gather above the intakes & start to resolidify & build up.

that build up would be your main concern for such engine because air pathway has been blocked, not the fuel injectors.

might as well save the money to spend on decarbonizing once every 30k km.
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:02 AM

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TS u din read insruction. Should be used without petril. U drive till tank empty then fill up with these only. Fuel replacement. Try it and i guaranted ur car no noise d
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 30 2017, 10:57 AM)
you don't need 4 bottles just to clean the fuel injector. and rarely fuel injector gets stucked because carbon deposits happen where temperature difference is hig and there is no liquid flow to flush the deposits, for example above the intake valves where the temperature is lower than the combustion camber when the intake valve opens vaporized carbon deposits will gather above the intakes & start to resolidify & build up.

that build up would be your main concern for such engine because air pathway has been blocked, not the fuel injectors.

might as well save the money to spend on decarbonizing once every 30k km.
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so fuel injector cleaner does literally nothing? So fo lets say a 10 year old car only clock 40k 100 per cent short journey town drive what extra thing i can do to make the engine almost brand new
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:10 AM

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Dont mess with your engine by mixing any additive

Just pump their petrol is enough

There is no proof that your engine needed to be cleaned or cleaner after the mix

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QUOTE(urnicksux2 @ Apr 30 2017, 09:36 AM)
too little,should put 20 at once...guarantee will save fuel
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Apr 30 2017, 11:06 AM)
so fuel injector cleaner does literally nothing? So fo lets say a 10 year old car only clock 40k 100 per cent short journey town drive what extra thing i can do to make the engine almost brand new
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fuel injector cleaner does what it says, cleaning fuel injectors.

this Techron product is designed not just to clean fuel injectors but also the engine internal itself.

due to the way Direct Fuel injection engine works, fuel is sprayed directly into the combustion compartment instead of premix with air then passes tru the intake into the combustion, so the cleaner doesn't come into contact with anything outside Fuel Injector & Combustion Camber.

this applies to DIRECT FUEL INJECTION Engines like VW, Audi, New Merc, New BMW, High End Toyotas, Lexus, Infinity, and even now some new Hyundai & Kia models.

btw, some cars have both Direct Injection + Normal Fuel Injection Combo, so cleaners will work on them, for example GT86 & BRZ.

low tech cars & old cars still use normal fuel injection system so the cleaner will still work on those engines.

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QUOTE(zoozooka @ Apr 30 2017, 11:10 AM)
Dont mess with your engine by mixing any additive

Just pump their petrol is enough

There is no proof that your engine needed to be cleaned or cleaner after the mix
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a good indication of engine needs decarbonizing is when you feel sluggish or lack of power. usually mileage gives a good indication, once every 30k km.

a good way to reduce carbon build up, is not to turn off the engine right after a drive, let it cool down in idle abit, then turn off, this will lower the temperature difference between the intake valve & combustion camber, which will lower the chance of carbon build ups.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 30 2017, 11:20 AM)
fuel injector cleaner does what it says, cleaning fuel injectors.

this Techron product is designed not just to clean fuel injectors but also the engine internal itself.

due to the way Direct Fuel injection engine works, fuel is sprayed directly into the combustion compartment instead of premix with air then passes tru the intake into the combustion, so the cleaner doesn't come into contact with anything outside Fuel Injector & Combustion Camber.

this applies to DIRECT FUEL INJECTION Engines like VW, Audi, New Merc, New BMW, High End Toyotas, Lexus, Infinity, and even now some new Hyundai & Kia models.

low tech cars & old cars still use normal fuel injection system so the cleaner will still work on those engines.
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cars like 5 to 10 years old altis vios le
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Apr 30 2017, 11:23 AM)
cars like 5 to 10 years old altis vios le
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don't worry then, only high end Toyotas uses direct injection.

i'm not sure if current Camry Hybrid & Prius uses them or not.

previously, only Toyota models that uses that are Toyota Mark X & Crown.
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 30 2017, 11:23 AM)
a good indication of engine needs decarbonizing is when you feel sluggish or lack of power. usually mileage gives a good indication, once every 30k km.

a good way to reduce carbon build up, is not to turn off the engine right after a drive, let it cool down in idle abit, then turn off, this will lower the temperature difference between the intake valve & combustion camber, which will lower the chance of carbon build ups.
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Just some marketing trick used to get money from consumers pocket with the name of science

