lol but nope -

atleast there genuine positive news from HD DVD land. web feature, their already talk of the town interactive feature is now put on steroid with the release of Freedom Fighter, 300 and the upcoming Blood Diamond. BD is still finalizing their BD-J feature (what else can i say ) Their current players do not even support PiP and yet cost 2x more than HD DVD players.

and another good news, the Amazon n Microsoft's 1000 Indie HD DVD project for example. Where the two will offer 1000 independence titles to be released in HD DVD for free. The titles would then be sold through Amazon's video on demand, Customflix and the producers of the indie titles will get royalties from the sales of the titles.

the bad news on HD DVD land is mostly generated by BD's media hype (with not substance). YOu know when they get FOX and MGM to AGAIN announce exclusive support for BD but never bother to release titles .. Or get BlockBuster to announce that they will have BD titles in <>1700 rental stores in North America only to disclose that they are closing 300 stores in North America. And oh, for those who didnt know, Blockbuster USED to be big but now they are a dying dinosour eaten up by other rental such as NETflix whom support both format equally.

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Added on July 6, 2007, 10:41 amand oh - the official $100 the MSRP of Toshiba players ofcourse. Their players can be obtained at <>$230 in the USA

and to be fair, BD's five free BD title offer that mirrors HD DVD's soon to expire FIVE FREE HD DVD titles per player purchase is also a good news

This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 6 2007, 10:41 AM

i will be fair for them if the priced their players at the same price at HD DVD and offer the same advance intractivity as HD DVD . Till then, i will always back HD DVD, because consumer wise, its value for money

i am against people who shoved a 2x more expensive players that perform less and refuse to better themselves and only depend to press release to drive marketing. Toshiba player selling at <>$230. Cheapest blu-ray player selling at $500. the $230 has much more feature that consumers can enjoy. So why do we need the $500 player? Without it, consumers can get all the contents in HD DVD

sorry but in HD DVD vs BD - the Proton is priced at the BMW while the BMW is priced at proton's price. So how?

the problem with this senario is if you buy Perodua or Hyundai, you can still access all the roads and petro stations. In the BD case is - if you dont buy the more expensive and less feature BD, you would have access to all the Shell and Petronas stations, you can use only BP and Mobil. You also cannot use the KL-Seremban highway. Where as if you buy a Proton, you will have access to all of that. so is that considered 'force'?

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Added on July 8, 2007, 4:45 amsee this guy is enjoying hidef in the full

This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 8 2007, 04:45 AM

Good news people


barely a year and half after the launch of the first HD DVD player, the player price has hit the magical point of $199[COLOR=red].

This time the price is not an error. At least one retailer has hit the magic price of $199 and with free shipping and HDMI cable too. Bare in mind that with that price, buyers get 5 Free HD DVD movies too. With the 5 Free HD DVD valued at $150, the Toshiba HD A2 is now a no brainer purchase.

http://www.valueelectronics.com/htf.htm

As for the falsely and utterly content advantage of the competing format, these are the contents available in the USA as off July 24th. HD DVD 257 vs Blu-ray 267. If taking into consideration of other exclusive Blu-ray released on HD DVD in Europe that any HD DVD player owners can import as there is no region coding on HD DVD, there would be MUCH MORE titles available in HD DVD. The HD DVD promotional groupd also announced the availability of more than 1000 HD DVD titles worldwide by the end of the year

Here are July 24th Releases,

Blu-ray

* The Host (Magnolia)
* Out for Justice (Warner)
* Purple Rain (Warner)
* Weeds: Season Two (Lionsgate)

HD DVD

* The Bourne Identity (Universal)
* The Contract (First Look)
* Deep Purple: Live at Montreux 2006 (Rhino)
* The Host (Magnolia)
* In Good Company (Universal)
* The Nutty Professor 2: The Klumps (Universal)
* Out for Justice (Warner)
* Purple Rain (Warner)
* Santana: Hymns for Peace - Live at Montreux 2004 (Rhino)
* Scent of a Woman (Universal)
* Streets of Fire (Universal)
* Yes: Live at Montreux (Rhino)

nada - i am just spreading the love. I am tempted to order one from Value Electronic (the owner's name is Robert Zohn) will let you guys know what happen.

