QUOTE(rabbitman5555 @ Apr 18 2017, 03:55 PM)
Our company paying full salary as a probation workerWe don't treat them as cheap labor, but unfortunately
They don't appreciate it
Company Fired Interns Story, anyone has any story? Chat
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Apr 18 2017, 08:02 PM
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Apr 18 2017, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Kesh1018 @ Apr 18 2017, 11:48 AM) What do you expect him to do then? Work till 10pm? If the offer letter says 5.30, it's by law to be 5.30 then! Employers these days 😑 Want more salary and demand less working hourThere no such thing, specially if the worker it self Doesn't realise that they are lacking in work planing To complete the job in the 8 hour window. In the end either , you love it or not Things will keep on going with or WITHOUT you |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(ereboskid @ Apr 18 2017, 09:35 AM) he knows his priority obviously, 6 month and part time after work, it tells u that his current job hv no future If you wanna become a boss yourself then don't wastewhats wrong of going home on time? fix ur mindset 1st for me, i choose bosses over job, ofc i would open a hot dog stall burger if i get u as my boss/senior Other people time and money by giving you a chance on The job position. Since you accepted the job, you should put your priority On the job instead of your side business. |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(party @ Apr 17 2017, 10:46 PM) My company is executing this strategy. Kena scolded by boss coz problems not in procedure. I told her if like dat my procedure will reach 1000pages. She said then let it be if not how new joiners want to work smoothly. Kinda agree with your boss on this. In the end it's about efficiency. You faced a problem before you already investigate, experiment and find out the way to overcome it, after that terus document it la. At least next time got similar problem can just follow your update and save time. If not recorded, everytime the staff need to investigate and experiment... Its just wasting time... QUOTE(party @ Apr 17 2017, 10:51 PM) My process is loans and each companies loans is different as it tobcaters them. How to write a procedure to suit them??? Even if types of loans are well known but not the conditions... Well, the thing is most companies are working towards standardizing their processes and to remove variance in any processes. This has been the aim of most companies since six sigma method was developed. It's not about whether people can think or not, I give 1 problem to 10 different people to think and figure out, I might get 10 different answers or at minimum more than 1 different answer which all answers are still correct just the solution or method different. Which is why the current gen workers being breed are textbook type..unable to think, talk and act. And people wonder why their salary so low... Now the issue with having too many ways of handling one thing is that it creates differences in the service level and end user/customer experience. What companies want is for all customers to have the same level of service. Hence standardisation and full documentation of processes is required. If you can't document your process fully, sorry to say it means that either your own knowledge is lacking or you really don't have any technical writing skills. QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2017, 11:16 PM) u dum engineer u no need to write out all problems, sure there will be similar cases that you can lump them together and write a general step to trouble shoot such issues without having to write out redundant problems. ur boss is right, if you don't have a proper guidelines, don't say newbees, even experienced ones will have their own way of doing things because like ur boss said, there's no proper procedure so everything is tru trial & error. if it's something new, trial & error is normal, but if it's something established, you expect new comers to trial & error & self learn? if problems happened before, write it down, write down how you solved the issue, then when you accumulated sufficient issues, get a junior to compile the writings into categories to reduce the number of pages on your guidelines. juniors are not freshies, they should already know the job, so they should be the one compiling ur efforts, then u review, and add amendments or if you aren't senior enough write a proposal to your managers so they can incorporate ur proposal and update the guidelines. if not u will open another thread ranting newbees dunno how to do their job you have to spend this much time to teach them how to troubleshoot. in the end, u just shooting ur own foot. QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2017, 11:32 PM) everyone started as a noob, including you. you just forgotten how noob u were when you started becoz that was long time ago. u probably though u knew everything when you just started and wonder why freshgrads nowadays sucks so bad. Agreed with both your points.it's the same reason why ur dad think ur soft & incompetent compared to folks back in his days. |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 18 2017, 06:47 AM) Then why the hell you accept the job ?You think the company is a safe heaven ah , If you business going down hill ? Waste company money and my time QUOTE(mekboyz @ Apr 18 2017, 09:04 AM) Nothing wrong with it , if you can finishBut honestly speaking , how many can reach that ? Either you arrange your job properly and priority If not you never get to finish everything. |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:32 PM
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So far no issue with any issue with the intern for so many years, all have been OK. Touchwood.
They were intern anyway, expect to come over to learn. Gave them menial task that was related to their education but if they screw up, it won't jeopardize the work. And always have someone to double check their work before using their handiwork. |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(katsumoto2011 @ Apr 17 2017, 10:58 PM) just ask a intern to resign last saturday I always back sharp already working for 6 month still dont know a shit what he doing, ask him spend more time on work to familiarize the job instead of going home on time at 5.30 everyday. you know what he answer me ??? "saya nak jaga gerai burger kat sebelah malam" WTF if you think your burger stall is more important then you job , your welcome to leave |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM) Okay guys since y'all are mostly employees, then I'll ask this question as a student what the point u want higher allowance but u go there theyask u do office work instead ur quantity surveying related? wasting time only..I'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it. So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company? And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end. reputation company depend lo.. plus depend who is ur supervisor.. last time when i in unversity tht time..university ask us to find urself..min 3 month..they wont mind company extend to 6 month depend on ur internship letter provided by ur university u go there learn something and maybe help them |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:43 PM
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we're being too friendly with this one intern
she became too comfortable she's slacking ended up 2 temporary staff have to cleaned up her shits for over a month after her internship was over |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM) Okay guys since y'all are mostly experienced workers, then I'll ask this question as a student Dont worry about company supervisor, most of them understand you wont perform 100% perfect, people make mistakes remember that.I'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it. So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company? And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end. Imho look for company that can offer you vast of opportunities in terms learning new things everyday & not just put in you infront of copying/photostat machine. Monetary comes later when you're looking for real job and getting reputable company is just an add-on for ya nothing fancy. |
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Apr 18 2017, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM) Okay guys since y'all are mostly experienced workers, then I'll ask this question as a student if possible, ask lecturer to provide list of blacklisted company for your referenceI'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it. So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company? And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end. |
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Apr 18 2017, 09:37 PM
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Apr 18 2017, 09:38 PM
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Apr 18 2017, 09:39 PM
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Apr 18 2017, 09:43 PM
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reading this thread really
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Apr 18 2017, 09:52 PM
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Apr 18 2017, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Apr 18 2017, 09:43 PM) reading this thread really I did do OT for mnc company but it's like once every month so no biggie deal.But expect that more company taking advantage of interns just to cope with economy crisis nowadays. |
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Apr 18 2017, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM) Okay guys since y'all are mostly experienced workers, then I'll ask this question as a student find a company that have SOPI'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it. So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company? And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end. In addition, does the myth that in bigger companies you don't get to learn as much as being in a smaller company really exist? most ISO company have a set of SOP to work from |
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Apr 18 2017, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Apr 18 2017, 09:55 PM) I did do OT for mnc company but it's like once every month so no biggie deal. once or a few days a month is okay, some companies need to do deployment and its during non office hours, but alot of companies expect worker to OT every single day, even internsBut expect that more company taking advantage of interns just to cope with economy crisis nowadays. |
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Apr 18 2017, 10:02 PM
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Kesian intern
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