That is normal trick by developers...
Overdue Defect Notice & Witholding Stakeholder Sum, Sample Letters
Overdue Defect Notice & Witholding Stakeholder Sum, Sample Letters
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Mar 6 2013, 10:31 AM
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That is normal trick by developers...
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Mar 6 2013, 11:24 PM
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It seem that there's more question than answer in this thread.
But I still post my problem/dilemma here and press my luck somebody can enlighten me. I already received a letter for "Delivery of Vacant Possession" dated Dec 17, 2012. Also stated here must VP in 14 days, else after that not liable to any loss or damage. Call the developer to make an appointment, but the developer said that my financier still not settles all outstanding sum. Only settle all can only can collect key. Also mention that must wait call from them to pickup the key only then make appointment. So, the 'Delivery of VP' letter here is already contradict. On Feb 27, 2013 my financier already release all the sum payment. Does this mean that my warranty of 2 month ++ already lapse from the 18 month? First timer here... |
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Mar 7 2013, 04:49 PM
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Hi guys,
Would appreciate some advice on this frustrating situation that I'm facing. Bought a new property, and had a number of defects. Its has been almost 6 months since I reported the defects but the developer still have not completed most of them, despite numerous calls and emails. Apart from from threatening them with an ultimate dateline, and there after I fix the defects and claim it from them, is there other alternatives? I'm concerning that doing this will open up a new can of worms, where they will no longer be responsible for other defects after that, and also that they delay the reimbursement of the claims indefinitely. Will sending official letters to the developer and cc to the housing ministry and other authorities help to keep the developer on their toes? Really appreciate your advise as I have ran out of ideas. I posted this on another topic but no reply |
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Aug 20 2013, 10:11 PM
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I bought a property from SSF developer, and many defects from water leaks, crack walls, under ground pipe leaks. I have also been chasing for the defects to be fixed. Now coming up 24 months and defective leaks have come back. Chasing them at the mo but their attitude now it has been fixed previously and anything else is outside of warranty. What else can I do? The defects have not been permanently fixed due to poor quality methods used and it is reasonable to chase them to rectify permanently.
The SSF staff have really bad attitude once you have paid and bought the property they will ignore your emails and phone calls. When at times they do pickup the phone they will try and wriggle out from their responsibility either by delaying or saying contact their lawyers . This kind of developer really give the Malaysia property industry a really bad name. Are they trying to cheat the customers by building poor quality houses and sell them at luxury prices? This is the worst experience I have ever had buying property and I warn anyone who is considering buying from SSF. One word, DON'T! Any ideas what else can I do? |
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Dec 30 2013, 09:29 PM
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The developer have fixed the defects, but after 3-6 months the water leaking come back again, at the same area. Fixed again, then come back again. Now developer ignore the defects complain, and said the warranty is over. The leaking cost the water bill RM 1300, I claim the developer , but they just ignore, not reply my email , not answer my call etc....
I really angry with this SSF developer, please advice how could I make I complain to housing board, and any suggestion ? Please advice. |
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Nov 19 2014, 11:17 AM
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I did managed to write a letter to lawyer to withhold that final 5%..just before the developer wind up..
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Nov 23 2014, 09:27 AM
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Jan 18 2015, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Mar 7 2007, 05:43 PM) I'm posting this separately coz I feel it deserves a topic of its own. Thanks aaronpang, i'm glad you got some example on letters.. very helpfullAnyway I hope I got it right if anybody is more experienced in this matter can comment and advice I'd really appreciate it! 1) Find out who is your stake holder? You should have a letter from the developer list>>> informing of the common defects found in the above unit. |
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May 14 2015, 07:26 PM
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Is there any formal standard or by-law the developer has to follow or replace/fix? my sister has a new condo recently VP and found out that 50% of the tiles are hollow (as in whole house) and a lot of scratches at the window frame due to workers scrub off the paint.
