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 Refinancing your property for cash, and credit consolidation

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aoisky
post Apr 24 2017, 12:03 AM

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Hi TS,

Is that possible to refinance my dad's property under my name which the property doesn't not have my name in it ?
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post Apr 24 2017, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Apr 24 2017, 12:03 AM)
Hi TS,

Is that possible to refinance my dad's property under my name which the property doesn't not have my name in it ?
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Yes it is possible. If your dad doesn't want to transfer you by way of MOT (transfer the title completely to you), then we have to do it through 3rd party loan application.

Your dad will be a joint-applicant with you, but income is derived only from yourself. There WILL NOT be any changes to the actual owner of the property, the only documents that need to be signed are the Letter Offer from the bank and Loan Agreement, which is an agreement between you+father and the bank. This is doable. Please let me know if you need help with this arrangement.

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post Apr 24 2017, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Apr 24 2017, 01:51 AM)
Yes it is possible. If your dad doesn't want to transfer you by way of MOT (transfer the title completely to you), then we have to do it through 3rd party loan application.

Your dad will be a joint-applicant with you, but income is derived only from yourself. There WILL NOT be any changes to the actual owner of the property, the only documents that need to be signed are the Letter Offer from the bank and Loan Agreement, which is an agreement between you+father and the bank. This is doable. Please let me know if you need help with this arrangement.
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thanks for the reply, is there any different or disadvantage of joint-applicant with parent than having name under the property ? as the property already over 10 years old and yet to receive individual title, something which i think the developer delaying.
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post Apr 24 2017, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Progineer @ Apr 24 2017, 08:28 AM)
4.2% interest of a 100k loan, as you can see equals to 91k rm in interest over 30 years.. that is to say, you are losing 91k rm by taking a loan today.

Maybe insignificant or a stupid decision you regret down the line, depending if you invest in high margin stocks that give at least 8% annual return, just to cover the 4.2% interest and inflation..

Refinancing your home at 4.2% is a losing sum game and simply does not make sense.. you are neither pulling ahead and have a high chance of regression in your savings especially if you spend the money on non investment items like a vacation or new car, which many stupid people do with this kind of loan.

Now, if the repayments were flexible, then maybe you can benefit from this type or loan and lower the money you pay in interest. Either that, or the loan SHOULD technically be alot lower.. maybe even 1% loan since the fully paid off house is being used as collateral.. i dont see why the banks would charge a high interest rate.. this kind of loan is very secure for banks.
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Bit if you're confidences to get or to earn more than the loan rate. I don't see refinancing is a bad move.

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post Apr 24 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Progineer @ Apr 24 2017, 08:28 AM)
4.2% interest of a 100k loan, as you can see equals to 91k rm in interest over 30 years.. that is to say, you are losing 91k rm by taking a loan today.

Maybe insignificant or a stupid decision you regret down the line, depending if you invest in high margin stocks that give at least 8% annual return, just to cover the 4.2% interest and inflation..

Refinancing your home at 4.2% is a losing sum game and simply does not make sense.. you are neither pulling ahead and have a high chance of regression in your savings especially if you spend the money on non investment items like a vacation or new car, which many stupid people do with this kind of loan.

Now, if the repayments were flexible, then maybe you can benefit from this type or loan and lower the money you pay in interest. Either that, or the loan SHOULD technically be alot lower.. maybe even 1% loan since the fully paid off house is being used as collateral.. i dont see why the banks would charge a high interest rate.. this kind of loan is very secure for banks.
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Ha ha...1% loan from the bank? Do you know how banks work of not? Ignorant.
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post Apr 24 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Progineer @ Apr 24 2017, 02:06 PM)
your head.. the market ultimately determines how successful a product is.. this refinancing product is considered a safe bet due to having the fully paid off house as collateral. There is virtually zero risk involved lending out to such a person, hence the interest rate should reflect this.

you may whinge and bitch about this as much as you like, but 1% refinancing loan are very common in USA and america.
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Err.... How sure are you if refinance loan at 1%?

And I look around me, I doesn't feel like I'm in USA?

Btw.

USA = America.


