Guys, what's the experience of buying a used sport bike like in Malaysia?

Granted that when you buy the motor the engine can start and run smooth, is there no chance of you getting a lemon unit?

If I don't have a mechanic friend to inspect the bike with me, is it safe to get a used bike? Let's say 2-5 years of age Japanese made.

Do you guys know if any driving school would actually offer up to L license only?

I don't want to commit myself to a full license as I may be moving to another state soon (depending on if WFH policy changes), called a few schools and seem like they don't want to do it even though they technically can?

Guys, few questions on renewing dead insurance/roadtax on kapchai:

1. Do you need to get insurance renewed before inspection?
2. Just head straight to JPJ, not PUSPAKOM right?
3. I tried to get online quotation via MyEG and Loanstreet but both couldn't retrieve my vehicle. My only choice now is to head to nearby pos office?

Thanks, quite a lot of conflicting information out there.

Surprising to hear that you get insurance directly from JPJ for motorcycle, as I have always only dealt with insurance companies like Takaful for cars.

A fully stock interchanged unit of EX5 (2008) with only 300km on it. I have restored it fully recently and planning to use it for longer distance, so decided to restore the insurance and roadtax as well. The forks are leaking though, but I think that's not one of the things they inspect.

When you say getting insurance from JPJ, do you mean from the insurance agents outside JPJ or JPJ offers insurance themselves (which I don't think so?)

Yes, dead road tax expiry has been extended to 3 years back in 2020 but unfortunately my road tax s dead way longer than that.

I saw a few videos as well saying for motorcycle inspection it can be done at JPJ itself for free without going to PUSPAKOM, will probably make inquiries when I go there to get temporary driving permit.

Seeing as I just went through the process, thought I would share on how to renew motorcycle roadtax that is dead for more than 3 years. For motorcycle, the inspection can be done at JPJ instead of PUSPAKOM and it will save you RM20.

Documents needed (all of which can be prepared at/outside JPJ):
1. 2 copies of IC front/back
2. 2 copies of geran
3. Insurance policy
4. Borang Perjalanan Sementara (BPS)

Steps:
1. Download BPS on JPJ website, fill in whatever you could (you can also request for this at JPJ but you will have to queue).
2. Decide on your preferred insurance company, walk to the insurance agent booths outside JPJ and pick one that has that company listed on their booth (or go in and ask).
3. Ask for first party coverage, so you can claim in case of your motorcycle being stolen. (The agent was going to do third party for me until I stopped her and asked for more details, plus it was only RM20 more expensive in my case which was definitely worth it).
4. While doing the insurance renewal, request for the agents to photocopy 2 sets of your IC front/back and motorcycle geran, they should happily do it for you for free given that you've purchased insurance from them.
5. Fill in the newly purchased insurance details on BPS, head to the reception and show the receptionist all documents that you have prepared and you will be given a queue number.
6. When it's your turn, the officer will ask you when will you be available from next day onward, negotiate a convenient date and time slot that suits you and he/she will process it and you will be given a permit perjalanan sementara which is effective for 3 days. At this point, one set of your IC and geran will be taken away.
7. Attend the inspection at JPJ as per arranged with all the remaining documents and the involved motorcycle, do not come earlier if you are the first slot of the day as JPJ will not allow entry until then (you can come earlier if you are on 2nd slot or later).
8. Depending on the JPJ you went to, it could be a small workshop or as basic as a parking lot, JPJ Penang was a parking lot painted yellow with a small signboard attached on the pillar next to it.
9. The officer in charge will come with a toolbox and inspect your engine no/chassis no/plate no, after that you may be asked to start the motorcycle and show that all indicators are working (headlight, brake lights, signal lights, horn, engine runs smoothly)
10. Once inspection is done, the other set of IC/geran will be taken away and you will be given a form indicating successful inspection, head to reception to get a queue ticket for renewing road tax and voilà, your motorcycle is now road legal.

PS: You must be the owner of said vehicle.
PS: Don't risk riding to JPJ without Permit Perjalanan Sementara, you will be asked to show your pick-up truck and will be fined if you fail to comply.
PS: You can't ride there and have it processed the same day, as permit will only take effect next day onward.
PS: Have confirmed with JPJ officer that all JPJ with its own landed buildings are able to perform such inspection (which means JPJ at UTC are not able to), apply common sense.

