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TSbuzdev2
post Mar 28 2017, 08:53 AM, updated 9y ago

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Greetings to all sifu in LYN,

The toilet in master bedroom (Toilet bowl) water not flowing down, most probably clogged in between. Called a plumber and was told the clogged area is underneath my living hall (Manhole that connects to the rectangular box). He went to the back kitchen and open up the rectangular case, pushed in 7 connecting rod (each rod measures about 3 feet) and unable to go further as the plumber said could be full or rocks/cement (these could happened when i redo my bathroom flooring and the contractor could have messed them up). Due to that, the plumber opened the releasing cap (The U shape white PVC pipe) under the toilet bowl to release the water as it was leaking from above. Later on i poured 2 bottles of acid and leave it. Flushed this morning and check the rectangular box, no signs of water sad.gif

Damage: Paid RM 150 for unsolved job.

I called Indah Water Konsortium this morning and was told that any blockage 'before' the Rectangular box is not their concern and i need to look for contractor instead but i heard IWK have the right equipment for this kinda issue. Suction / Vacuum / High Pressure Water could actually help but they denied.

Please help and provide me advice or even IWK freelancer contact that willing to do the job smile.gif


Thanks in advance and God Bless You

This post has been edited by buzdev2: Mar 28 2017, 08:55 AM
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post Mar 28 2017, 02:03 PM

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How long you have been using the toilet bowl before it gives you this problem?
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post Mar 28 2017, 02:11 PM

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something wrong shouldn't pass vp and ccc
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 28 2017, 02:03 PM)
How long you have been using the toilet bowl before it gives you this problem?
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Hardly use the toilet. Maximum once and small business only. Was fine for the past 3 years but suddenly .. jammed!
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kaxe113 @ Mar 28 2017, 02:11 PM)
something wrong  shouldn't pass vp and ccc
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Sorry but i cant understand your terms of VP and CCC.. Please advise further. Thanks
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:43 PM

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Need to use pump.. to pump thru all those cement/rubbish..

my condo last few month clogged... then management use the bomba hose + the tool that will push the water out.. like a pan with stick..

they use the hose aim at the hole + stick in the pan to push to water out... 3 min kautim.. no more stuck..

please dont use vacuum out/in.. as it useless.. it pressure cant do much..
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Mar 28 2017, 03:43 PM)
Need to use pump.. to pump thru all those cement/rubbish..

my condo last few month clogged... then management use the bomba hose + the tool that will push the water out.. like a pan with stick..

they use the hose aim at the hole + stick in the pan to push to water out... 3 min kautim.. no more stuck..

please dont use vacuum out/in.. as it useless.. it pressure cant do much..
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Appreciate your feed back and currently looking for the suitable person to handle the job.
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post Mar 28 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(buzdev2 @ Mar 28 2017, 03:36 PM)
Hardly use the toilet. Maximum once and small business only. Was fine for the past 3 years but suddenly .. jammed!
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You mean only use a few times for the past 3 years?
Then possible cement/concrete block it. Or you have done renovation recently?
If concrete/cement block then a bit hard to clear.
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post Mar 28 2017, 05:13 PM

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How about the drain pipe (when shower), it will flow to the same place too.
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post Mar 28 2017, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 28 2017, 04:26 PM)
You mean only use a few times for the past 3 years?
Then possible cement/concrete block it. Or you have done renovation recently?
If concrete/cement block then a bit hard to clear.
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No reno done. If its cement or concrete then it seems i cant use that toilet anymore unless hack underground.. Money Money Money bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Mar 28 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 28 2017, 05:13 PM)
How about the drain pipe (when shower), it will flow to the same place too.
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Yeah, it flows to the same pipe and nothing clogged there rclxub.gif
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post Mar 28 2017, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(buzdev2 @ Mar 28 2017, 05:32 PM)
Yeah, it flows to the same pipe and nothing clogged there  rclxub.gif
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The sewage from the toilet bow run parallel with the drain pipe, and all end at the "square" box you describe.

Some plumber or Indah water have more powerful tools, can try. There are some 3rd party or part time indah water worker that do these kind of jobs. Maybe you google around.

Another possibility is roots that causes the sewage blockage.
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post Mar 28 2017, 10:06 PM

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It happens to me many years ago after reno, same case, what i do is,called the IWK, said the same thing, not their problem before the metal, so I ask can kou tim and I pay personally. So the staff use their powerful pump and flush system on their truck to clear for me. Paid RM300.

