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Darkcity212
post Feb 27 2018, 05:50 PM

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Hi guys any review for landsail 588 UHP please?
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post Mar 1 2018, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 27 2018, 06:10 PM)
Not really a UHP tire and not good performance, read the review below from Tire Review UK:

"Positive: Short braking distance in the wet and dry
Negative: Handling not good enough in the dry. Very weak aquaplaning resistance.
Overall: The Landsail LS588 UHP were surprisingly unbalanced. Braking in the wet was excellent, but handling very unstable. In addition, the tyre copes worse than the others with emergency manoeuvres and is quite susceptible to aquaplaning. On dry pavement they again quickly stopped the car, but had very slow response to steering. Lateral grip and stability are too weak for the optimal performance of a sharp manoeuvre at high speed. Because of their softness they demonstrated a high level of comfort, effectively absorbing road irregularities."

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Landsail/LS588-UHP.htm
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This review is based on the author. They test based on hardcore driving experience but for the average drivers it should be pretty good then premium tyres ( unless u go for track racing and wack corners frequently) considering the price and review based on the actual drivers on the link above, should give it a try. There are no actual drivers here who had them on so I'm gonna try it out myself and share some feedback. Plus it should be good for our shitty roads as describe by the author themself. I also saw a BMW forum some beemers are quite satisfied with it!

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post Mar 2 2018, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 2 2018, 12:57 PM)
Those tests were done by people who has the proper skill and equipment to evaluate tires, not just some random blokes who do not have much idea, experience nor the necessary driving skill to compare and evaluate. You see, people can say they just drive normally but when on emergency situations or even in heavy rain downpour which often happens in Malaysia, you WILL be forced to extract the limit of the tires, hence if you use shit tires like this then you can guess yourself the chances that you will have (especially this tire since it's already mentioned that it's very unstable in wet conditions with very weak aquaplaning resistance!).  smile.gif  Tires is also the easiest and the most improvement that you can make to your car's handling behavior or vice versa, so the crappier the tires the worse the car handling will be so ask yourself, do you really want to purposely worsen the handling capability of your car just to save a few bucks?  Do you want to risk yourself in heavy rain condition by using this shit tire? But anyway suite yourself, we can only recommend what we think it's the best for your safety and the safety of others as well but the risk is on your own.  smile.gif  What size are you using btw??
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265/35/18 and 235/40/18. Cause its wider I figure the handling should be ok?

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post Mar 2 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 2 2018, 01:25 PM)
On what car are these?? See, if you cannot afford properly good tires for your rim size, don't use such big rims in the first place! Use big rims for what, showing off only??  doh.gif  Even if you think the width provide extra grip but in fact better tires at smaller sizes may still outperform shit wide tires at the limit, especially their controllability. Note also wider tires will be easier to aquaplane, hence now you're thinking to use tires which is already noted as having shit aquaplaning resistance too at such wide sizes, so go figure how they will perform in the wet!   laugh.gif  Actually IMHO shit tires like this is only suitable for people who has mad driving skills with lighting reflexes and very high sensitivity to sense the tires at the limit, in other words a professional/race driver. Normal drivers like us need better tires to compensate for our normal driving skill to keep us safer. So unless you're a pro driver, better avoid shit tires like this!
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review from users at tyresreview UK :-

After reading these positive reviews i gave landsail a chance on my rear wheel drive remapped bmw(rear axle). I must say honestly that they are briliant! Finaly got confident back after previously tried other cheap tyres which was dangerous especialy on wet road! 588's are "glued" to wet roads, no more unwanted roundabout drifts 😉! And they ar e much cheaper than premium brands with the same performance.

P/s : if u haven't tried its no point commenting how shitty it is also. Most tyre shops speaks good about it saying according to their customers. Most people are just stuck at premium tyres and saying how bad about other tyres are without trying them on

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post Mar 2 2018, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 2 2018, 06:08 PM)
Still pro drivers do have more skill than average drivers, no denying there so when they are faced with emergency situations they have better reaction and response on how to control the car, for example handling the car in a skid or emergency braking. Then there's the level of mentality, pro drivers will be calmer in such situations as they have experienced it many times before, while average drivers tend to panic and react often wrongly. They are also more sensitive on how the car behaves especially approaching and past the limit as they have done it countless times. So yeah, even in normal roads their skill and experience will still give them advantage to handle critical situations.
Normal people who review cannot be taken too seriously because as I said most likely they don't have the skill and the equipment to do a proper assessment, and their experience with various different tires are still comparatively much more limited to the pro reviewers. It's like if you're used to using a low end/slow phone/computer, then when asked about another slow laggy computer then you will say it's still not bad, but if you already tried the good ones then now you know how crappy the crap ones are!  laugh.gif  Same with cars & tires, if you haven't tried good tires, then you may not have the idea how good it should be, so the shit one you think are still ok.

