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post Mar 30 2007, 11:28 AM

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any of you guys have experience with zoom 505 II? how does it fare? i'm thinking of adding it to my chain for versatility, not for main distortion though. just to play around. how does it fare working amongst other compact pedals and wah, being a digital effect processor? particularly interested in:

- how's the tuner? really chromatic?
- how's the bypass mode? will it effect overall sound?
- where should i put it? before or after compact pedal? (of course before the wah, right?)

edit: btw, +ve and -ve reviews are welcomed. i've read most of the available reviews on the net, most a re +ve, but there are some -ve too. just like to know what people here think.

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post Mar 30 2007, 12:24 PM

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i'm not gonna use it as a main effect, just for fine tuning a bit, mostly for clean. interested in the ZNR. definitely not gonna use the distortion and wah. well, maybe on headphones smile.gif. think of it as extra arsenal, besides i'm getting a used one.
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post Mar 30 2007, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Mar 30 2007, 11:28 AM)
any of you guys have experience with zoom 505 II? how does it fare? i'm thinking of adding it to my chain for versatility, not for main distortion though. just to play around. how does it fare working amongst other compact pedals and wah, being a digital effect processor? particularly interested in:

- how's the tuner? really chromatic?
- how's the bypass mode? will it effect overall sound?
- where should i put it? before or after compact pedal? (of course before the wah, right?)

edit: btw, +ve and -ve reviews are welcomed. i've read most of the available reviews on the net, most a re +ve, but there are some -ve too. just like to know what people here think.
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any other comments?

i think most of you misunderstood. this will not be my main effect and is not my 1st effect. i'm not a beginner. so this will be used as supplementary to my other pedals. but i'm concern about the integration part. will it integrate well? will it have any effect on the original tone? i'm gonna get it used, but i'd hate not being able to integrate it with my current setup, being digital and all. i don't mind the so-so effect part, you get what u paid for. just the ability to mix in.
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post Mar 31 2007, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(blackangel @ Mar 30 2007, 11:20 PM)
hmm what i want is like metallica those kind of distortion.i dun wan those like digitech death metal kind of sound. or those like megadeth one.
Everdying: hmm im not really sure thats why i ? there. cuz i saw sum article or something about saying its discontinued.but nvm if its not, then it will be no worries for me to sell it off. do u have a MT2? if u do, try to play something rock and roll  n see whether it cud perform.
any MT2 users?share u experience

well sweetooth ur fren is too extreme?lol of course u get what u pay right..n doubt that he can get perfect pedal as in good in every single thing
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MT2 user here. i'm a metallica fan myself. MT2 does that pretty well. and of course it can get mellower. i've tried it with deep purple, santana, satriani, bon jovi, GnR, it fits most of it with proper tweaking. the gain nob has a wide range and the mid freq can tweak the sound further. trust me, metalzone has a wide range for a compact pedal. try it with Jojet's 'i hate myself for loving u' & ' i love rock & roll', sounds great thumbup.gif. keep in mind though, it is called a metalzone, not an all-type-of-music-zone biggrin.gif. but if you're playing metallica, MT2 is a lot better for it than SD1. tends to get noisy at high gain & unsuitable for solo, i put the gain at about 2 o'clock most of the time which is just about right for me.
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post Mar 31 2007, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(blackangel @ Mar 31 2007, 12:11 AM)
thanks dude! hmm i will make up my mind b4 my sem finishes..
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don't think, the swap will be worthed. i never regret ever buying it and as a metallica fan, i'm sure you won't regret too. just make sure you have a good pickup to suppress the noise. bad pickup will make the noise too apparent and you're gonna need a noise gate.