This post has been edited by JustForFun: Mar 1 2022, 02:21 PM

JPJ Penang. I have also seen people done it in Ipoh and Kuala Lumpur and I heard the receptionist herself mentioning to another visitor that motorcycle inspection does not need PUSPAKOM, so I believe it's most likely applicable nationwide.

Maybe, but if ulu state like Perlis JPJ also can do then I have no reason to believe JPJ in KL can't do it... Plus the checklist for motorcycle is also relatively small, about five to six items if I'm not mistaken which I think is the reason why JPJ also can handle it.

Anyway, the legal way would have been to get the permit perjalanan sementara which means you must go to JPJ first regardless, then you can ask if they offer the service, unless of course you have a pick-up truck or is willing to spend to hire one.

So I've been doing research on protective gears and it seems that people very rarely recommend elbow/knee guards over riding jacket/pants, anyone can enlighten me on why is that? It seems like a more logical choice for me as you can buy a set and wear it everyday compared to riding pants where you'd have to have a couple at least to alternate?

Yea, I was referring those indeed:



Looking for a pair that is CE certified. I do understand that there are risks of them loosening and they do not cover other parts of your exposed legs if you are on shorts, what I value is the impact protection and when combined with a thick pair of jeans/chinos that should somehow mitigate the abrasion damage I assume.

I think as long as you can put up with the hassle of putting them on, the knee guards are much more cost-effective and maintenance free than riding pants. For jacket however I can see a reason for buying them as they block wind/rain/elements and you usually won't wear something as thick as denim for top when you are in our tropical weather, and a good leather jacket does look cool too, unlike riding pants...

Definitely, I would prefer to ATGATT too. My question was on why most in this thread seem to prefer riding pants over knee guard.

For the normal riding pants, it would smell if you wear the same pair to office 5 days a week, so you need to get a couple at least, and they are much more expensive than just a set of knee guards. This cost snowballs even further if we consider equipments degrading or tearing over time, probably you have to change an entire set again 5 years down the road when the seams and threads start giving way.

Over pants would probably be closer to knee guard but they are gonna be quite warm when you wear a pair long pants within. The impact protection also do not seem as good as a proper pair of knee guards, so the only advantages here are that they stay on your legs and protect against abrasion and have water resistance but are worse in every other way.

This post has been edited by JustForFun: Mar 5 2022, 12:18 PM

Meanwhile still waiting for Modenas to release the god damn Ninja 250... :zzz

I only lane split if I found myself in the wrong lane, otherwise I stick to the side and let the cars do their own things. I know full well that my kapcai lacks the power and brakes to get me out of tricky situations, and the way Malaysian drivers drive, you just won't know when somebody has a brain fart leading to an accident...

Bike is a tool to get me through traffic during peak hours, but not at the expense of my safety.

Guys, for the purpose of daily commute into KLCC from Kajang, and a weekly weekend ride back to hometown (Merlimau, Melaka but close to Johor), would Dominar 400 or Pulsar NS200 make more sense?

Having done some research myself, my thoughts on the bikes:

1. Dominar 400 - should be good for the weekly ride home, but given it's 182KG weight and size, would it be too much to handle in daily KL traffic? If it helps, I will be departing home at around 9AM everyday, and leaving work at 7.
2. Pulsar NS200 - This seems much more manouvreable in traffic, but still have just enough for me to cruise back to hometown at comfortable speed? (I don't ride fast, guess no more than 120kmph). Only front ABS though.

I was looking at ER6F initially, loved the looks, but too bad there's no ABS. Feel free to recommend alternatives up to 15K new or used.

Good call on the Z250, I did think of it, but wasn't sure if the pre-Modenas version had ABS. Quite surprised to find that for a 250cc, it has 37HP which is close to D400's 40HP, albeit at a much higher RPM, though that is to be expected with 2 cylinders.

Penang JPJ officers very kind one, last time I did 6.6 secs + on titi also they close one eye let me pass my B full

As long as not so ridiculous like jatuh motor all that there's room for negotiation one.

Probably a good thing to alleviate traffic problem, with more people encouraged to take up riding.

Huh? So in the end only abolish RM37 ringgit test fee?