Btw- i might get myself few HD DVD titles first just to force myself to get the player.

and oh yeah - KL AV show is this weekend at Marriot .. the 'theme' hidef : expect to see lots of HD DVD and Blu-ray

Value electronics is the retailer that I noticed officially reduce the price to $199. The owner was also the one who hinted that other retailers will follow suit with the price reduction. I am trying to get him to ship to Malaysia. Right now, he only ships to USA. BH photo who ships to Malaysia is still selling the player at $234 with > $120 shipping to Malaysia

that is the problem 'reports'. kindly show us with with concrete evidence that HD DVD will be dead in 2years. MS do not invest in dead formats. Sony does You have not heard the HD DVD sales increase from Quarter 1 to Quarter 2 where as BD sales both hardware and software inclusive of PS3 drops 23% for the same period. Dying formats do not gain in sales. They opposite happens and that is exactly what is happening to Blu-ray but dun worry, Sony Pictures will continue to put Spiderman 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 on Blu-ray. You BD player owners would have plenty of contents to watch

if you read my post carefully you would know why instead of the must hyped studio support, there are still plenty of people buying into HD DVD, why, its cheaper and they believe in HD DVD's long term business model not Blu-ray's.

why. Everybody knows that Disney, Fox, MGM, Lionsgate and other so called exclusive content backers are obviously 'paid' to be do so. The problem with that is:

1. How long can Sony 'pay' them to do so?
2. They only announce their support, their do not produce titles to suppor the format. That is why we are seeing only 10 more BD titles than HD DVD in the US. To make things worst, BD Exclusive titles are released in HD DVD in other parts of the world. Sony's Underworld, for example can be imported as HD DVD is without Region Coding. Even Harry porter is released in HD DVD already in the Europe.

More woes to BD's business model:

- How long can Sony keep on subsidizing BD replication. Even with the subsidy, the single layer BD is more expensive than HD DVD double layer. BD people are even ashamed to let the world know the cost of the BD50 replication.

- How long can Sony pay each consumer $240 so that 1 of the 6 consumers who bought the PS3 buy one BD movie! How long can Sony deliberately sabotaging their gaming business by deprieving gamers with PS3 of games so that they are forced to buy BD movies?

- BD is working against those who wants to put their contents on BD - porn producers for example. Also there are currently only Sony who replicate BD50. Two more are expected to join the party by year end. This is not a problem on HD DVD DVD plants can easily be converted to produce and replicate HD DVD.

Therefore the chances of seeing a HD DVD production plant in Malaysia is much more higher than BD! No one in the right mind would built a plant to produce only BD when they can do DVD with HD DVD plants. So what is going to happen to titles that are sensored by Finas? will be replicated the censored one locally as may happen with HD DVD or are we sending it back for Sony to re-replicate them?

Now compare it with HD DVD's business:

Price the amazing consisten price reduction of the HD DVD players is threatening BD every second. At $199 with 5 free HD DVDs and free tax and free shipping n free HDMI cable, it makes the purchase of a HD DVD player a NO BRAINER. Lots of Blu-ray player owners will buy the HD DVD players because of that. in order for BD to triumph, the need to kill off HD DVD as soon as possible. EVery single additional HD DVD player count, creates problem to BD. Why, because BD cannot co exist with HD DVD because the alone will kill off BD. Imagine Warner and Paramount sell BD at $29.99 and HD DVD at $24.99 with the Cheapest BD player at $499 and HD DVD players at $199.