Old cars are supposed to be old and sluggish. Engine will wear out naturally.
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 30 2017, 11:26 AM)
don't worry then, only high end Toyotas uses direct injection.

i'm not sure if current Camry Hybrid & Prius uses them or not.

previously, only Toyota models that uses that are Toyota Mark X & Crown.
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alright. I'm planning to have a major service of my altis. Should i just get the toyota own injector cleaner or caltex or bg44k
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put mothballs inside your fuel tank brah
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QUOTE(zoozooka @ Apr 30 2017, 11:33 AM)
Just some marketing trick used to get money from consumers pocket with the name of science

Old cars are supposed to be old and sluggish. Engine will wear out naturally.
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hi, i'm sure you don't drive any high end car models or contis, because the difference is substantial if you did not decarbonize the engine between 30-50k km.

also, most SC never tell you you need to do this, because the whole process is very labor intensive, takes few hours just to clean out the carbons, and outside shop not many know how to do it.

and obviously, you need to replace the seals & gasket together since you can't reuse them.

it's like the disadvantage of Direct Injection Engine that no one wants to tell you about.
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1 bottle with 40L petrol
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Apr 30 2017, 11:37 AM)
alright. I'm planning to have a major service of my altis. Should i just get the toyota own injector cleaner or caltex or bg44k
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most of the time Toyota just rebrand. as long u check the spec is same then OK.

u can also try those sold in ACE Hardware.

anyway carbon build up still happens on normal Fuel Injection cars, just they happen much slower, like maybe 200k km? usually no need to clean until major overhaul they do together.

when u say major service, like what?

the cleaner only cleans the engine, it's not 100%, and may take few tries to clean out resilient residues. Also you need to run the car high speed to get more air flow & fuel mixture to be effective.

carbon build up not just depend on fuel quality, but also driving condition, like i say, more temp difference between combustion camber & intake, more build ups, esp when you turn off engine immediately after a drive, or lots of start-stop situations.
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 30 2017, 10:52 AM)
By having a clean fuel injector, it will gv u better power as no obstacle like carbon deposit kacau the injection of the fuel. Especially those DI engine like in Mazda Skyactive. The fuel pressure is so high.
Deswai in the bottle it said, restore back lost power. Especially for those old car.

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sorry bro, ur picture also shows intake valve top, which doesn't work on DI engines.

only clean the intake valve botton & injector which rarely gets stuck.

u will still suffer air blockage at the intake causing AF ratio issues. like a blocked nose.

only way to clean out the carbon on the intake is open up the engine and manually scrub it.

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 30 2017, 11:47 AM)
most of the time Toyota just rebrand. as long u check the spec is same then OK.

u can also try those sold in ACE Hardware.

anyway carbon build up still happens on normal Fuel Injection cars, just they happen much slower, like maybe 200k km? usually no need to clean until major overhaul they do together.

when u say major service, like what?

the cleaner only cleans the engine, it's not 100%, and may take few tries to clean out resilient residues. Also you need to run the car high speed to get more air flow & fuel mixture to be effective.

carbon build up not just depend on fuel quality, but also driving condition, like i say, more temp difference between combustion camber & intake, more build ups, esp when you turn off engine immediately after a drive, or lots of start-stop situations.
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major as in that car never had anything serviced apart from engine oil for 5 years d. Time to change everythinf one shot. Super low mileage car
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post Apr 30 2017, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Apr 30 2017, 11:54 AM)
major as in that car never had anything serviced apart from engine oil for 5 years d. Time to change everythinf one shot. Super low mileage car
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wow you didn't change ATF Fluid, flush+change brake fluid & power steering fluid & brake pads or change tyres?

well, it's only 5 years, nothing much to work on the engine other than, Engine Oil & Filter. i doubt ur engine needs cleaning if you say low mileage.

Engine Oil & ATF Fluid is recommended to change during recommended intervals, esp ATF fluid because automatic gears are fragile, engine oil if low tech engine can delay longer before oil change but ATF is not worth skimping because Gear repair is very expensive.

The tyres also needs replacement due to rubber aging. side walls might crack & puncture anytime.

you did not send ur car to SC during warranty periods?

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