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post May 17 2007, 07:01 PM

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I'm also a college student mah.... Don't tell me there is no such thing as sem break?
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post May 17 2007, 07:10 PM

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Ohh.... no wonder lah express.... then only get a dog after you graduate but you also must consider if you are gonna work long hours...
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post May 30 2007, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ May 30 2007, 11:07 PM)
eh wan to ask how many times u all feed ur under 12mths puppy,and also when the dog reach 1yr..

how long shld i seperate first meal and second meal?

chicken and rice or lamb and rice?
wads the diff?
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Well... it depends... chicken is easy to digest.... but lamb is good for skin.

A puppy would need 3 to 4 meals a day. You just divide to your own timing..... all the meals should be small.... follow the amount on the dogfood bag, it has directions on how much to feed 1 day.
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post May 30 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ May 30 2007, 11:18 PM)
but i dunoe how to agar agar noe the amount lei..
read frm the site of NUTRIEdGE
1/4 to 1½= how much? doh.gif

measuring cup got state ?
is it when the puppy whine for food then i giv la.. but muz limit 3-4 meals a day. shld i buy those milk formula for it also? wad are the other supplements shld i give?
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Yes, you can get the cup from any petshop. I also follow cup tongue.gif

Anyway, don't give food when the puppy make noise... give proper timing.... say 7am or 8am.... then 2pm... then 8pm.... up to you to adjust the time.... but also this depends on the size of the pup. If you need better info, it is best to ask a vet when and how much to feed coz sometimes a pup may be weak in health, so need more meals....

No need, a 8 week old pup doesn't need milk anymore. Do not spoil the puppy, later when older it will make you headache with feeding.

Supplements, normally I advice people just give a little bit of fish oil, that is enough. Coz the dogfood already got vitamins and minerals, if you give more, it can make their health worst than make them healthy. Still, always ask a vet first about the supplements and mention the brand to the vet before buying....
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post Jun 1 2007, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 1 2007, 09:27 AM)
or....mayb during the time u give her the tablet, u poke too deep to her throat and end up she vomit???
Btw, the white color thing she vomitted out, u need to take note oh. Coz my breeder fren told me that, if a puppy got too many worms inside, there is a chance of it vomit worms out!!! imagine how gross..........
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it's true.... the vomit will be very smelly.... A kitten vomited on me and a worm came out. I didn't even deworm the kitten coz just found it stray and was on the way home in the car.... I was really grossed out...
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Dogs need to take heart worm prevention tablets once a month, for the rest of their lives... unless you take the yearly injection, but the vet I normally go to don't encourage the yearly injection for heart worm.

Anyway, mudz, for a puppy that young, the best is deworming syrup... it's like Rm15 a small bottle, not that expensive and it is less stressful for such a young puppy.

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post Jun 3 2007, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 3 2007, 12:30 AM)
lol.. its very normal.. u can aPPly white vinegar dilute with water and aPPly on ur fingers and hand then let ur dog lick..
they dun like the taste wan.. slowly they will know ur hand and finger SUX. lol.
heard frm sumone but 4get who ler.. smile.gif
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No... not dilute in water. It must be pure white vinegar.
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post Jun 3 2007, 12:53 AM

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Stop her from chewing stuff she is not suppose to.... never let dogs get used to chewing hands... this is a bad habit that can become worst when they grow old... it may be comfortable for you but what about visitors who come to your place? Your dog may attack their hands coz you let it chew yours.... so just think about other possibilities as what would happen to others.... don't let your dog develop bad habits.
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QUOTE(kenrain @ Jun 3 2007, 06:07 PM)
Cool!! at last I finished reading this thread.. 15 pages... sweat.gif I am a silent reader and only create an account last few days. Anyway thanks everyone for the guide on puppy care. I've managed to follow most of the guide by everyone here.

I just got a male GR for 3 weeks, had 1st vaccination, and he's 3 mths old now. He's easily taught (with everyone's guide here). During this 3 weeks, he've learnt 2 basic command, which is "SIT" and "DOWN". Even tho sometimes he's still reluctant, but he do understand the 2 commands.

About toilet training, initially I've managed to get him to pee at the news paper (wake up few time in the midnight and bring him pee/poo at the newspaper) but later on due to time and space constraint, I've not much time to paper train him. Ocasionally he do pee or poo at his sleeping place if can't hold the pee/poo, because I didn't have time to take him to pee/poo, so I'd need to clean it up for him.

Everything goes well but unfortunately he's not feeling well. Diarrhea and eat less. When I first brought him back, he do have diarrhea as well. But that time, I thought that it was because of the new environment that he's not confortable of. After few days of bringing him back, his poo shows sign of improvement. Then it was my mistake to change the dog food completely at that time. He starts to diarrhea again.