Are you in the wrong section? This isn't k/
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post Apr 24 2017, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(Progineer @ Apr 24 2017, 02:06 PM)
your head.. the market ultimately determines how successful a product is.. this refinancing product is considered a safe bet due to having the fully paid off house as collateral. There is virtually zero risk involved lending out to such a person, hence the interest rate should reflect this.

you may whinge and bitch about this as much as you like, but 1% refinancing loan are very common in USA and america.
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Ha ha. So because it is very safe, then banks must loan to you at 1% interest only? So, if I pledge a RM1mil FD to you (which means it is 100% safe to you), will you lend me RM1mil at 1% per annum? Can ah? Bodoh! bangwall.gif
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post Apr 24 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Progineer @ Apr 24 2017, 07:02 PM)
Wah lao.. you lagi sohai. 

Fd is tied with inflation rate and the blr. Msia blr now 6.xx% and inflation above 4%.. of course la msia fd rate is high!

U look at the stable currency like sgd and aud.. fd rate below 0.5%. Interest rate below 4%. Inflation less than 1%..

So ya, ofcouse bang your head on wall. You dont know the macroeconomics at all. You know who else has 4% fd rates? Zimbabwe.  Says alot of where the rm is heading.
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Do not twist and turn talking about inflation, BLR, macroeconomics and Zimbabwe. biggrin.gif


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post Apr 24 2017, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Apr 24 2017, 08:05 AM)
thanks for the reply, is there any different or disadvantage of joint-applicant with parent than having name under the property ? as the property already over 10 years old and yet to receive individual title, something which i think the developer delaying.
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there are a few banks that allow the financing of properties over 10 years, but without title. If you were PURCHASING the property, I would tell you to walk away as per the article in my signature. But since you already have the property and would like to unleash its value, we can look into refinancing it with the right banks for this situation.

1. The disadvantage in your setup would be that you PARENT (the owner/chargor) of the property would have the finance facility in his CCRIS. But look at it in the bright side, assuming that your PARENT is NOT applying for any loans soon.. then YOU would have this finance facility as JOINT LOAN. Going forward, in the future when you are applying for a loan you would have the commitment for this particular facility HALVED. Good for you then.

2. yes, developers DO delay the sub-division at times due to multiple reasons. not much you can do about that other than making noise

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post Apr 25 2017, 04:31 PM

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Hi TS,

Can we refinance/repawn a fully paid-off property but the property is lease hold that remain less than 30 years.
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post Apr 25 2017, 04:57 PM

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A client of mine who is a Finance Director with a company refinance his home to purchase another property in Australia, as the interest rate here is lower
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QUOTE(knwong @ Apr 25 2017, 04:57 PM)
A client of mine who is a Finance Director with a company refinance his home to purchase another property in Australia, as the interest rate here is lower
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That's smart. As per one of my earliest points​, you refinance your property to unlock its value - cash. With this cash you can reinvest in an investment vehicle that gives higer returns than the interest rates for the mortgage.
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post Apr 27 2017, 08:05 AM

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Let say i own a house fully paid with my parents..can i refinance it and what is the procedure?


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post Apr 28 2017, 07:53 AM

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Let say i got 2 houses still under finance and wanna refinance my own fully paid house (3rd house), will it fall under 3rd financing rule? Meaning only can get 70% max.
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QUOTE(gogocan @ Apr 28 2017, 07:53 AM)
Let say i got 2 houses still under finance and wanna refinance my own fully paid house (3rd house), will it fall under 3rd financing rule? Meaning only can get 70% max.
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Yes, for every financing application, the bank will look at your current CCRIS. when they see at least 2 residential housing loans on your CCRIS, the next application will be default to 70%
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post Apr 29 2017, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(MISMan @ Apr 21 2017, 09:33 AM)
B. yes, old rate signed 10x years ago. is this roughly correct that:
: 7% @ rm 110k = rm 7700/yr
: 4.5% @ rm 110k = rm 4950/yr
Difference : RM 2750/yr x 10 remaining yrs of loan = RM 27.5K cumulative interest.
est refinancing costs = RM 4500, so total saving is ard RM 23K

c. Its a strata title.
D. Does refinancing take into considerations that my current loans/commitment status? It obviously has changed since the past 10+ years.

Ys, pm me ur contact. I would like to find out more on debt consolidation.

Thanks!
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D. Refinancing will take into your account for your current commitment although it's on loan consolidation.

