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 eUT / POEMs / Phillip Mutual Berhad UT discussion, Coz' Fundsupermart not cheapo enuf'!

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post Jul 22 2020, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 22 2020, 09:44 PM)
Go open every fund factsheet and read the fund mandate.
Also observe its top 5/10 holdings.

I don't research in fixed income segment.
Others may help you.
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example like this AmanahRaya Syariah Trust Fund the top 5 holding so no impact
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post Jul 22 2020, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 22 2020, 09:54 PM)
If it has MGS, it'll show "MGS"

Example from IPF:
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so kantoi la for Opus IPF
perlu jual semua ka?
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post Jul 22 2020, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 22 2020, 10:14 PM)
That's why it's better for him to just keep the money in FD, EPF and SSPN.
His heart is not that strong to sustain market high volatility.
Spend time at banks lounge and can get freebies if place FD (for instance, FD from Bank Rakyat).
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i just dont want to burn my saving that i kept for myself and my wife
if FD got 4.5% i should be ok but now no 4.5% le
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post Jul 22 2020, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 22 2020, 10:44 PM)
Uncle first time play, kasi masa sikit.
I last time tengok itu year 2018 pun takut n sakit hati, terus lesap almost one year, 2019 December baru balik.
Luckly, the profit come back especially TA global tech, nasib baik i x jual habis 😁. Still holding.
Nasib baik kenanga growth pun x jual, tunggu profit naik sikit baru switch bcoz is my children saving. Susah mahu jawab dgn isteriku nanti.
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i am learning and you guys are all good ppl helping uncle to learn

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post Jul 23 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 23 2020, 11:00 AM)
How old are you? If you are retirement age consider epf.
I put my parents money into epf.
Beats FD anytime.
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then when your parents need to use like 120k or 200k how u going to withdraw for them?
I am above 60 years old

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post Jul 23 2020, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 23 2020, 02:59 PM)
thanks for the info, will put some inside
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post Jul 23 2020, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 23 2020, 04:08 PM)
They only use RM1-2K/month and they have pension coming in every month.

Epf can put max rm60k/year.
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Medical expenses is no joke at my age
Pls don't put too much as then you will not be able to withdraw
If they put inside ok since they over 60 can withdraw
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post Jul 23 2020, 10:29 PM

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I looking to put 5k each into the following, diversify a bit:
1. Precious Metals Securities
2. RHB Gold And General Fund

any comment sifu sekalian?
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post Jul 23 2020, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 23 2020, 10:31 PM)
Uncle, roller coaster o, u tahan or not? 😂
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10k saja ma
maybe put 1k every month slowly DCA lo
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post Jul 24 2020, 12:37 AM

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cakap saja want to invest but still no balls to press the button
i also din know boleh hilang 50% of investment so crazy?
i am looking for like 8% to 10% saja not worth to fight with this 2 fund lo if boleh hilang 50%
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post Jul 24 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 24 2020, 07:45 AM)
You want 8-10%,
Buy
Aims amp Pacific reit
Prime us REIT.
Manulife US REIT
Keppel Pacific REIT.
Cromwell REIT.
Brookfield property partners.

The above reits are giving out 8-13% dividends.
Is not a unit trust. Is a REIT which is a stick listed majority on Singapore exchange.
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Sekarang corona boleh beli REIT?

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post Jul 24 2020, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 24 2020, 08:00 AM)
Uncle, don't just see the return only, tengok juga volatility.
That two fund give u very high volatility, bo gila u nanti.
U trt click the 10 year chart n reach dulu
U try in that 2 fund both 1k try for 1 year, if ok baru in lagi.
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I go see just now balls also drop
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post Jul 24 2020, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 24 2020, 10:22 AM)
Of course. Lagi good time to buy when price is down.
They collected 90-99% of their rental even during lockdown in case you don't know.
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But long term do you see reit as a good investments?
Even now I go shopping mall some like empty but Malaysia consider good la. Again some tenant also gave up cause cannot pay rental. Have a friend who have 2 lots in berjaya times quare tell me rental 30k per month saja but now 1 day do about 1.2k of business and have 30 employees. Totally cannot cover.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 24 2020, 12:18 PM)
REIT can be in malls rental & management or office space rental.
It depends on the REIT operator portfolio and mandate.
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Be it office rental or mall or even car park problem is people working from home is higher now with covid19
My son now work from home don't need go office since covid19
Everyday talk to a computer more than talk to me
I ask him call his computer father than call me father
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post Jul 24 2020, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 24 2020, 12:23 PM)
Short term wise, REIT is pessimistic.
Medium and long term wise, REIT could be promising.
So as some has said in FSM thread, time horizon is key determinant.
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People always say buy on fear but fear become hear attack die
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post Jul 25 2020, 02:58 PM