Till last few days, I decided to bring him to the vets. Bad news that I have, the vetinerian told me that my GR is showing sign of canine distemper which is have diarrhea, nose discharge, poor apetite, vomiting, foot pad hardened and coughing. Now have medication and boil chicken everyday only. Need to go back to the vets after 7 days to see if there's improvement. If not then the vets told me to prepare for the worst sad.gifsad.gif It's a very sad case.... He's only 3 mths old and need to suffer from this disease... Is that my fault of not getting him to vets earlier ??

Anyone here have any proven/known idea of helping my GR to recover from this disease?
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Hmmm.... when you have brought your pup back home, you should have taken straight to the vet for a full check up. Did you get your pup from a puppy dealer or petshop? Coz normally distemper is common in puppy farms.... and this spreads to dealers and petshops....

Well, follow what the vet says, proper treatment and all... I have not experience distemper before so have no idea about the chances of recovery.... but I do know it is dangerous for puppies.

QUOTE(Takezho~* @ Jun 3 2007, 11:09 PM)
how to praise?

like keep hugging it?

cause if u praise it by saying good boi good boi..it's not like he could understand right =.=
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Praising means happy voice. Dogs and puppies understand our tone of voice. If you said Good boy in a deep and angry voice, it will most likely run away or hide, say it in a high happy laughing tone and they understand. Patting and hugging can be reward as well. It depends on how you wanna train.
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 4 2007, 12:02 AM)
full check up include wad? how much?
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Normally it will include blood test, heartworm test, check the joints, feel the whole body, check stool and teeth.... plus deworm if needed... check heart beat and breathing.... depends on the vet.
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post Jun 6 2007, 08:07 PM

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Each dog and pup got their own timing... some may take a few days to learn, stubborn ones take more than a few months. Please, Mudz, you must remember, you pup in particular is very young. Separated from the mom too early so it had no chance to learn where to pee and poo correctly also. Normally pups taken away at a very young age from their mom or are at petshops take a longer time to paper train since no one teaches them properly. All you can do is be consistent, be patient when training and always do it the proper way.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 7 2007, 11:27 AM)
so good.......i also try let FIFI sleep in my room (not in cage) before for 3 days. The 1st 2 days ok, i sleep she sleep, i wake she bising, wan food.
Then the 3rd day, when i wake up, got pee stain on the floor.........she peed there middle of the nite. So no more!!! Back to the cage, but still in my room lah, haha.........
I try this during weekend. But later when FIFI grown up a bit, like 6 months old, mayb will try again.
FIFI will not kacau me for pee or poo, but will kacau me when wanna play and wan food. But normally when she is hungry, is time for her to pee and poo also. So see me wake up, excited, then u know wat happen next............  doh.gif  Need to clean the floor loh......
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Hahaha.... slowly train Fifi.... she will grow up to be a good shih tzu lah. Last time my male shih tzu, won't simply pee around. Even as a pup, he will tahan till someone let him outside. When he was a puppy, we used to cage him but he never once pee or poo in his cage as a pup. When older, he knows how to open cage so we instead tie him up at night.... later, I manjakan him lah, let him sleep in my room. He will sleep on his own pillow.... but will never pee or poo in my room. He will make the whining sound to wake me up when he wanna pee. Got once I babysit my friend's shih tzu mix poodle, pee everywhere in my room hahahah. Then now my ckcs, when got her at 5 months, pee on my bed and poo in my room.... damn naughty... she only stopped doing those things when around 1 year old. Only sometimes she cannot tahan, she will pee and poo on the floor, still ok lah.

About the peeing when see visitor.... this happened to my grandpa's dog... as a pup, he gets excited when see me or new people.... and when he is excited, he jumps... and when he jumps, he pees.... so you can imagine, it felt like water pistol shooting pee at our legs.... very scary.... this habit stopped when he reached 1 year old...
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This is why I said before mah, some dogs can learn in a few days, some a few weeks, some a few months and some a year.... coz it depends on the individual puppy, whether stubborn or slow learner or fast learner.
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But you make sure your apartment can keep dogs first.... Later cannot, then not fair for the dog as well.
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Basenji is super rare. Only 1 in Malaysia, but they are a barkless dog, superb for apartment coz no noise hahah.... they only whine and make soft noises during play or wanting attention.

It is always best to ask management... if can't rear, then nevermind lah, aim to get your own place like a landed house, then you can have your dream dog hahahah.
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Basenji express themselves through a series of whining and soft noises....
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Basenji

http://www.canismajor.com/dog/basenji.html

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/basenji.htm

They don't bark but they do make noise in a way it doesn't sound like a dog at all hahahah... some say sounds like a human laughing, some say sounds like baby crying....

They may make ok apartment dogs since don't bark, but they need lots of walks and exercise since they are a hunting dog naturally.