HD DVD promotional group together with MS are actively getting disk producers and replicators, independent content producers to set up their HD DVD line. Broadcom and MS has already presented their SoC HD DVD player design to manufacturers. There are people willing to bet that more HD DVD brands will be seen by year end. Toshiba was alone last year. This year, they had the backing of LG and Samsung. There are now three HD DVD capable brands. How can one say HD DVD is dying in 2 years time is beyond me.

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But then here we are again, taking about the additional storage and support for BD. WAKE UP PEOPLE !! 'smacking heads' . Check the BD and HD DVD disk sets, The Sopranos and Season 4 of Smallville for example. Despite almost 2x the storage of BD, the disks quantity is the same on both. Worst, titles such as 300, there are more feature on HD DVD then BD. So what do you think about that? More storage = more contents and more features - but the oposite is happening ! Expect to see more than 1,000 HD DVD titles worldwide by year end is what the HD DVD promotional groupd announced to the world. The BDA did not even dare to announce their expected figure yet keep on screaming exclusive support. Well the consumers has news for you, exclusive supports doesnt mean rat when they exclusive supporter doesnt release title!!

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Added on July 25, 2007, 6:13 am

the cheaper player is already there and its selling at $199 with 5 Free HD DVDs valued at $150 + free shipping and other freebies such as HDMI cable. I would say that BD is screwed. All the BD owners will now rush out to buy a HD DVD player.

and oh expect the the XBox 360 HD DVD add on to drop in price. Its is now $199 but with Toshiba's HD DVD player selling at the same price with the mentioned freebies, only retards will be the Add On !!

And another oh, the add on can be used on PCs two. The cheapest BD ROM in the market right now is the $399 Pioneer drive.

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Added on July 25, 2007, 6:23 am++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

and another oh BIG Oh

Blu-ray now has its own Picture in picture capable BD standalone player. Its by the remarkable Denon. Guess what, its official now that to enjoy picture in picture in BD, a consumer has to fork out $2000. consumers can view picture in picture on a $199 player

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9749310-1.html

Not to be outdone by all the other manufacturers making a mint overcharging for Blu-ray players (PS3 notwithstanding), Denon announced its own Blu-ray player today for the ice-cool price of $1999. The DVD-3800BDCI will be available this fall.

The at-least-$1000 premium over current Blu-ray players gets you BD-ROM Profile 1 Version 1.1, which will enable, according to the press release, "simultaneous playback of a secondary audio and video track which may be used for interactive audio and commentary and for picture-in-picture capability (respectively). Additional information (subtitles, audio streams, camera angles, trailers, games, etc.) can be downloaded from the Internet via computer and stored on a SD card that either player will accept." Translation? Unless you're really into special features, version 1.1 hardly makes current Blu-ray players seem obsolete.

We're still scratching our heads why Denon couldn't include an Ethernet connection, found on players like the Samsung BD-P1200, instead of making you rely on SD cards. Aside from version 1.1, the new "reference standard" player will include the step-up version of HQV's video processor, known as Realta. Current HQV-equipped units, like the aforementioned Samsung, get the step-down Reon processing, which to our eye works pretty dang well. Realta is said to improve the video quality of Blu-ray discs, and so it may inspire purchases Version 1.1 wouldn't. It's worth mentioning that simultaneous secondary AV track playback, along with an Ethernet port, are standard on all HD DVD players regardless of price.

In terms of audio, the DVD-3800BDCI will internally decode the new higher-quality surround Dolby True HD soundtracks (we're not sure yet if it can also decode DTS Master soundtracks, although the one we photographed was missing the DTS-HD Master logo) and can pass both Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio via bitstream to compatible receiver like one of Denon's new models, the Onkyo TX-SR605 or Sony STR-DA5300ES, for example. Unfortunately the new Denon Blu-ray player lacks DVD-Audio and SACD playback, which might make it a more-compelling purchase for audiophiles invested in those formats. Speaking of formats, Denon's spokesman was careful to mention that the release of the DVD-3800BDCI didn't necessarily mean the company was an exclusive supporter of Blu-ray, a statement that naturally leaves open the possibility Denon producing a combo HD DVD/Blu-ray player.


