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teen08
post Nov 29 2017, 03:23 PM

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guys i just upgraded from 50 to 100mbps. the gave me the ac1200. but on wifi I'm getting shitty speeds downstairs. really shitty.macbook i get good speeds. but ip7 is like2-30mbps. not stable. router is upstairs. hows the wifi coverage for anyone who is using c1200 for a double storey house?

my last router was asus nt12hp. it was awesome.i tried using that again but for some reason I'm getting slightly lower speeds. not sure if its the router or just the connection in general.
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post Nov 30 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Nov 29 2017, 05:48 PM)
Did you try using the 5GHz band? Don't bother using the Asus N12HP, as it does not support AC, and therefore could give you lower speeds. If you are using the 2.4GHz band, that could be the problem as 2.4GHz is very congested nowadays.
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Thanks for the reply. I’m not sure I’m using 2.4 or 5. Chose the same names. But it should auto connect which ever is better right? Or should I off 2.4? But if I’m not mistaken 2.4 is range right? Coz I think I need it as router is on top floor at the back. And tv/Ps4 is downstairs at the front. I was using 2.4 on the Asus. Slight drop on speeds. When I was on 50mbps.

Sorry but what’s AC? Guess router that I bought is redundant now. 😭 maybe can use as repeater. Hmmm.
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post Dec 16 2017, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(warrior @ Nov 30 2017, 11:52 AM)
5GHz band has better speed and less frequency interference but drawback is shorter range and bad wall penetration.
2.4GHz band has longer range and better wall penetration but drawback is slower speed and greater frequency interference.

It's good that you put different SSID name e.g. myWifi2G & myWifi5G so you could connect to 2.4 for devices far away from router.
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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Nov 30 2017, 01:06 PM)
See bro warrior reply above. It is the same thing as what I would say to you. See here for further explanation on AC and other various wireless basics:

http://homenetworkadmin.com/wireless-b-vs-...-ac-difference/
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I did what u said. You’re right. But the signal is damn unstable. Will bt Asus nT12hp give me lower speed? Coz this router kinda suck la. Even though with 3 antennas.

QUOTE(dman @ Nov 30 2017, 10:50 PM)
Just installed unifi30 with the c1200, noticed it quite unstable and suka suka fast suka suka slow or no signal... Alwiz unstable connection and felt it slower than my previous maxis 10mbps router. Aduhai
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Same her bro. Damn unstable.
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post Dec 16 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 16 2017, 08:48 AM)
It won’t give you lower speed, just that you can’t use AC. Just try using the ASUS N12HP again, and if you can get full speed at 2.4GHz, just change router.
Try ticking the ‘802.1Q’ box. This particular router does support the TP Link Tether app, but only for V1. Yours should be able to support the Tether app. See here: http://www.tp-link.com.my/tether_compatibility_list/
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Is there any known problems with this router? Should I call them and maybe try to change a different router? Coz the old router I had from tm ,the orange and white one, changed it to Asus coz it was kicking users and it was unstable. Can only have certain amount of users. And this one the signal is quite bad downstairs. (Router upstairs)

AC is 2.4 and 5ghz right? So that’s the only difference right? From your experience can 5ghz reach from upstairs at the back to in front downstairs? Coz 5ghz gives good speed but when I’m upstairs it’s good. Maybe I can look for a new router that has better signal that is not too pricy.

Thanks for your feed back.
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post Dec 16 2017, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 16 2017, 12:24 PM)
TP Link AC1200 has had a lot of complaints from forumers here, so if you can get a better router, it would be good to change to a more expensive TP Link router or an Asus one. I wouldn’t bother calling TM as they won’t change your router to a better one, unless you buy your own router.

AC is only 5GHz. 5GHz have faster speed and less interference but its signal strength and coverage is not that good as 2.4GHz, so no, it can’t reach from upstairs at the back to in front downstairs. Changing routers won’t help as 5GHz has very low coverage generally. See here for a more detailed explanation:

https://www.lifewire.com/is-5-ghz-wifi-bett...-2-4-ghz-818293
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Which one would u recommend for me? Not too expensive though. 😅 if I change to the old Asus n12hp. The only difference is I won’t have 5ghz right? Other than that it’s all the same?

Just read on Asuss’ website n12hp is small home coverage. Lol.
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post Dec 17 2017, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 16 2017, 08:06 PM)
If you want another ASUS router, I would recommend the ASUS RT-AC1300UHP.