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MONDAY I bought wrong fund
Orang tua tengok salah
So I put 1k inside
Then realize Thursday when reflect I do switch la since zero fee ma
During switch on Thursday night the value was 1001.23
Then Friday night I check how come the fund still there I tekan switch lagi I thought I forget to confirm the switch on Thursday still go through
So today I check itu fund lagi Ada and price went up to 1017.56
So I this time check transaction and confirm that I actually executed 2 order
Question 1 - Ada problem ka since I perform duplicate transactions?
Question 2 - so when switch effective it will take the order date price or will take the actual day the switch actually happen?

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 25 2020, 09:43 PM)
No u won't have any problem in fact they already known this bug since the website upgrade.
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so for switch order what value will they take?

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 27 2020, 02:47 PM)
Old man, like this dangerous wor... better pay extra for agent to help you. If screw up pun, can kow-peh-kow-bu ( hokkien lingo for scolding M*th3rf3ck3* ) someone else and let go steam. If self screw up, scold siapa?  rclxs0.gif
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I seriously screw up but small amount as all my UT initial investment all 1k small small amount then once reflect then I will top up weekly
Again the font a little too small in eut
FSM side bigger font
My son help me set zoom to 125% now better a bit
Uncle really old so eye also not so good

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post Jul 27 2020, 04:52 PM

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Question
today i buy into this new UT lets just say UT ABC and the price when i place the order is 1.0000

3 days down the road i yet to see UT ABC appear in my "holding" and the price is 0.9000 (10% drop)

so since it is not appearing in my "holding" screen i cannot even do redemption

then when reaches 4th day when i see it become 0.8000 (20% drop) so now finally i see it if i redeem now then i loss 20% investment

here are my question:
1. is there a way to redeem before u see it in your holding, which i assume no since there is something call T+4 or T+5 before they can actually appear.

2. is there a cooling period, lets just say really so bad luck 1st day beli 1.0000 2nd day become 0.7000, do i get a refund or cancel order or cooling period?

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post Jul 28 2020, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 27 2020, 05:10 PM)
2. You can exercise cooling off for the first time only (not of subsequent top ups) within 6 business days:

The Cooling-Off right refers to the right of the investor to obtain a refund if he should change his mind about an investment he has made in any of the Funds if he so requests within the cooling-off period i.e. within six (6) Business Days of the date of his application.

A Cooling-Off right is only given to an investor, other than those listed below, who is investing in any of the unit trust funds for the first time for each Unit Trust Management Company:

A. A corporation or institution.
B. A staff of Phillip Mutual Bhd.
C. Persons registered to deal in unit trusts of Phillip Mutual Bhd

How do I apply cooling off?
1. Kindly email to phillipmutual@poems.com.my and eUnittrust@poems.com.my for Cooling Off request
2. The refunds for every Unit held would be based on :
i. The NAV per Unit on the day the unit were first purchase
ii. The Sales Charge per Unit originally imposed on the day the Units were purchased.

https://www.eunittrust.com.my/Home/HowTo
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Thank you Bro GrumpyNooby

here come another weird question.

So let just say i purchase UT A for RM1000
Then after 1 week the price went up to RM1001
so technically i earn RM1
So Gross Investment is RM1000, Profit / Loss is RM1
so today i decided to switch from UT A to UT B 100% switch which means i am investing in UT B for RM1001
So now what is the Gross Investment, Profit / Loss?
to my surpise the system will show Gross Investment as RM1001 and Profit / Loss = 0
which i dont understand why



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