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post Mar 31 2007, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(blackangel @ Mar 31 2007, 12:21 AM)
how about the ZNR from the zoom 505 II to suppress it?my picksup are lousy
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never tried it, but any noise gate will probably do. don't use too much gain and you'll be fine.
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post Mar 31 2007, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(AlienProbe @ Mar 31 2007, 01:32 AM)
DS-1 is not useless...its great for classic rock kinda stuff...but MT-2 is definately one of the most aggressive pedal out there...with correct setting...you can be Ac Dc or Rolling Stone too~ a wide range of sound selection cool2.gif
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he was referring to sd-1, the super overdrive. it's more mellow and warm, like tube i think. ds-1 is definitely not useless. i believe even satriani uses ds-1.
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post Mar 31 2007, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Mar 31 2007, 04:32 PM)
what other pedals do u have? ive seen this impressive post rock band which uses alot of pedals to get out of this world effects. he has everything u can think of(all those vintage and rare pedals), yet he has 2 zooms (a 505II and an older 505). he says he just specifically wanted that zoom sound (not all, just some effects) for certain things. he also uses a keyboard gig bag for his pedals, only his was so full that when he opened the gig bag, both sides(inside and on the 'cover') of the gig bag was full of pedals.

if thats what u want then go for it. as for me, guitar and amp tone is much more important than effects. with that much of effects, u're gona sacrifice tone.
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thanks for the comment echo.

i'm not gonna go crazy like that laugh.gif . but that's how i wanna use the zoom. been using MT2 and self-moded hellbabe wah for years. don't really wanna change much tone, just adding those tiny little stuff(reverb on pedal, flange, comp). i'm scared the zoom's gonna effect the original tone because it's digital. i've read somewhere that the zoom will gives too much bass even if the EQ is off. anyway, thanks for the info.
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post Apr 2 2007, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 1 2007, 08:13 PM)
This new BOSS pedal is awesome.... heavy as f**k!

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productde...851&ParentId=90

BOSS ML-2 Metal Core rclxm9.gif
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that would be good for 2 things:
1. people who wants heavy low-end sound.
2. people who wants to hide behind the distortion laugh.gif .

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post Apr 3 2007, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(winkybear @ Apr 3 2007, 12:30 AM)
My guitar went out of tune. Normally I dont put in the whammy bar...and just play without it. The other day I was trying out some Steve Vai whammy tricks (where he chops his whammy bar...spins it around) some dive bombs and the thing that Satriani does to make it sound exotic... Just wondering whether its normal for it to go out of tune, or there's something wrong with my bridge. It went out of tune a lot. Im using an edge pro bridge btw. Perhaps I'll try it out again another day...if I have an extra 15 mins to spare tuning it back >.< .
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how far out of tune is it? 1/2 a note? a little bit out of tune is quite normal. as long as it's not noticeable. maybe the string has not fully stretched yet. try giving the strings and springs a good stretch by playing with the tremolo some more, then tune again. that's what i usually did.
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(blackangel @ Apr 3 2007, 11:23 AM)
u put what u want as in the tone.reviews are just their opinions..anyway whats sterile?(non-pregnancy? XD) hmm...ifi have an epiphone like u...maybe i wont do much about the pickups...or make it like slash sig lp config! hehe..
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i tend to agree. why restrict your tone to what people suggested, reviewed and used? come on, playing music is a passion, not something to impress the ladies, you know? use what u like that's within your budget. that's the rule of thumb.
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post Apr 3 2007, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(winkybear @ Apr 3 2007, 06:20 PM)
To zeroglyph, it went out of tune quite badly. Chords dont sound like chords.
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that's quite bad for an Edge system. probably because u never used the spring. do a few dive bombs to stretch the springs.remember, the tension between the springs and strings must be balanced. most of the time, if you detune, that means the springs aren't pulling hard enough(new strings), if u go uptune, means the strings are loosing their tension (old strings). a floating tremolo must be used from time to time to maintain the tensions.
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post Apr 9 2007, 03:57 PM

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playing music is like marriage...at 1st there's the 1st time passion, then after sometime the passion was lost. it is at this time that u need to search deep within you, ask yourself "why did you want to play music (get married) in the 1st place?", then find other way to get that passion going again. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 23 2007, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Apr 22 2007, 07:31 PM)
Another solution, pratice playing standing up all the time.

usually after learning any song i will only practice the song playing standing
oo shi-
NO WONDER IM SHORT  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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that's what i usually did too. always practice my electric guitar standing up. always. good workout i'd say biggrin.gif. heck, i can play master of puppets/battery while standing, but will have trouble when sitting down (i can only downstroke faster when standing). sweat.gif

QUOTE(AlienProbe)
just watch how low james hetfield's guitar is while he's standing and you will know everything is possible~


but hetfield is a tall guy. he has long arms. that's why he can play that low. i agree that it's better that we play at our comfortable height than following people's height. i tend to play quite low too, like hetfield(easier to downstroke). but i realized that it made me look stupid because i'm not as tall as he is. so now i play a little higher, like hammet's height. need time to get use to it, but it actually allow easier access to higher fret.