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to prevent BD propanganda machines from screaming ANOTHER CE GOES BD EXCLUSIVE, i highlighted the part where Denon said there are not a exclusive backer of BD

This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 25 2007, 06:32 AM

yupe: something all the extra 20GB of disk space in BD wont give consumers .

Home Theater Forum HD DVD panel discussion where BD fanboys came and nearly trashed the party. In Red HD DVD, in Blue: Blu-ray .. there were two or three BD supporters yapping yapping yapping about their PS3 console in a Home theater forum discussion panel i might add and questioned Universal's head for being exclusive to HD DVD. I mean OMG

HD DVD debate vids available at: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/ema2007/HD...0Video%204.html

below is a pictorial summary of the discussion:





This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 25 2007, 02:32 PM


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BD UP5000 will have advance video decoding (Realta's Reon as in XA2). But it will not do 24p for HD DVD. It only does that for BD .




A20 is not gen3. it is still gen2. Gen3 will use the SoC design by Broadcom/Microsoft. Onkyo has already announced their HD DVD player. Denon has only announced their BD player albeit at $2,000, not HD DVD player.

the problem with hidef it, i dont see them making it in Malaysia. We would have to import everything at the end of the day. Malaysians are still watching VCD for crying out loud. The only thing that is keeping the DVD hardware market alive to day is PIRACY !!

With gomen making tones of money from granting the license for foreigh movies. we end up with extremely expensive softwares. couple with the censoreship board which also charges titles for censorship. i mean OMFG !!

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Added on July 27, 2007, 3:29 amyupie - HD DVD add on its now officially $179 with King Kong and another 5 Free HD DVD titles

This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 27 2007, 03:29 AM

The specs are confirmed.

and yupie that is the sad story of malaysia's movie industry

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Added on July 30, 2007, 11:58 amTo further make Blu-ray's claim of exclusivity look more stupid than ever, FOX's box office, Fantastic 4 Rise of the Silver Surfer is announced in HD DVD (even before Blu-ray i might add ). The HD DVD will be released in Germany.

Director: Tim Story
Video: Widescreen (2.35:1)
Language: Deutsch, Englisch
Audio: DTS HD 5.1 German, DTS HD 5.1 English
Subtitles: German for the hearing impaired




This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 30 2007, 11:58 AM

the cool thing is Fox have not been releasing anything in Blu-ray then we see their box office movies adding to the total HD DVD movie listing. Priceless. Exclusivity anyone?

lol lol

another un-critical mind fooled by Sony spinsters internet news headline

from the article itself:



Sony bought an end cap at Target. Target is not promoting "Blu-ray". Sony bought an encap to promote ONLY Sony's BD $499 player.

also from the same article:



this is what SONY is trying to make readers believe which their spins. and it worked on OmniAtlas at least

omg - almost made it sounded like i care !!

people buy HD DVD of its value added feature, because of its consumer friendly price, stellar audio and video presentation.

people buy BD because its going to win the format war.



This post has been edited by g5sim: Aug 1 2007, 06:27 AM

audio/video quality is consistent. Better extra feature (interactive and non interative alike) despite smaller disk space. Blood diamond, 300 is two Extremely good titles where HD DVD totally blow BD off the water and guess what, the players is you get two HD DVD players with the price of the cheapest BD player (PS3 included and their PC drive (the add on) is selling at $149 at Best Buy in USA this comes with 6 Free HD DVD movies and a universal controller

[quickly go and check my bank book] nada from MS no need lah pay me. give me an

xbox elite for January,
Vista Ultimate for Feb,
Office 2007 small business edition for March,
Xbox Add on for April,
Zune for May,
Vista Home for June
Toshiba Ultimate Vista system with built in HD DVD for July
Halo 3 for August (i get it earlier than other people)

i am a happy man

i bet its 50in 8th gen Pioneer 1080p24 Plasma. The world's best Plasma TV