The problem is that, not 100% (in 1 piece of tiles) is hollow, maybe some at the corner and some tiles are scratch (but only visible when strong light). So, i mean, is there any write out by govt agency that i can use to talk to the developer? Currently they only agree to change certain thing only. Please help. |
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Oct 25 2015, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Mar 8 2007, 12:03 PM) Here is something that I would like to add on. Need help! 1. State which clause under S&P of your house that the developer fail to meet. 2. State the exact date the developer have to complete his defect. 3. Under your IC number put H/P contact number for easier processing. 4. Always keep yourself 1 copy for each letter you send. (with sign acknowledgment of receipt) i just get key for new condo and submite the defect list, developer taker more than 2 month to finish but not all defect satisfy. developer ask to submit 2nd defect and will take another one or 2 month to complete. Issue is i start paid maintenance fees (RM420 per month) start since collect key, but i cannot move in for 3 month or more. Negotiate with developer but they not willing to refund this maintenance fees. what should i do? can give some advise? |
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Nov 16 2015, 11:30 AM
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Nov 30 2015, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Mar 7 2007, 05:43 PM) I'm posting this separately coz I feel it deserves a topic of its own. Anyway I hope I got it right if anybody is more experienced in this matter can comment and advice I'd really appreciate it! 1) Find out who is your stake holder? You should have a letter from the developer informing who your stakeholders are. 2) Write a notice to withhold releasing the 5% stakeholders sum to the developer... I don't warranty this letter to be correct because honestly I've never had to write one of these yet:- A) Sample letter to the stakeholders. <<<Replace Information In Bracket>>> » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 3) Send a copy of this notice together to your stakeholder and developer. Try to send to the stakeholder by registered mail or in person hand deliver it, also bring along extra copies and get the stakeholder lawyers to stamp, date and sign acknowledgment of receipt. It's better if you send it in by hand rather than have our reliable post service "Hilang" such an important document. Then attach a copy to your developer with a cover letter notifying the developer they're not getting any money unless they fix your defects or you will fix it yourself and deduct the repair cost from the stakeholders share. Include a quotation for the cost of repairs when you send it to the developer and CC your stakeholder. You can get a formal quote from your friendly PCK contractor loitering around any new housing area or calling the phone number on banners hung in front of newly renovated homes. Heck I've received some very professional looking quotations even from those chinamen type contractor. Majulah IT! B) Sample notice letter to the developer. <<<Replace Information In Bracket>>> » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « edit: Updated the with notice letter to the developer & minor corrections |
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Dec 16 2015, 04:35 PM
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we just want to buy a comfortable abode using our hard-earned money with loans. but housing developers are the worst blood sucking parasite. i hope their houses will collapse as karma.!!!
about withholding the 5% stakeholder, how long we can withhold it? i was made to understand that sooner or later, that amount will be reimbursed to the developer |
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Jan 20 2016, 02:36 PM
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Does the 5% stakeholder sum hold by the lawyers applies in the built then sell concept? I want to send notice to my developer which is using BTS concept about the 30 days overdue of defect rectification but wondering if there is really any 5% stakeholder sum in the BTS concept because according to my S&P the developer itself shall pay for self-defect rectification after the said 14 days notice and nothing mention about claiming from the stakeholder lawyer.
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May 11 2016, 06:59 PM
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Do take note, witholding stakeholder sum not only apply to your unit but it is applicable to common area too. For common area, suggest you gather majority of the owners to do a witholding so that it will create an impact to the developer to rectify any common area defects which are substantially affecting all the residents.
