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icemanfx
post Jan 4 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 4 2019, 02:25 PM)
Assuming property around 500-1mil, then average to 70k each unit.

> 400k cash for 6 units.
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can buy one deep sea, one bmw 430i, 4 weeks holiday in france, italy and spain, etc.

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post Jan 4 2019, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jan 4 2019, 09:49 PM)
i believe each time you driving, you will read car manual? each time go toilet wash hand, must read manual how to gosok hand with soap
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Yes, signing loan agreement is like eating fillet o fish, everyday affair.

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post Jan 15 2019, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Jan 15 2019, 10:20 AM)
Maintenance is less than 200 each unit, I put it as worst case scenario "touchwood" I need fork out extra 400 per month for god knows what reasons

80k EACH unit.....round of applause?
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Almost half million cash out rclxms.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif some people "migrated" to other country to start a new life with much less than this amount of cash.

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post Jan 15 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Jan 15 2019, 10:56 AM)
It did crossed my mind to just cabut to another country. .  ..XD
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It is hard to resist to indulge yourself with some goodies or rewards.

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post Jan 15 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 15 2019, 03:34 PM)
maintenance fee less than 200 but you bump up to 600??????

you are either a very conservative accountant or a super smart salesman.

i will avoid like a plague for any project that offer 'cash back' scheme. there is only one reason developer gives cash back....that is their selling price is way over market price and they cant reduce the price to sell, therefore they gave 'cash back' to buyers as incentive to move these units with original unattendable SPA price.

Verdi is one great example.......and there is no surprise that verdi was named the honour of top 5 most lelong units in klang valley.
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"cash back" was intended to assist buyer on loan repayment. unfortunately, those foreclosed buyers were not financially disciplined and only have themselves to blame.

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post Jan 17 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jan 17 2019, 01:48 PM)
no la, but got see his free video as reference. what im doing is $0 get the property, same as what you doing currently, just i didnt cash out the additional money. and doing one by one, not compress it. still on process learning too especially on tax reduction and rental income part.
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post Jan 18 2019, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Jan 18 2019, 04:42 PM)
whats the possibility of banks found out bout the compressed loans and take action on it? does it mean you will carry the risk for prolonged duration till you offload the property down the road?
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As long as loan repayment is current, bank would close both eyes.

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post Jan 31 2019, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 31 2019, 01:09 PM)
Another latest video from this sifu.
No idea what he is talking about but I can guess he is encouraging that person to compress few units 600k property.
Good luck to him.
I will see him in lelong few years later.


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Over gearing is not a path to wealth creation. Ability to borrow doesn't mean ability to repay.

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post Feb 1 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Feb 1 2019, 01:13 PM)
How about the value now after another 10 years?
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Feb 1 2019, 01:33 PM)
price increased during 2011-2014 kv property bull run was exceptional.
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post Feb 1 2019, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Feb 1 2019, 10:42 PM)
Very inspiring story. I am sure many who live through property boom 2006—2012 wishes they could buy and leverage more.

Unfortunately feel sorry for those who do loan compression 2013—2017.
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kv property bull run 2011-2014 was a fallout of u.s qe. most of those profited at the early stage, poured back for more and believe many are stuck.

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post Feb 2 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Feb 2 2019, 12:42 AM)
The market for high end condos started crashing right around 2014  starting with the rentals and then the price started falling especially in MK and KLCC. Most investors started pulling out or parring down their holdings by then.
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icemanfx
post Feb 2 2019, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Feb 2 2019, 02:56 PM)
But those sifu (estimate age around 40 years old now) predict that in his lifetime, will experience at least one more time of such property bull run.

All just base solely on past experience. Last 20 years got 1 bull run. So next 20 years will have at least another 1 bull run. No further reasoning why. Just saying base on simple logic.
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Many still failed to realize kv property bull run 2011-2014 was fueled by cheap and easy credit, a fallout of u.s qe. Similarly, the bull run ended when u.s qe started tapering.

With number of overhang and more incoming supply, it will take longer than most expected to digest. By about 2030, Malaysia will become a ageing nation; if Japan is any precedence, property demand and price will be on downtrend.

Believe betting on btc has a higher chance to profit than kv property bull run in the foreseeable future.

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post Feb 2 2019, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(wlctravis721 @ Feb 2 2019, 04:18 PM)
Betting on btc? Surprise this statement coming from our respected icemanfx. Indeed i am more conservative on investment.

My view is never bet on something that you cannot understand and have no control.
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Bitcoin was down 80 per cent from its peak; over 900 digital tokens became worthless; the vaporised value of digital assets exceeded US$600 billion.
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As bitcoin prices have stabilised at around US$3,500 in recent weeks, the social networks where Chinese cryptocurrency enthusiasts gather are full of people who believe the next bull run is just a matter of time.
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https://www.scmp.com/tech/blockchain/articl...rency-stars-are

Both speculation have dedicated fensi, has similar chance to return to their former glory any time soon. however, btc does't incur cost daily (as few buy btc with borrowing) and easier to liquidate.


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post Feb 2 2019, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Feb 2 2019, 07:22 PM)
Wat can v expect fr a fun minizer who insisted on fund forex n now coins
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Unker, you should come out from your coconut shell; the world is greater than kuptong and property is not the only investment opportunity available.
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post Feb 3 2019, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Feb 3 2019, 06:35 PM)
what he wanna say? to those already jump in purchase few unit, prepare some cash tahan the storm, while for the first time buyer ini kalilah should buy although got storm ahead?
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You expect those with vested interest to tell to wait out storm?

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post Feb 3 2019, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Feb 3 2019, 09:16 PM)
wait then wait together. chiong then chiong together.
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During storm, those with vested interest will fill their stomach with north west wind.

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post Feb 23 2019, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ Feb 23 2019, 11:05 AM)
In a way, yes. But it depends on all the auction fees, agent fees, misc considered (I think a few rounds of auctions have been held already)
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Auction fees is pay by bank/borrower. Incidental by buyer is like subsale.

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post Feb 23 2019, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Feb 23 2019, 11:21 AM)
Any property bought before year 2010, owner will still make profit even if sold via lelong price today.

However after 2010, especially if bought during property peak price in 2013-2014 will be another story.
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In nominal sum yes, what about real value after include inflation/loan interest incurred?

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post Feb 23 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Feb 23 2019, 02:22 PM)
Lol. People have doubled or tripled their purchase price and you still talk about pathetic interest to the bank... are u having some kind of mental trauma from missing the bull market? sad.gif
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As if money value doesn't affect by time.

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post Feb 23 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Feb 23 2019, 04:25 PM)
If loan covered by tenant, get +cf some more, low downpayment, price already increased, why have to think about inflation/interest etc?
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If in this case, there shouldn't be any foreclosure in the market.

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