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post Apr 23 2007, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Apr 23 2007, 01:36 PM)
i don't think anyone answered this, but is there a different approach to palm muting and strumming when playing standing up? when the guitar is angled a bit(kinda like classical position)
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well, practice picking in an angled position. you can see how slash do it. just a little practice. that's all.

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post Apr 30 2007, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Apr 30 2007, 02:50 PM)
Hi guys, need some help here. I just bought a cheap epiphone les paul special. I was wondering this model can change the humbuckers? Also can pick up board be added to it?

Finally, I notice that the strings on high keys are way too far from the bridge. I tried adjusting it but the bass vibrates as it is to close to the bridge on the low keys (I don't know how to explain this but I hope you know what I mean). Anyway to overcome this?

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if it has a humbucker, then it can be change. if not, then u need to make the cavity for the humbucker. if it does not fit, u need to widen the cavity. as for pick up board(i assume u mean pick guard), they should be one that'll fit, but u have to drill holes on the body.

adjusting any screws on the bridge may effect intonation, so better do that with new strings as it is easier to adjust intonation with new strings. there are screws for string height(action) and string lenght(intonation). which of these are you refering to? if it buzzes, then adjust the string higher, but remember to compensate the intonation back. either that, or use lighter picking and fretting.

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QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Apr 30 2007, 04:01 PM)
Thanks for your reply. Actually I mean the height of the strings from the frets, the high keys are way to high IMO. Seems too hard to press them when they are so far away from the neck. What I meant is that I adjust it to make it lower but the bass strings buzzes. I had to adjust until it is higher then the bass doesnt buzz. Just wondering if there is way to overcome this. It's either too high or too low until the string buzzes. When I do get the sweet spot, I still feel its too far, compare to my squire.  hmm.gif

Oh, so must drill holes on the body to install the pick guard? So where can I buy this pick guard with installation? Don't think I dare to drill it myself really.

So means mine can change humbucker? Those P90 and seymour duncans can fit right? Sorry for the noob questions, cause I never changed them before. Still learning. notworthy.gif
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is the guitar new or used?

so let me get it straight:
- string action on the e,b,g string is too high
- u adjust the saddle height but the E,A,D starts to buzz

try only lowering the treble side, and keep the bass side where it does not buzz. les paul stop bridge shouldn't be hard to adjust unless there are other problems. check the neck relieve, for lower action, the neck needs less relieve(aka almost straight). check for fret wear too.

where does the buzzing occurs? which fret?

the pick guard, you'll need to do a lot of browsing to find the that'll fit. i guess an LP pick guard will fit nicely.

too many tones and volume makes me confuse rclxub.gif . i prefer simple guitars biggrin.gif .
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 30 2007, 07:45 PM)
Ummmmm.... is there a difference at all?

I mean, it's the same as dual pickups.... just... don't use the other one.
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i think he meant single coils.

well single coils tend to sound brighter(i believe this is the correct term instead of sharper). good for rhythm strumming and melodic tunes, but gonna have a hard time for heavy downstroke riffs. not impossible, just a tad harder. also, single coils tend to blend more with the band than humbuckers(think orchestra). so it's hard to cut through the rhythm with it.
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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Apr 30 2007, 08:01 PM)
i meant humbuckers

so having a single bridge humbucker, will heavy downstroke riffs still sound heavy? i've never tried one before. what models have this pickup setup?
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well my bad for misunderstanding.

QUOTE(soulfly)
i believe it makes no difference actually. the reason some guitars/guitarists have only one pickup... that's in the bridge... is because they have no need for the neck pickup.
i believe the same as he does.
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post May 1 2007, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ May 1 2007, 03:42 PM)
First of all, you have to take it to a luthier to get it re-stringed to a higher gauge.... because you will have to adjust the bridge and the saddle as well.

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not to mention the accursed neck relieve biggrin.gif.

yes, agree with everdying, EP LP special 2 is not worthed, better get SX. EP LP Custom is a different story.

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