Shops of course will speak good things la, they will try to sell to make money what!  brows.gif  So you want to believe everything shops tell you? We as customers must be smarter than that!

I personally would not try crap tires like that, coz I value myself better than just the price difference of such cheapo tires vs the good ones. I also enjoy driving and having decent handling or at least to maximize the handling capability of my car, so no I would not risk worsening it! I actually had tried low end cheaper tires before even though not as cheap as this Landsail, for example a low/mid range model of GT Radial, low end models of Goodyear/Bridgestone/Continental and even those were already shit!  sweat.gif So trying even lower ones like this Landsail or other China tires?? Thanks, but no thanks! laugh.gif 

Anyway it's up to you, none of my business coz it's your money, your car, your life. I just give recommendation based on what I think is the best way, up to everyone to take or not, I don't really care actually.  smile.gif
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Calm down no need to get heated up over a debate biggrin.gif review from reputable tyre shops like tyres pro also speaks highly about landsail. They have a variety of premium tyres but I said was in a budget range then he highly recommend this brand. People from BMW club who uses high end premium tyres also said its not a bad tyre after they tried it unlike u who haven't tried it yet wink.gif

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 2 2018, 07:02 PM)
Who says I'm heated up? I'm as calm as ice here and I keep smiling right?  laugh.gif

As I said, if shops, no matter what they only think about profit! Of course they will say good things about products that they carry ma! Where got shops who have some products and then tell you they are shit???  laugh.gif

People in BMW club can be anybody, who knows what! The only thing sure about these people are they definitely have money but that doesn't say anything about how good they are when comes to evaluating tires properly.  Reputable media on the other hand do have such experience as they have done it many times over. So who do you trust, a nobody just because they own BMW or belonging in some BMW clubs, or people who really know what they are doing and even actually live by doing such reports??? Common sense should prevail there.

As for myself, as I said I have tried lower end tires before which are still more reputable than this Landsail and yet they're already shit, why on earth should I go even lower to try even shittier ones??? It's like you already tried some crappy food and yet you want to try those even lesser ones just for the sake of trying?? C'mon dude, again common sense shall prevail!

Anyway I think you've made up your mind so no matter what anybody said here, it will never change your mind coz you just want to buy cheapo tires, either because you're a cheap skate or you just really cannot afford properly good tires since you've gone with too big rims without thinking of the consequences! (You know better which one are you). So I'm not gonna waste more time trying to convince you otherwise as it's also none of my business, so help yourself.  smile.gif
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Dont have to look down on people like your one high end roller smile.gif I can buy premium tires for all I want but why wanna be stupid like u to buy expensive tires when u can pay for something lower and equivalent smile.gif those BMW members are from Malaysia forum and the reviewers from UK forum are from "UK" which u don't even know them. So stop acting like a high roller and Mr know it all before even using them your making a joke of yourself smile.gif