See the review here:

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/asus-rt-ac1300uhp/

It is a bit pricey through, from RM500 - RM600.

If you want something cheaper, try the Asus-ART1200G+.

You can still have 5GHz for N, but not AC. See here:

http://homenetworkadmin.com/wireless-b-vs-...-ac-difference/
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Thanks for the suggestions!! But if I don’t mind with the using just 2.4ghz band. My nT12hp is good enough for 100mbps Unifi right?

I saw on blackutibi the tp link router they provide is quite price. Then why the performance suck. The connection is intermittent with WiFi. Should I just flash their router? I don’t use hype tv anyways. Will it help?

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post Dec 18 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 17 2017, 09:29 AM)
I don’t know if it will be good enough for 100Mbps as it depends on interference and congestion in your area. It might not though, so keep that in mind. The router they provide is not that pricey, to be honest, and it is one of their mid range models. There are more expensive routers out there. You can flash the router however you want, but you are on your own regarding that.
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But then again i dont have much choice since I use it more downstairs and 5ghz cant reach downstairs. In your opinion the ac1200 is better or the dlink provided by TM?

QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 17 2017, 12:35 PM)
My friend, I believe you router might not support speed above 100Mbps since it comes with FAST ethernet port. If you're using 100Mbps connection, if you use the router, the max speed you might get is around 80 - 94 Mbps and not 101 - 104 Mbps.
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does it say wnywhere on the specs? so that i understand more on how to look out for this in the future? i always thought that 300mbps speed stated is the max speed. Thanks for your reply.
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post Dec 18 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 10 2017, 12:52 PM)
I am an ex user of archer c7v2 (sold it already due to weak wireless signal for both bands) and c1200 (ditched it because whenever I download using idm, it delays 1 minute before download any files including images) and replaced with second hand asus rt-n56u router. That solves the problem. No need to wait for a minute to download. Even aus firmware cannot save c1200.

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Pros of C7

- no reboot issues
- not getting too hot
- able to handle 20 devices at a time

Cons of C7
- lame ui
- weak wireless signal especially 5ghz band
- buggy firmware

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Pros of C1200
- good wireless signal (even better than c7 to be precise)

Cons of C1200- firmware issues (too many bugs)
- random reboot (although aus firmware does improve the boot up time)
- overheat issue

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But, in future,  I might avoid lower end tplink models.

Now i am a happy user of asus n56u.  biggrin.gif

The best part is, asus n56u still receives firmware upgrade although it has been 6 years the router was launched into the market.
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did u try and flash c1200? hows your wifi range for n56u? N56u supports 100mbps?

QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 18 2017, 06:41 PM)
My friend, hereby i attach an image for your own satisfaction.

For further clarification, you can go here to check.
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is that how u see it? ok thanks. will look for higher end and see what are the figures like. thanks!

QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 18 2017, 06:45 PM)
I would say both are not that good. But, if I have to choose, I would choose the DLink as the AC1200 has had many complaints about stability.
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ok. thanks! i wonder if i call them after a few months and see if they would change to a later version of c1200..hmmm

QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 18 2017, 06:54 PM)
I agree. Trust me, if you're a heavy user, e.g. torrenting, your cpu load usually shoots up to 100%. I wonder do tplink did a proper testing before releasing the firmware. I believe the hardware used in c1200 is good. But how come such crappy firmware passed the testing?
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if you're talking about router CPU load, mine is 8% memory usage is 42%. and why are they not updating the firmware bruce.gif

QUOTE(yakumo @ Dec 18 2017, 07:00 PM)
Another thing I found out about the TM tplink c1200, DNS server is locked to TM DNS server.( Even if you have changed to Google DNS or others.)
Haven flash it yet tho..

Using back my old dlink orange router.
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i dont think so bro. im using google dns.iat least i think i am. checked on cmd and also websites that forbidden brows.gif

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post Dec 19 2017, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 19 2017, 12:12 AM)
However, there is downside of the fixed issues.  rclxms.gif
n56u has gigabit lan and a wan port. Definitely it supports 100Mbps bro.