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This is the contact from my phone, Micheal IWK. OI29O5346I. He cleared my blocked sewerage many years ago. No guarantee if he still using the number though.
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post Mar 30 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(voonmingloo @ Mar 28 2017, 10:06 PM)
It happens to me many years ago after reno, same case, what i do is,called the IWK, said the same thing, not their problem before the metal, so I ask can kou tim  and I pay personally. So the staff use their powerful pump and flush system on their truck to clear for me. Paid RM300.
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Good to know about this solution.
The powerful pump and flush system is directly from their truck?
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post Mar 30 2017, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 28 2017, 06:02 PM)
The sewage from the toilet bow run parallel with the  drain pipe, and all end at the "square" box you describe.

Some plumber or Indah water have more powerful tools, can try. There are some 3rd party or part time indah water worker that do these kind of jobs. Maybe you google around.

Another possibility is roots  that causes the sewage blockage.
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Already found 1. They will come this Saturday rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 28 2017, 11:47 PM)
This is the contact from my phone, Micheal IWK. OI29O5346I. He cleared my blocked sewerage many years ago. No guarantee if he still using the number though.
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Thanks for the contact. Will keep in my record for future use icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 30 2017, 09:07 AM)
Good to know about this solution.
The powerful pump and flush system is directly from their truck?
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Yeah, directly from their water truck and very high pressure biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway, i will update all again on Sunday and i hope the discussion will carry on. This will allow us to know more and who to look for in case of similar case occur.
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post Mar 31 2017, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(buzdev2 @ Mar 30 2017, 05:56 PM)
Yeah, directly from their water truck and very high pressure  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

Anyway, i will update all again on Sunday and i hope the discussion will carry on. This will allow us to know more and who to look for in case of similar case occur.
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Good good, do update us here ya. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 3 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 31 2017, 11:53 AM)
Good good, do update us here ya.  rclxms.gif
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IWK came and result = manhole tunnel broken (under my living hall) Cant do much unless hack them to install a replacement pipe. Worst is, cant do bypass vmad.gif vmad.gif

Looks like the toilet will be temporary place to sleep
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post Apr 4 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(buzdev2 @ Apr 3 2017, 04:04 PM)
IWK came and result = manhole tunnel broken (under my living hall) Cant do much unless hack them to install a replacement pipe. Worst is, cant do bypass vmad.gif  vmad.gif

Looks like the toilet will be temporary place to sleep
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This is bad.
If want to repair it, what are the works involve?
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post Apr 4 2017, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 4 2017, 09:06 AM)
This is bad.
If want to repair it, what are the works involve?
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My friend's old neighbour kena this before. Had to dig it up from outdoor until pass wet kitchen where the IWK inspection chamber sits. Replace old soil pipe with PVC. Smelly and messy but it was necessary. I forgot to ask how much it cost...and what was the old pipe made of.

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 4 2017, 03:29 PM)
My friend's old neighbour kena this before. Had to dig it up from outdoor until pass wet kitchen where the IWK inspection chamber sits. Replace old soil pipe with PVC. Smelly and messy but it was necessary. I forgot to ask how much it cost...and what was the old pipe made of.
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Dig? Means hack the concrete slab?
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 4 2017, 03:45 PM)
Dig? Means hack the concrete slab?
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Hack floor from just in front of where the pipe embed into the ground, living room all the way to the back. Just enough to lay a new pipe. Didn't ask if the old one was taken out or permanently not used. They don't touch the floor beams if that's what you mean. The pipe would have cleared below that. It's a messy affair that's all I can say from what I heard.

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 4 2017, 06:57 PM)
Hack floor from just in front of where the pipe embed into the ground, living room all the way to the back. Just enough to lay a new pipe. Didn't ask if the old one was taken out or permanently not used. They don't touch the floor beams if that's what you mean. The pipe would have cleared below that. It's a messy affair that's all I can say from what I heard.
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Can imagine, it is messy for sure.
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I had the same issue. Thought there was clogging involved and called up a few plumbers, only to find out that the main PVC pipes underneath had dislodged.

My plumber then had to dig up the concrete at the backyard (thank god, it was an empty open area) and went all the way down until the beam. He then cut off half of the dislodged PVC pipe, fixed a new one and connected it accordingly to the remaining pipe.