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post Mar 3 2018, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 3 2018, 10:03 AM)
Naah I know the type of people like you dude, all show but no go kind of people, buy big bling2 rims just for show but then be a cheapskate on tires. I've seen too many like you, so typical gaya only people and lacking common sense.  laugh.gif  Anyway as I said, I'm not going to convince you otherwise and definitely you've made up your mind even before you ask, so no point asking really. Have a good day.
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Lol people like u are quite obvious to tell. All the tcss but no perform biggrin.gif Have not even tried yet act smart. People like u just stuck in a box and no go. No need to convince cus nobody will even listen to one like u. Have a good day bro biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 3 2018, 05:36 PM)
Yeah quite obvious to tell who has common sense, and who has style only but no substance la!  biggrin.gif  As I said you can try any shit you want, have fun!  laugh.gif
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Your quite reputable for running your mouth like one big shot but in reality your only an average Joe keyboard master who probably drives a honda biggrin.gif yeah I know many people like u and yeah I'll try whatever shit I want thanks for your comments and for making my day! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 3 2018, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 3 2018, 09:09 PM)
Hahaha whatever dude. I never claimed I'm no average Joe and what's wrong with driving a Honda?? (Even though I don't). At least I'm an average Joe who still hasyourommon sense unlike some show off guy with big ass rims but cheapskate on tires ya. And now your dumb ass mouth also want to insult Honda owners here??  doh.gif  Do you know Honda also makes expensive cars like the NSX which I'm pretty sure will humiliate whatever you drive now especially with that Landsail that you're planning to get??  laugh.gif You're a joke dude, like I said typical of people with show off mentality without substance. I can imagine guys like you be so proud like "look I got this nice big ass rims on my nice big ass car and what do you drive, a Honda??" but yet you're using cheapo China crap tires??? laugh.gif You're funny dude, really!  biggrin.gif
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Hahaha dude your so hilarious. what a joker! Keep on bragging to your friends about your expensive tyres biggrin.gif what car do u even drive dude? Look, I have seen mercs or gtr using landsail and rich people using cheap tyres bcus to them tyres does not represent status but apparently it does for u. That clearly show what a loser u are biggrin.gif!! Go brang to your friends and don't make fun of yourself here. Peace biggrin.gif!
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 4 2018, 06:36 PM)
Yadayadayadaya, blablabla...I have a lot more respect to people who drive humble Honda/Toyota or whatever but understand the importance of tires and have common sense to use properly good and safe ones rather than shallow show off people like you who use big bling2 rims (probably fake ones too) but be a cheapskate on tires! You're a dime in a dozen dude, fake people aplenty. You just go brag to your friends about your big bling2 rims on your big ass car with that China tires ya.  laugh.gif  I don't want to waste anymore time with you so yeah, bye2!
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Hahaha! U see, clearly it is u my friend, who the only one here bragging about your tires while I'm just asking for realistic opinions but here u are belittle others who may be smarter and more money then u for buying a cheaper alternative. Plenty of legit cheapskate alike can only afford to buy expensive tires and brag about while others don't even give 2 fcks about your tires. People reading your comments can clearly judge your character itself and there are people here can afford ten times of your tire and car but wiser to seek cheaper equivalent alternatives so yeah, u have a nice day my friend smile.gif peace out!
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Mar 5 2018, 11:42 AM)
Not too bad la....big brands also have cracks like that developing down the road. Still good to drive.
Bro/sis, if you're in the forum long enough you'll know who 6UE5T is. And his ride is no secret if you're in this car forum long enough and consistent enough.

There are brands that are both good and affordable, and hankook is one the best value for money. Just go look around at mudah website.
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With all do respect la. I was just asking for a cheaper alternative but instead of recommending he was just belittle people for buying cheap tires as if he is the only one can afford. Better to stay humble
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Mar 6 2018, 12:50 PM)
wow, didnt know such toxic attitude exists here, this is supposed to be a place to advise and help noobs, not for some 'smart ass' to show off his knowledge of tires, noobs dont know about tyres that is why they ask here, dont call them dumb or say they wan gaya because use bigger rims etc

so lansi punya attitude then dont advise ppl la doh.gif
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there u go thanks for clarifying and well said bro! i know plenty of people like that who buy premium tyres and belittle others
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QUOTE(aKatoRA @ Mar 7 2018, 11:04 PM)
Tires are the only thing that touching the ground for your car, and if u decided to go for non-branded tires you are putting yourself and other road user in a risk. Why those big tires company spending so much money on r&d? That’s why is more expensive.

There are reason why your car are fitted with 16’ or 18’ rims and that particular size of tires. Changing the size might cause some ‘side effect’.

If you ask me, tires and break is the #1 and #2 priority for my car, rims are just...... nice to have but not important.
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All these are just theories la. U have to try it out to know. I use expensive tires before also can wear so fast where else the cheaper archilles can last longer but only noisy. To me rubber is just rubber of course premium tires spent allot on marketing/advertising to convince gullible buyers alike and people are still stuck in the mindset of expensive is always better but not in every case. I tried landsail not because I can't afford premium tyres but I want to find out myself if there's a cheaper alternative yet good to use and my driving style requires me to change tire yearly despite using cc5 and pirelli before. So far quite satisfied and comfort. I've asked people around the only negative feedback I got is from those smartasses who haven't tried
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Mar 8 2018, 01:42 PM)
Finally the crux of the issue is out, mainly wanting to save some bucks because change tyres yearly. Well, kinda understandable since your sizing so large, big brands indeed may rake up multiples of landsail price.