I flashed my c1200 with aus firmware. Tbh, it just able to solve the boot up time issue. it takes 4 minutes rather than 5 minutes. The good side is, the wireless signal were superb.
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hows the range? its quite cheap for a second hand. Maybe can sell my n12hp and get that one since im on 100mbps now
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post Dec 19 2017, 05:01 PM

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just updated to the eu firmware. lets see. fingers crossed. by the way the cpu load jumped from 8 to 80%!! wtf
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post Dec 21 2017, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 19 2017, 05:07 PM)
tbh, I flashed my c1200 to aus firmware to avoid the "suffix @unifi" thing. The boot time does improve by 2% ONLY. Yesterday when I was having free time, i updated the firmware of the router to the latest version of aus firmware (before this using an older version of the firmware of aus). I must say, after upgrade, the situation even gets worse. Hahaha. It takes long time to connect to the internet. i guess around 6 minutes. The cpu load shoots to 100% and when I download torrent or using IDM, they are not responding to the server (takes around 1 to 2 minute) before they actually starts to download.
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thats what im getting. for me its just the cpu load. maybe ill try to change my router at tm then. flash back to tm shitty firmware. lol. hows your wireless coverage on the n55?
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post Dec 22 2017, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 21 2017, 05:56 PM)
Wireless coverage for n56u average only. So i sell it already. Currently looking for a replacement router. But running the router in padavan is the best.
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i dont know what padavan is but ok. hehe. was about to go flash back to tm firmware and try my luck with c7 but u said the 06/17 firmware is better than c7. so will try that for a while. have u tested c7 as well??

By the way i cant flash back the firmware to tmnet firmware? anyone know why?

should i enable tx beamforming?

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post Dec 22 2017, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 22 2017, 06:33 PM)
I am an ex- archer c7v2 user. I sold the router due to the wifi is quite weak. It has an awesome spec, but average coded firmware causes the wireless to be weak. First of all, what router you are using currently? C7 or C1200? Second, why you want to flash to tm's firmware? If I were you, i wont do such move. You can enable the beam forming or disable it. You can refer here.
If you're using archer c1200, i will say, if c1200 has a stable firmware, sorry dear c7v2 users, this c1200 will be a beast. Since the firmware for c1200 is buggy, hence it limits the router's performance. The router comes with an awesome specs. Yes. Even Im using Archer C1200(EU)_V1_170616 firmware. I disable some of the features to make the router to be stable for time being.
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m using c1200. flash to to tm firmware so i can try go n change with c7 like one of the guy here did in kuching. try mu luck. will read the site. thanks. im using the same firmware now. flashed it and resore setting from backup. what did u disable? i disabled printer and tried using ipv6 not workins os i left it at bridge. doesnt effect anything if im not mistaken. usb can turn off.
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post Dec 25 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 22 2017, 11:32 PM)
I disable the usb sharing, print server. Thats all. Some say by disabling SPI Firewall, the cpu load will be less. I personally test it and find that, it is same as I jump into a sea full of sharks. The performance of the router when spi disabled were slightly better. I turn off the led's so that the router don't overheat (although i put a cooling fan).

The only thing I like in c1200 is, the wireless performance and we can turn off the led's. For such router for the price, i can say okay. If and only if c1200 have a stable firmware.
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will do that. i dont have a cooling fan. do u mean that small fan powered via usb? turning off the led lights is the option in system parameters right??? enable night mode?? how to set its off permanently?
hopefully they come out with a more stable firmware soon!
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post Dec 25 2017, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 25 2017, 09:00 PM)
I see. I invest rm80 to buy cooler for my router. I turn off the led so that it looks nice moreover, the led's are not blinking. Hahaha.
Is the newer version of c1200 is better than the c1200v1?
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May I know which cooler u bought? N I can’t seem to find the setting to off the led. Can u show me. Hehe
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post Dec 30 2017, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 25 2017, 08:49 PM)
Don't hold your breath. There is newer versions of the C1200 out already, and the problematic version is v1, so doesn't look like they will bother with v1.
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which are you using? hows the wifi coverage??

QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 26 2017, 08:07 PM)
I bought this.


You can turn off your router led by looking at your web admin interface of your router. As marked in the picture below. If you using Malaysian firmware (blue), you can click at the led icon to turn the led's off.

thanks for the tip. the wifi still sucks big time.. auto disconnects the devices. take out more money now sad.gif i need wifi. any router you would recommend? looking at asus i guess since i used one before and it was stable.

How about this two. similiar price range:

https://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC55UHP/

https://www.asus.com/my/Networking/RT-AC58U/

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post Jan 1 2018, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Dec 30 2017, 06:10 PM)
Not using the C1200. I just know there are newer versions out there, for sale anyway. You won't get the newer version from TM, that's for sure.

