When the other party made the police report, there would have been photos taken by the police for the record.

Can you request for those photos? You might be able to tell from the damage to the car as to who hit who.

if i remember correctly the petronas station is set fruther back from the u-turn described in by the ts

how come langgar lari?

from the story it shows the other party already made report...it is not compulsory to stay at the scenea after any accident...deswai got police for us to report and they will investigate...

How come? Because the person who saw the car see him sped off with no concern.

If that ain't hit and run just because he's got a sensational police report, I don't know what is.

I'm about to curse, but I shall refrain from doing so. Yes, I'm upset with your insinuation.

Dear TS

Firstly, I am truly sorry to hear about your loss. My sincere condolences to you and your relatives.

Are there any photos of the accident scene taken prior to debris/bike removed from the road? Can I also know how the scene/road look like? If this have already been shared earlier, do let me know which page.

I want to see the road structure.

Hi there.

I'm sorry that I could not. There was only one picture of the deceased that was taken by a passer by, in a sitting position before he slipped into a coma but I have not been allowed to post the picture of the deceased.

All I know is that it happened in a dual lane road in Arang Bakar, not too far away from Petronas. It happened around 100m from some shop lot area, (but from google maps I think the entire area is developed?)

I'm trying to narrow down, but the deceased was only finally buried after final rites and last respects on 9th April, 2017.

If I can find a way to upload the pic censoring the deceased, I may, if I have the permission. The family is still grieving.

You don't have to share the photo from the incident. A photo from google map of the road structure would help.

I will try. I'm sorry because the family is just too grieving to mention details.

hyperyouth_firepower this is why nowadays people smart already. even accident best to run away fast fast first then later on only go report to police later what happened. if they remain on scene and met people like you and your thinking and relative donno what will happen to their own lives. too emotional and too heart feeling than brain feeling.

donno full story yet already blame the other party call people perpetrator. you got see it happened? so fast blame others. people already reported to police of what happened. if really at fault no dare go report police station. now report already and let police to take care of business. don't simply call other criminals without proof!!

Nice try trying to insinuate I would have assaulted him, with knee-jerking eh?
There were people who assisted my cousin. Somebody much later found out and reported the car plate number, to which the deceased's family went to update the police report, and then found the other party's report, so full of sensationalism about my cousin "ramming into his car" for no reason. Some people have offered to try to see if they can find the same passerbys who helped my cousin, because they were able to inform how the accident happened. Right now, I'm just trying to find the same set of people and hopefully they can testify as witness.

And you say there's no basis to blame the other party?

Really?

Are you trying to troll here?

Sorry bro. Only thing I can do is pray the fcker will get what he deserve.

Let's say he is right, let's just say he is right, the family is ready to accept, after all they just want to know the truth. It doesn't change the fact that my cousin already left this world.

However, its the police report made by the other party that's suspicious. That's why I'm appealing if there are witnesses who can come forward. If the other side is a liar, he should be charged as a liar.

hyperyouth_firepower
To TS, my deepest condolence to you /your cousin 's family and may be rest in peace.

Now on the topic at hand, I'm afraid I won't be able to help much besides spreading the word around as I'm based in KL.

From what I've read and assumptions from the bike damage as described by you, it may very well be your cousin did in fact rammed the car.
However whether it is the driver or rider 's fault (eg: car making a sudden turn, or without signaling etc) would be unclear without witnesses.

Regardless who's fault, the car driver should have stayed on the scene to help, if anything, it may not have sparked this thread when everyone is at scene and have everything clarified on the spot.
Right now, in my humble opinion, the burden of proof lies to the car driver as the driver fled the scene, and in most cases, you only flee in fear /of guilt.

I too, have faced similar/same case (s), and fortunately have survived albeit with permanent implants on my spine.

2 cases, both which have respective threads on LYN:
- 15 May 2016 a car hit and run me while I'm on my bike
- (can't remember exact date) a kapchai rammed into my iswara from behind and both riders/pillion (passenger) were not wearing helmet and there was a lot of blood on the scene. Thankfully both of them survived. It was clear I wasn't guilty and neighbors/witnesses were fortunately on my side and so were the police.

With the above 2 experience, I can say that I have my share of experiences on both ends and my general /personal advise is to not be emotional in dealing with this case.
Most importantly, do respect the immediate family of the deceased 's decisions.

Technically speaking its not hit and run.

Infact when I was working in a certain majority state... the police told us to NOT STOP if we get into an accident with the locals as we will be in "trouble", told us to drive directly to the police station.

Agreed and quoted for truth on this

Such injuries is very unlikely happened to kapchai if he's the one ramming the car.

If the other way around, its possible.

And also possible to have both party speeding..

Sure got at least 1 witness but in today's world who wants to trouble themselves? Good samaritans suffer much losses most of the time.

Hi joe bro,joe_kopitiam is another guy? At first I thought you changed identity and prefer pink now. joe-kopitiam must be a secret admirer maybe he's a she

I agree with the first part of your post. Just have to let it go. It happened to my family,42 years ago. A son was lost just like that. No compensation,nothing. It was a hit and run too. Nobody saw who did it bcs the driver took off so fast. He would still have to pay back his karma.

I disagree with the highlighted portion. How could an innocent person suffer for the sins of others? The disabled child must be repaying his/her own karma.

Think of it this way. It could be destined this particular soul will be reborn as disabled person, destiny will made t so that the soul to be birth into the care of another sinner. A chance for him to redeem himself together along with the child.

The worst could happen to u is looking at ur child suffer while u are unable to do anything. My theory is very far fetched but it helps me sleep better at night. Helps remind me to do as much good as possible