But with you running down a set of tyres yearly, just wonder, you play a lot of drifting and gymkhana? Or you play stancer?
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Idk I just drive normal everyday but it wears out real fast .perhaps the quality of continental tires are just not good. If there's no other choice i would stick to premium but of course a budget solution would help. If I spend 1k on per tire and only lasts 1 year plus it doesn't make sense..
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its like now i ask about how is xiaomi phones are they good or not, then u come n say u never used a xiaomi phone before but all china phones are bad n samsung sony etc is the best n give ur reasonings about how bad is china phones n how gud is korean phones, ppl asking A , u answer B
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i thought he had enough but he still wana go on about it biggrin.gif
and who calls people cheapstake for buying cheaper tires? im not making remarks to any honda drivers here accept for u. cause u drive a honda yet talking like a bigshot and belittle others calling people cheap and whatnot who wanna go for a budget tire cause u think only u can afford premium tires.
that's not how u give advise to others. I appreciate others advice tqvm!
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Mar 12 2018, 12:01 AM)
hahaha, now wan personal attack on ppl??

so let me explain to your idiot brain again,

1) he is asking about Landsail tyres from REAL landsail tyre users, are you one of them? have u used landsail tyres before?

2) NO U DIDNT, but u gave him stupid and irrelevant answers by saying all cheap tyres SUCKS even though u didnt used LANDSAIL tyres before

3) he obviously didnt want to listen to ur stupid advice, then u butthurt go personal attack ppl say ppl cheapskate etc, ppl dun listen to ur stupid advice then u still wan go attack ppl? WOWWW, so ego mia sorhye

firstly u gave ppl irrelevant advice, then butthurt ppl dun wan listen to ur advice n go personal attack ppl n claim u are smart etc, HAHAHAHA damn funny la u

mod shuld jz ban kao dis idiot
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let this clown be making fun of himself. picking up every comment that could back his ass up biggrin.gif this kind of fella too proud of himself that he kiss mirror everyday and even have posters of himself in every wall in his house. let him be stuck in his own world. Still wan to call people cheap for opting/looking for cheaper alternative . L0L! dude who are u that i have to answer your question as to what car i drive? doesnt really matter what i drive honestly. bmw, mercs, bently, all in all, the real cheap guy here is him. Clearly this dude butthurt and cant get enough. this kind of naive people love himself too much and everything is base on his own opinion. what an idiot ! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 12 2018, 12:04 AM)
Yeah maybe, but whatever it is, must be some big expensive car but probably ashamed to admit coz then people will see how cheapskate he/she is to use cheapo China tires even after being told (with proper reference) that it is a bad idea.  laugh.gif
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who are u that i have to tell? doesnt matter what car it is as i do not need advice from someone as kiasu as u. people like u judge other people based on what tire he/she uses really seriously can go dai la lol. idk what else to say this to this kind of loser xD
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Mar 12 2018, 11:19 AM)
i see i see  nod.gif  nod.gif Thank you for reminding that the free speech space here was "abused"  cry.gif

So people sell you A insurance RM100 for 100k medical coverage, then get info from some other place say this is good deal, should buy. Mana tau another B insurance company sell RM100 for 150k medical coverage. Then some "lansi lanyong" folks just pointed out, "eh, got better deal, forget about A, consider B insurance."

Fuh kena, cucuk....you think mod so free to check every single post meh....

Tag him in la....report the "offensive" posts, so we can get "free holidays"  icon_idea.gif
Really wonder why so easily offended when a friendly advise can turn so hostile and twist into personal attack.

It is like playing chess with a pigeon, even if win against it, no matter what, still shit on the chess board....
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like what u said, someone offer issurance A for 100k coverage and someone else offer u insurrance B for 150k coverage. Surely your interested in company A because its more value but that someone call u a cheapskate or cheapo going for that option when he didnt even know jackshit about it biggrin.gif
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well it made this thread become more lively and fun because of that clown biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Mar 15 2018, 02:08 PM)
Lol. Drive big car with big wheels but cannot afford the requisite tyres?
There's a Chinese proverb that says, "if the hat doesn't fit, don't wear it".
I agree with the other guy said, you really know nuts about tyres if you think rubber is rubber and it's all the same.
Who is the clown when you're the one telling people to calm down and then proceeds to call the other person names? you.
All the same, please drive safely and do regular tyre maintenance (check with your regular tyre shop staff to educate yourself on that if you don't know) so perhaps your tyres will last just a bit longer.
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well at least u have some manners. he started calling names first assuming i couldnt afford tires. let me reiterate that i can buy any brands i want but my main point is to look for a tire with good quality that suits my driving style thus i wouldnt need high end performance tire and pay for something i dont use. some people just prefer to listen from someone assuming cheap tires bursts or whatever shit but it also happens in premium tires.

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