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katsumoto2011
post Apr 18 2017, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(rabbitman5555 @ Apr 18 2017, 03:55 PM)
wtf u ask an intern to OT?
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Our company paying full salary as a probation worker

We don't treat them as cheap labor, but unfortunately
They don't appreciate it
katsumoto2011
post Apr 18 2017, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kesh1018 @ Apr 18 2017, 11:48 AM)
What do you expect him to do then? Work till 10pm? If the offer letter says 5.30, it's by law to be 5.30 then! Employers these days 😑
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Want more salary and demand less working hour
There no such thing, specially if the worker it self
Doesn't realise that they are lacking in work planing
To complete the job in the 8 hour window.

In the end either , you love it or not
Things will keep on going with or WITHOUT you

katsumoto2011
post Apr 18 2017, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ereboskid @ Apr 18 2017, 09:35 AM)
he knows his priority obviously, 6 month and part time after work, it tells u that his current job hv no future

whats wrong of going home on time? fix ur mindset 1st

for me, i choose bosses over job, ofc i would open a hot dog stall burger if i get u as my boss/senior whistling.gif
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If you wanna become a boss yourself then don't waste
Other people time and money by giving you a chance on
The job position.

Since you accepted the job, you should put your priority
On the job instead of your side business.



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post Apr 18 2017, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Apr 17 2017, 10:46 PM)
My company is executing this strategy. Kena scolded by boss coz problems not in procedure. I told her if like dat my procedure will reach 1000pages. She said then let it be if not how new joiners want to work smoothly.
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Kinda agree with your boss on this. In the end it's about efficiency. You faced a problem before you already investigate, experiment and find out the way to overcome it, after that terus document it la. At least next time got similar problem can just follow your update and save time. If not recorded, everytime the staff need to investigate and experiment... Its just wasting time...

QUOTE(party @ Apr 17 2017, 10:51 PM)
My process is loans and each companies loans is different as it tobcaters them. How to write a procedure to suit them??? Even if types of loans are well known but not the conditions...

Which is why the current gen workers being breed are textbook type..unable to think, talk and act. And people wonder why their salary so low...
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Well, the thing is most companies are working towards standardizing their processes and to remove variance in any processes. This has been the aim of most companies since six sigma method was developed. It's not about whether people can think or not, I give 1 problem to 10 different people to think and figure out, I might get 10 different answers or at minimum more than 1 different answer which all answers are still correct just the solution or method different.

Now the issue with having too many ways of handling one thing is that it creates differences in the service level and end user/customer experience. What companies want is for all customers to have the same level of service. Hence standardisation and full documentation of processes is required. If you can't document your process fully, sorry to say it means that either your own knowledge is lacking or you really don't have any technical writing skills.


QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2017, 11:16 PM)
u dum engineer u no need to write out all problems, sure there will be similar cases that you can lump them together and write a general step to trouble shoot such issues without having to write out redundant problems.

ur boss is right, if you don't have a proper guidelines, don't say newbees, even experienced ones will have their own way of doing things because like ur boss said, there's no proper procedure so everything is tru trial & error.

if it's something new, trial & error is normal, but if it's something established, you expect new comers to trial & error & self learn? if problems happened before, write it down, write down how you solved the issue, then when you accumulated sufficient issues, get a junior to compile the writings into categories to reduce the number of pages on your guidelines.

juniors are not freshies, they should already know the job, so they should be the one compiling ur efforts, then u review, and add amendments or if you aren't senior enough write a proposal to your managers so they can incorporate ur proposal and update the guidelines.

if not u will open another thread ranting newbees dunno how to do their job you have to spend this much time to teach them how to troubleshoot.

in the end, u just shooting ur own foot.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2017, 11:32 PM)
everyone started as a noob, including you. you just forgotten how noob u were when you started becoz that was long time ago. u probably though u knew everything when you just started and wonder why freshgrads nowadays sucks so bad.

it's the same reason why ur dad think ur soft & incompetent compared to folks back in his days.
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Agreed with both your points.
katsumoto2011
post Apr 18 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 18 2017, 06:47 AM)
His burger stall earning him more than your own job
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Then why the hell you accept the job ?
You think the company is a safe heaven ah ,
If you business going down hill ?

Waste company money and my time


QUOTE(mekboyz @ Apr 18 2017, 09:04 AM)
I go home at 530 everyday. What's the problem as long as work finish?
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Nothing wrong with it , if you can finish
But honestly speaking , how many can reach that ?