I would recommend you get the Asus RT-AC1300UHP, instead. See here for review: https://www.blacktubi.com/review/asus-rt-ac1300uhp/
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which one are u using? thats a good suggestion i was looking at the ac55uhp. will compare.

QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Dec 30 2017, 09:18 PM)
If me, i wont mind about wireless. I will select a wired router because I very seldom use wireless. Only to open whatsapp or insta in iphone. My rog laptop always sleep and i open once in a week to update the software then close back. I rely fully on wired connection. Thanks to bro soonwai for suggesting me to get a Mikrotik router. So i purchase it and I satisfied with the performance. For the price of rm260, this can be compared with high end asus router. The good side of the router is, its small and cute and fit even at the compact place (not taking much space). To make my parents house to have wireless connection, i put TP=LINK TL-WR841N as an access point. It solves my problem.

As for the suggestion, i would recommend you to go for asus router (dual band). If you have the budget around 700 to 800, then you can purchase tplink c3150 (MU-MIMO) router.
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budet is around 400-500. fell thats a lot already since i have to fork out more coz unifi provides a sucky router puke.gif thanks for your suggestion. but looking to stay with asus. sweat.gif
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post Jan 1 2018, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Jan 1 2018, 07:11 PM)
Of you can purchase the mikrotik router for rm260 then use your stock unifi router as an access point to provide wireless signal for your devices. I did like that for my parents home network. I let mikrotik to be my main router, then i use cheap tplink router to be an access point.  biggrin.gif

Happy New Year to all of the forumers here.
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ohh ok but was the signal stable after that? then again more cables and elec. hehe
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post Jan 2 2018, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Jan 2 2018, 01:19 AM)
Bro, if you want to depend on the stock router supplied by tm, then you will face some issues with your good time with internet. Nowadays, all router comes with wireless functionality. In the first place, i never thought of buying mikrotik router because i plan to buy an asus dual band router or a tplink c3150 (saving money), but after read some reviews on mikrotik product, and their routerOS, i must say, it is the BEST router i ever used so far. Just imagine, you get 256mb of ram instead of standard 128mb for the price of rm260. I bought this router as my main router because i using more wired connection than wireless. the only devices that uses wireless is 3 laptop (rarely used) and 4 smartphone (always use). So i get a cheap tplink router to broadcast the wireless signal. I've been using the mikrotik router for about 1 week, until now i haven't face a single problem like reboot or hang during torrenting. I highly recommend mikrotik routers for their hardware and their famous os, RouterOS. Or if you wish to use more common brands like tplink, then i would advice you to save some money and buy tplink c3150v2 as suggested by SilentVampire bro. That router has built in antivirus.  rclxms.gif
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no i mean when u use mikrotik and bridge the ac1200 for wifi. is the wifi more stable? does mikrotik router come with AC wifi? i looked at one but the antennas are 2.5dbi only. i think that means the range is not that good right? m still a noob in this. youre right. thats cheap. for me ill have 5-8 devices connected at the same time. actually i never had any problem with my n12hp when i was using 50mbps too. i tried google-ing but cant find a solid reason to use mikrotik. i know its customizable and they say u get enterprise setting at consumer price. but what are this settings if u dont mind sharing a bit?? with n12hp i was getting 50mbps and i didnt have any problems using torrents. always got the max speed. even got max speed torrenting on my macbook. thanks for your time and explanation bro
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post Jan 9 2018, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jan 7 2018, 12:54 PM)
Desperate time calls for desperate measure.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Jan 7 2018, 01:26 PM)
I'm on the beta firmware for C1200v1 EU and it is rock solid for almost 24 hours now.

No disconnect / loss of internet that requires a router reboot
No broken wifi (Wifi is turned on but some devices cannot connect)
Memory usage is currently @ 27%
Cpu usage fluctuates between 20-ish% to 100% - and I'm seeing lower low with this new firmware.

Interesting how this performs over the next few days.
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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jan 8 2018, 01:22 PM)
You will face problem with accessing local devices with this beta firmware...
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Is the beta software stable for you guys? Running EU beta for 24hours now. Same old. Devices get kicked. Perhaps maybe the cpu loaf is more reasonable right now. When I updated. My setting was still there. I didn’t have to restore. Is that way ok? Or hard reset?

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