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 Blu-Ray wins the HD format War, Sony's gamble with Blu-ray on the PS3

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BurgaFlippinMan
post Jan 9 2008, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 9 2008, 07:56 AM)
So what they really win in this war after that????  sweat.gif
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Warner has 20% of the DVD market share, now Blu-Ray exclusive. Go figure. wink.gif
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post Jan 25 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Jan 25 2008, 06:35 PM)
The battle is not over... The "source" I have that keeps feeding me HD DVD news non-stop... and it seems (until today) there will be new titles as far as June 2008... with the official title of something "special" in May...  biggrin.gif Can't for that title.
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Indiana Jones perhaps? It does seem to tie in nicely wiht the May release of the new film, and its Paramount distributed.
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post Jan 27 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 27 2008, 02:19 AM)
I don't know about 'better' (apart from the capacity). BluRay doesnt seem to support the cool stuff HD DVD is able to (like on the 300 or Order of the Phoenix HDDVDs). That said, one of the main reasons I'd hate to see Sony win any format war is because Sony has this history of forcing weird DRMs onto consumers. Boo!
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post Jan 28 2008, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 27 2008, 06:30 PM)
i dont really know what difference in terms of interactivity between these 2 format?

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Go here and read the section on 'HD Bonus Content: Any Exclusive Goodies in There?'


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about DRM, isn't both also offer the same level of copy-protection?


Who is to say that in the future Sony wouldnt try and pull off another rootkit fiasco? wink.gif
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post Jan 28 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 28 2008, 12:37 PM)
Yup, the quality is the same but the larger storage really make the difference...as it, why you only get the DD sound on Transformer and not lossless audio? ........ because it does not have enough storage space for the lossless audio track!!!

If HD DVD start the game with a 3 layer 51GB disc...it would be a total different game....
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Doesnt HD DVD support Dolby TrueHD which is a lossless format? Blu Ray may have the uncompressed PCM audio, but why take up so much space when lossless codecs are available? An analog to this is have .wav files versus say, FLAC. Besides, how many people can tell the difference between lossy and lossless at that point anyway? Plus, the Matrix films on HD-DVD have lossless audio to boot.


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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 28 2008, 01:15 PM)
My guess is that if data is unaltered, direct through HDMI shouldn't be any different. Any difference will be from any sharpening or other enhancement features  from the player or the LCD-TV itself.
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I'm no expert, but I think there should be a difference. I mean, there are RM399 dvd players and RM5000 dvd players. There is a difference.

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post Jan 29 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 28 2008, 04:05 PM)
Like I said previously, those DVD players make use of their visual enhancement features for better quality picture. This is especially important since ordinary DVD players are designed for output via  analog cables where PQ degrades in quality according to the type of cable used.

Even upscaling players with HDMI need those enhancements (not because of the cable quality) but due to artifacts arising from the upscaling. Since the original pic at 480 is upscaled to 720 or 1080 it need a lot of help in terms of sharpening, contrast, noise reduction etc and also a good upscaling Chip.

But for HD sources like Blu-ray or HD-DVD , there is mininum enhancement required because the pic itself is already in the same High resolution format as the highest resolution LCD panel. And furthermore data delivered over HDMI won't degrade in PQ since it's digital signal.

So my guess is there won't be much enhancement needed  for Blu-ray player as far as PQ is concerned. Whatever differences noticed will most probably be due to the adjustments of the LCD-TV itself.

But at higher price, those stand alone players probably have better parts like lens and electronic components that last longer and also better built in support for TrueHD sound.

But that's just my general impression so I could be wrong. I don't mind being corrected  smile.gif
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Don't players need to decode the video and audio first? But even if the player is just used as a 'transport', doesn't the ability to retrieve and move data as cleanly as possible vary among models (and price)? Its the reason why some amps have a feature to bypass certain boards not in use to minimize loss in quality. What makes HD any different?

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jan 28 2008, 10:17 PM)
That's true but the issue here is Transformers on HDDVD only had Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 and not Dolby TrueHD due to space constraint. sweat.gif
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Are you sure its really space constraint or just the studio deciding not to put it in? Paramount has a history of not putting in lossless audio, but Warner has. Plus, there have been longer movies released with lossless audio. On another note, I believe the audio on the Transformers HD DVD still got tagged as 'reference material' by many reviewers anyway so is it really that big an issue except to cause more warring between fanboys? wink.gif
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post Feb 19 2008, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Feb 18 2008, 11:56 AM)
Yes, the ahem DTS volume always cranked up.
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On a side note, iinm DTS itself is usually calibrated louder than Dolby Digital, which can mislead people into thinking its 'clearer' when it sometimes isn't all that big a difference.

 

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