Either you arrange your job properly and priority
If not you never get to finish everything.
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post Apr 18 2017, 08:32 PM

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So far no issue with any issue with the intern for so many years, all have been OK. Touchwood.

They were intern anyway, expect to come over to learn. Gave them menial task that was related to their education but if they screw up, it won't jeopardize the work. And always have someone to double check their work before using their handiwork.

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QUOTE(katsumoto2011 @ Apr 17 2017, 10:58 PM)
just ask a intern to resign last saturday

already working for 6 month still dont know a shit what he doing, ask him spend more time on work
to familiarize the job instead of going home on time at 5.30 everyday.

you know what he answer me ???
"saya nak jaga gerai burger kat sebelah malam"

WTF if you think your burger stall is more important then you job , your welcome to leave  vmad.gif
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I always back sharp blink.gif but able to perform la.
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post Apr 18 2017, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM)
Okay guys since y'all are mostly employees, then I'll ask this question as a student

I'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it.

So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company?

And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end.
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what the point u want higher allowance but u go there theyask u do office work instead ur quantity surveying related? wasting time only..
reputation company depend lo..
plus depend who is ur supervisor..
last time when i in unversity tht time..university ask us to find urself..min 3 month..they wont mind company extend to 6 month depend on ur internship letter provided by ur university
u go there learn something and maybe help them
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post Apr 18 2017, 08:43 PM

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we're being too friendly with this one intern

she became too comfortable she's slacking

ended up 2 temporary staff have to cleaned up her shits for over a month after her internship was over
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post Apr 18 2017, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM)
Okay guys since y'all are mostly experienced workers, then I'll ask this question as a student

I'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it.

So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company?

And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end.
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Dont worry about company supervisor, most of them understand you wont perform 100% perfect, people make mistakes remember that.

Imho look for company that can offer you vast of opportunities in terms learning new things everyday & not just put in you infront of copying/photostat machine.

Monetary comes later when you're looking for real job and getting reputable company is just an add-on for ya nothing fancy.





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post Apr 18 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM)
Okay guys since y'all are mostly experienced workers, then I'll ask this question as a student

I'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it.

So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company?

And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end.
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if possible, ask lecturer to provide list of blacklisted company for your reference
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Apr 18 2017, 08:50 PM)
if possible, ask lecturer to provide list of blacklisted company for your reference
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biggrin.gif this is funniest i read rclxm9.gif moarrrrr
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Apr 18 2017, 09:37 PM)
biggrin.gif this is funniest i read rclxm9.gif moarrrrr
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why funny? sad.gif
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Apr 18 2017, 09:38 PM)
why funny? sad.gif
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i duno but i loled rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:43 PM

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reading this thread really doh.gif , ppl just intern oni, u pay them 600 and u expect them to OT till 10pm for u for free everyday? they dont hav life? employers nowadays really facepalm, all expect employees to b married to their jobs and have no outside life doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Apr 18 2017, 08:41 PM)
I always back sharp  blink.gif but able to perform la.
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if you really finish all your job , you think your boss will ask
you stay back for fun and pay your OT without doing anything ?
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Apr 18 2017, 09:43 PM)
reading this thread really  doh.gif , ppl just intern oni, u pay them 600 and u expect them to OT till 10pm for u for free everyday? they dont hav life? employers nowadays really facepalm, all expect employees to b married to their jobs and have no outside life doh.gif
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I did do OT for mnc company but it's like once every month so no biggie deal.

But expect that more company taking advantage of interns just to cope with economy crisis nowadays.
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(HaramShake @ Apr 18 2017, 08:36 PM)
Okay guys since y'all are mostly experienced workers, then I'll ask this question as a student

I'm studying Quantity Surveying, will need to do a 6months compulsory placement/internship soon. But I'll have to find my own company, the university will not provide it.

So on what criteria should I choose the company? Higher allowance? Size of company? Reputation of company?

And what will the company expect from me? Mind you that this internship will be graded by the company supervisor in the end.

In addition, does the myth that in bigger companies you don't get to learn as much as being in a smaller company really exist?
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find a company that have SOP

most ISO company have a set of SOP to work from

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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Apr 18 2017, 09:55 PM)
I did do OT for mnc company but it's like once every month so no biggie deal.

But expect that more company taking advantage of interns just to cope with economy crisis nowadays.
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once or a few days a month is okay, some companies need to do deployment and its during non office hours, but alot of companies expect worker to OT every single day, even interns
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