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 Electrical Wiring, Maximum Amp for 4mm cable

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weikee
post Apr 19 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Apr 18 2017, 09:31 AM)
thanks a lot guys biggrin.gif its actually conceal in concrete wall with pvc conduit....not using mega cable but made in malaysia cable with SIRIM
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Conceal cables will carry less load. 2.5mm in paper specification can go more than 20amps, but in real life use is better to be limit to 15amps. We cannot guarantee copper purity, bending issues that reduce the copper conductivity etc..

Here can give you some rought guide, always go lower than recommendation, don't go test threshold when life is at stake.

http://www.cable-ratings.co.uk/
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post Apr 28 2017, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(tangenttheta @ Apr 28 2017, 04:40 AM)
Hi, i would like to ask is it safe for live wire for light and ceiling fan to be running at the floor?
And also is it safe for 2x1.5mm and 1x 1.5mm cable to supply 2 rooms and 1 bathroom, with heater, total of 7 sockets and 5lamps, 1 exhaust fan?
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I assume you are running it on first floor for ground floor light if that is ok? You have to know where the wires are if not in future it you drill the floor will hit the wires. putting under the ground floor will be bad as moisture and underground termites may damage the cables.


1.5mm are way too thin, you need minimal 2.5mm, and each room minimal need one mcb, bath room seperate mcb.
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post Apr 28 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(tangenttheta @ Apr 28 2017, 11:06 AM)
It's in the ground floor living room, the wiring supplies fan and light, have 5 wires running in the ground but exposed like this..
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This is really a lousy wiring man job. Furthermore without conduit. Good luck.
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post Apr 28 2017, 11:28 AM

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All standard wiring have to come from top to bottom, not bottom up, water is bottom up.

Unless you have steel wall
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post May 3 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ May 3 2017, 02:16 PM)
House... wanted to loop further points... hence wanted to know the limitations...
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Ring circuit and looping are two different things.
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post May 5 2017, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(heyamazingpeople @ May 4 2017, 11:52 PM)
I have not really come across people talking about ring circuit so there will be cost saving when this ring circuit is able to loop up more power point. (Maybe i have not seen that much)
We usually talk about ring circuit is the redundancy when some wiring somehow breaks and the power point still can work, as the way they are wired is different.

can refer to page 17 in pdf below
Guidelines For Electrical Wiring In Residential - Suruhanjaya Tenaga
(search and download from google)

Not exactly sure what is your application / reason to do so (just want to save money as looping is cheaper? My thinking is costing can be subjective from contractor to contractor anyway. ). But u just have to understand wiring is designed to carry certain Amps, while MCB (circuit breaker) to ensure Amps flowing thru it will not exceed certain Amps.
Wiring can be oversized but MCB rating shall never be bigger than wiring.
Wiring burnt when carrying higher Amps than it is specified and MCB will not trip if it is not selected properly.

And if you compare the schematic from ST, radial circuit vs ring circuit.. isnt that ring circuit will just an additional looping / return wiring to the MCB.. so shouldnt it be costing more?
Well, up to ur contractor to advise.
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The "Malaysian" wireman will define looping as radial.

While actual looping technically can handle more load because the current are return back to mcb via 2 path. Ring will give redundant and more current. But will also give the danger of over load the wires if one of the path break and load are running high.

 

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