AIA fixed rate loan will not consider your existing loan as part of commitment in loan consolidation with 35 years cash out calculation compared to normal banks @ 10 years calculation for the cash out

Therefore you are able to loan out a higher portion as well as consolidating your debt into 1 loan

QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 23 2017, 05:47 PM)
Ts,

Possible to get sgd loan by refinancing props in Malaysia???? Ha ha.. lower int rate
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Not possible la ... haha

QUOTE(aoisky @ Apr 24 2017, 12:03 AM)
Hi TS,

Is that possible to refinance my dad's property under my name which the property doesn't not have my name in it ?
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Yes you can, we can do it under the love and affection transfer which means your father SPA can be changed to you and the loan can be refinanced and put under your name instead.

QUOTE(NothingMuch @ Apr 25 2017, 04:31 PM)
Hi TS,

Can we refinance/repawn a fully paid-off property but the property is lease hold that remain less than 30 years.
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Yes you can but you will need to renew the lease prior to the refinancing as your current 1 is less than 30 years already

QUOTE(gogocan @ Apr 27 2017, 08:05 AM)
Let say i own a house fully paid with my parents..can i refinance it and what is the procedure?
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Yes you can refinance, firstly you need to establish, do you intend to transfer the SPA from your parents to your name, if yes, then you can save some fee by using the love and affection transfer.

Procedure is similar to applying for a new loan.

You'll need to submit the ful, document such as
IC
3 months payslip and bank statement
EPF Statement
EA Form
SNP and Title of the property

QUOTE(gogocan @ Apr 28 2017, 07:53 AM)
Let say i got 2 houses still under finance and wanna refinance my own fully paid house (3rd house), will it fall under 3rd financing rule? Meaning only can get 70% max.
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Yes, this will fall under the 3rd financing rule meaning your cash out amount or refinancing amount is restricted to 70% of the current market value.

E.g valued @ 1 mil, you can only refinance 700k.
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post Apr 29 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2017, 11:31 AM)
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Yes you can, we can do it under the love and affection transfer which means your father SPA can be changed to you and the loan can be refinanced and put under your name instead.
please elaborate more the bold statement please, property is fully own by parents no loan with bank & still pending individual title.

what is the different in term of fee if spa still under my parents name and or join name or my name ?

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Apr 29 2017, 12:44 PM)
please elaborate more the bold statement please, property is fully own by parents no loan with bank & still pending individual title.
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Meaning when you apply for love and affection transfer, meaning transfer of property from parents to children, you save on the stamp duty and pay a smaller fee for the SNP portion

If your parents decided to hand over you the property, you can refinance the property under your name. And the money goes to your parents.

If using transfer through love and affection below are the scenario

In contrast, pursuant to the Stamp Duty (Exemption) (No. 10) Order 2007, the law provides for stamp duty exemption for a transfer of property between family members by way of love and affection as follows:

Transferor Transferee Exemption Rate
Husband Wife 100%
Wife Husband 100%
Mother and/or father Child 50%
Child Mother and/or father 50%


Note that ‘Child’ means a legitimate child, a step child or child adopted in accordance with any law. Also, stamp duty is typically paid by the transferee, unless agreed otherwise by parties.
http://www.mahwengkwai.com/transfers-famil...s-tax-exposure/

Whereas if you want to cut and transfer your name via the usual snp procedure then it will be the full snp fee.

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post Apr 29 2017, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2017, 12:49 PM)
Meaning when you apply for love and affection transfer, meaning transfer of property from parents to children, you save on the stamp duty and pay a smaller fee for the SNP portion

If your parents decided to hand over you the property, you can refinance the property under your name. And the money goes to your parents.

If using transfer through love and affection below are the scenario

In contrast, pursuant to the Stamp Duty (Exemption) (No. 10) Order 2007, the law provides for stamp duty exemption for a transfer of property between family members by way of love and affection as follows:

Transferor Transferee Exemption Rate
Husband Wife 100%
Wife Husband 100%
Mother and/or father Child 50%
Child Mother and/or father 50%


Note that ‘Child’ means a legitimate child, a step child or child adopted in accordance with any law. Also, stamp duty is typically paid by the transferee, unless agreed otherwise by parties.
http://www.mahwengkwai.com/transfers-famil...s-tax-exposure/

Whereas if you want to cut and transfer your name via the usual snp procedure then it will be the full snp fee.
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thanks for the info, if the property remain unchanged under my parents' name, still can apply for refinance right ?

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