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Dec 14 2016, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Maylam @ Aug 20 2013, 10:11 PM) I bought a property from SSF developer, and many defects from water leaks, crack walls, under ground pipe leaks. I have also been chasing for the defects to be fixed. Now coming up 24 months and defective leaks have come back. Chasing them at the mo but their attitude now it has been fixed previously and anything else is outside of warranty. What else can I do? The defects have not been permanently fixed due to poor quality methods used and it is reasonable to chase them to rectify permanently. If the defects are really bad, refuse to accept VP.The SSF staff have really bad attitude once you have paid and bought the property they will ignore your emails and phone calls. When at times they do pickup the phone they will try and wriggle out from their responsibility either by delaying or saying contact their lawyers . This kind of developer really give the Malaysia property industry a really bad name. Are they trying to cheat the customers by building poor quality houses and sell them at luxury prices? This is the worst experience I have ever had buying property and I warn anyone who is considering buying from SSF. One word, DON'T! Any ideas what else can I do? Write in to withold the 5%. Keep all correspondence email/letter. Go to consumer tribunal, pay 10 bucks (or similar amount) and file a claim. |
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Feb 24 2017, 12:37 PM
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here are some good sources of info:
http://www.hba.org.my/faq/list.htm http://www.hba.org.my/articles/buyer_watch...ag/2004/new.htm http://www.hba.org.my/faq/list.htm#Defects liability period |
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Mar 1 2017, 09:47 AM
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I have following queries.
My condo handed over by developer a year ago and it is still within the defect liability period. When raining season, the car parks is flooded with water and the JMB which consists of resident members have talk to developer on this numerous time. Yet, the developer is like besok lusa and keep saying will look into it and never come back with an action/ rectify the root cause of the flooding issue at car parks. Need valuable advice on what can be done against the developer? Seek external party to rectify it and claim the cost against developer? or....? |
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Oct 11 2017, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(yeofang @ Oct 25 2015, 01:18 AM) Need help! I have this, same problem. Mine has been 1 year+. i just get key for new condo and submite the defect list, developer taker more than 2 month to finish but not all defect satisfy. developer ask to submit 2nd defect and will take another one or 2 month to complete. Issue is i start paid maintenance fees (RM420 per month) start since collect key, but i cannot move in for 3 month or more. Negotiate with developer but they not willing to refund this maintenance fees. what should i do? can give some advise? The defect have not been settled. But now got a call from the management that they will file the case to tribunal as i dint pay the monthly maintenance fee. Am i wrong not to pay when my house defect has not been rectified? |
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Oct 12 2017, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jan 7 2011, 02:53 PM) Hello, the developer will have to repair the damage done during the defect rectification. They are bound by the clause whereby the 5% cannot be released until all defects are rectified. The lawyers holding the money is the S&P lawyers (who are acting for the developers), please do not go to the wrong lawyers.. Our developer (IJM) asked us to collect the key PRIOR to joint inspection and submission of defect list. As the warranty period has expired, we will just have 'one round' then they will have 30 days to address the issues we list up again.The warranty period is 2 years and any more than that, you will need to show proof that the damage was caused by the developers themselves and not by tenants doing renovation. The law is a bit susah here (think Highland Towers) as the process can be very lengthy, so its best to spot the defects immediately but some are not so evident like properties built on landfill and mining pools or near slopes. Also not easy to claim the 5% from the lawyers as they are working for the developers (cos most developers pay the legal fees for you, I would be suspicious) so its better to ask them to repair it themselves and not allow the 5% to be released, a cc to the Bar council and the Housing Ministry, complaints department is a better bet. Also before you collect the key, make sure that the developer has a checklist or you can do one yourself and if not all is 100% marked off, then do not accept the key and ask them to rectify the problem. Any delays by the developers and they will have to pay a late delivery penalty, so you need to remind them..usually first time developers. The more experienced ones will have a proper checklist and a site clerk/supervisor to attend to you and not just a foreigner passing you the keys. Reminder : Please change the front door lock or get a grill installed before you start any renovations/installation of lights and fan as the guy fixing the locks can never be trusted. However, they did accept a prior list of defects from our surveyors who inspected the property BEFORE we signed the SPA. The developer did start to work on the issues, although they are now delayed for 4 weeks. Unfortunately, we accepted the key thinking that the defects identified previously had been address. Fingers crossed that they do a good job this time so that there are minimal issues when we do the joint inspection. One last point, the developer only allocates 1 hour for the joint inspection and said it was basically just for them to help us with the technical terms in submitting the defect rectification list. So, we should actually do a thorough inspection again (including ponding) ourselves, then arrange the joint inspection. |
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