Poured back a new cement concrete and everything was back to normal!
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QUOTE(Refuzed @ Apr 6 2017, 12:30 PM)
I had the same issue. Thought there was clogging involved and called up a few plumbers, only to find out that the main PVC pipes underneath had dislodged.

My plumber then had to dig up the concrete at the backyard (thank god, it was an empty open area) and went all the way down until the beam. He then cut off half of the dislodged PVC pipe, fixed a new one and connected it accordingly to the remaining pipe.

Poured back a new cement concrete and everything was back to normal!
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how much did it cost, and what year did u do it?
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QUOTE(Refuzed @ Apr 6 2017, 12:30 PM)
I had the same issue. Thought there was clogging involved and called up a few plumbers, only to find out that the main PVC pipes underneath had dislodged.

My plumber then had to dig up the concrete at the backyard (thank god, it was an empty open area) and went all the way down until the beam. He then cut off half of the dislodged PVC pipe, fixed a new one and connected it accordingly to the remaining pipe.

Poured back a new cement concrete and everything was back to normal!
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Hey Bro,

Thanks for your valuable feed back. May i know where u from and the plumber that executed the job? May need his services to restore my pipe as well.
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QUOTE(y4ng @ Apr 6 2017, 12:48 PM)
how much did it cost, and what year did u do it?
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Costed me less than RM300 if I'm not mistaken. Much work was invested in the digging part, which I found worth the money. I did it last year.


QUOTE(buzdev2 @ Apr 8 2017, 10:50 AM)
Hey Bro,

Thanks for your valuable feed back. May i know where u from and the plumber that executed the job? May need his services to restore my pipe as well.
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Hey, not a problem. He's from Sungai Buloh area and travels by bike. If you are somewhere nearby, he may not hesitate to drop by your place. Let me know where do you stay.

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QUOTE(Refuzed @ Apr 9 2017, 10:22 PM)
Costed me less than RM300 if I'm not mistaken. Much work was invested in the digging part, which I found worth the money. I did it last year.
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RM 300 for these works? blink.gif That is very very reasonable.
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QUOTE(Refuzed @ Apr 9 2017, 10:22 PM)
Costed me less than RM300 if I'm not mistaken. Much work was invested in the digging part, which I found worth the money. I did it last year.
Hey, not a problem. He's from Sungai Buloh area and travels by bike. If you are somewhere nearby, he may not hesitate to drop by your place. Let me know where do you stay.
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Wow good price! Can give me his number please? Cos i wanna add toilet, so better to make a new pipe!
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QUOTE(Refuzed @ Apr 9 2017, 10:22 PM)
Costed me less than RM300 if I'm not mistaken. Much work was invested in the digging part, which I found worth the money. I did it last year.
Hey, not a problem. He's from Sungai Buloh area and travels by bike. If you are somewhere nearby, he may not hesitate to drop by your place. Let me know where do you stay.
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I am from Rawang and it seems nearby. Please PM his contact detail if convenient. Thanks
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QUOTE(buzdev2 @ Mar 30 2017, 05:53 PM)
Already found 1. They will come this Saturday  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Hi,can u share the contact pls?having the same problem
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Hi guys, can share any IWK private service contact? Thanks
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Hi guys, can share any IWK private service contact? Thanks
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Why you need private service? They do provide services to every household with individual septic tank.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 7 2020, 05:45 PM)
Why you need private service? They do provide services to every household with individual septic tank.
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I think the pipe, connecting my master room to manhole, underneath my house was clogged. It was not covered by IWK and after checking at their website, they do provide service "Clearing private blockage by Water Jettor 3500L Charge RM800.00 per manhole". It is quite expensive and no guarantee can be fixed. Not sure if there are people outside give private service at cheaper rate.
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QUOTE(Thund3rHawk @ Nov 7 2020, 10:43 PM)
I think the pipe, connecting my master room to manhole, underneath my house was clogged. It was not covered by IWK and after checking at their website, they do provide service "Clearing private blockage by Water Jettor 3500L Charge RM800.00 per manhole". It is quite expensive and no guarantee can be fixed. Not sure if there are people outside give private service at cheaper rate.
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I dont think any private contractor will have the machine to clear the blockage. Is at least 8 to10 feet deep with few bends before reaching the manhole.

Is not guarantee because it can be a broken underground sewage pipe and not something thrown in that cause the blockage since you are using it.

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