They also don't drop fur... a bit like a maltese... so cool hahaha.
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I also can't imagine.... really odd hahahah.... but at least it won't make people suspect it is a dog making the sound hehehehe.
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 25 2007, 12:12 PM)
hey guys, hv a question here.
hope 2 get some answers b4 my 5 lil new born pups get take away by the council.

they r rott x spitz = rottiespitz [mogrels?]
born bout 2 weeks ago.
my parents made asked the carpenter 2 make a new shelter for them, which is like a dog house dat fits the mother and the 5 pups. a 50watt bulb is fixed on the "ceiling" to keep them warm, as junnie said. its on 24 hours, as my hometown has the famous name of "raintown", which it rains almost everyday.
we gave them puppy's milk as the mother doesnt have enough milk to feed all 5 pups. she's a lil skinny.
the pups keep on crying every minute, and we dunno wats wrong with them, even the vet says they're very healthy. eyes open already, think they can see us.
they oni stop crying when my bro carries them, n bring them into my house. my mom was a bit angry this morning, she whack one of the small butts cos the pup was crying too loud n its annoying, carried her inside the house, left her in my jack-jack's cage, on the fan. she immediately went quiet.

1. isit too hot ourside that they cant stand the heat and went crying all over? [i don think so cos it always rains, and the shelter is quite cooling. we left towels there 2 keep them warm in case its too cold]

2. the mother doesnt really like 2 go near them, n seldom feed them. y? how can i make her like her kids?

3. the way the pup cry is like crying 4 attention. after some1 pets their head or carry them they'll stop. y?
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Firstly, how big is the shelter? Female dogs need space... normally a breeding kennel should be large enough for the female dog to get some space away from the puppies.

Anyway, the puppies feel insecure since the female dog doesn't want to feed them. Also, it may be you and your bro and disturbing the female dog too much. Do you go inside the shelter and handle the pups often? How close and friendly is the female dog towards you and your bro? Some dogs prefer to have more alone time with their puppies coz in the wild, if you look at wolves, the female wolf will never let any other strange wolf into the den that has her pups. She will only let her pups come out when they are about 6 weeks old. So wolves and dogs a slightly similar in nature.

It is normal for pups to cry. So you shouldn't whack pups when they are so young, no matter how annoying.

The puppies may be feeling uncomfortable outdoors.... even in a shelter, they need warmth. The light bulb doesn't work coz the light bulb has to be 8 inches away only can feel heat. If it is high up, there is no heat for the pups.

QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 25 2007, 07:22 PM)
well the vet says itz irritated so tatz y my pup's scratching on the eye gave me an eye cream...kinda hard to put it on and kinda cruel too imagine ppl put 1 layer of cream on ur eyebal... bought a head cover so he wun scratch anymore
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Erm, you never been to eyes specialist before? Most antibiotic creams for dogs are actually available in our pharmacies because it is meant for humans... so you mean I apply the cream on my eye, I am being cruel to myself? LOL....

You better get a 2nd opinion. That is not a head cover, a E-collar. Be consistent with the antibiotic ointment, dogs have sensitive eyes.
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 25 2007, 09:55 PM)
means dat the light bulb has 2 b very near?
i sked the female dog would bang it..

the shelter is about 3feetx5feet. the female is quite small in size..she owez walk away from the puppies, go to the front of my house, near the cars, den sleep underneath the cars. isit too hot for the Taz[female] dat makes her go away?

even though she moves the pups somewhere elz she wont bother 2 feed them. haven got bac my hometown yet this week, da condition was told by my mother. she's expecting a letter from the council. i think the neighbours complaint.

my bro din wanna go near the pups as no matter wat he does they'll still cry, so better stay off. Taz has a good relationship wif us. she allows us 2 feed the pups for her, as the vet says she doesnt hv enuf milk to feed all the pups. she oni nurse the pups once daily.

my niehgbour had dogs too, but when the female deliver da pups, she was very aggressive n bit the owner who's trying 2 go near n peep da pups. so i think Taz is okay wif us lookin at her pups. din wanna go too near 2 them oso, cos i noe they wouldnt like it. its my bro who owez feeds da pups when they're really hungry..
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Well, for heat people would put heater or build the shelter to be warm with bricks.... the light bulb will not work with your Taz around. The heat generated is very little from the light bulb. For reptiles we use red heat light but it eats alot of electricity and the big heat lamps are not suitable since they are very powerful.

I guess they are crying coz Taz is not with them. They feel vulnerable and insecure without their mom. 3ft by 5ft is ok but I guess Taz doesn't feel comfortable inside.

If she is not nursing much, you have to help feed the pups. Puppies need to nurse every 4 hours.... also, did your brother clean their genitals and anus after feeding with a wet cloth?

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