Would like to ask about this company, especially the IT/ Biz Management Associate post.

1. Does it involve SAP implementations?
2. How's the environment like over there?
3. How's the pay like over there (for fresh graduate)?

Those working there please share over here...

This post has been edited by pekoejazzy: Mar 7 2007, 05:36 PM

If you are being offered a position as a management associate or IT specialist in the business solution department, then the answer would be:
1. No
2. Young team. Can learn a lot of things with the right attitude.
3. Standard pay for fresh graduates. nothing spectacular.

when will you be joining?

hi ahming, are you working in DKSH CSSC now? Wat position you are doing now?

based in pj or tpm?

based in tpm tat one

well... i just quit the company early this month...
i used to work as an IT Specialist over there.
DKSH CSSC is based in in TPM

Y u left the company? How long u join?
May i know wat position u worked last time?
How was the working environment there?

I got a better opportunity elsewhere...
I was there for less than 1 year..
It depends on which department u r working in...
Mind sharing what position u were offered and in which department u will be working in?

Nope, I'm not working there. But previously I hv applied their job vacancy.
Still waiting for their reply. Btw, I'm graduated degree in IT.

Good luck.
All the best

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This post has been edited by kangalert: Jul 8 2007, 10:23 PM

Luckily i managed to "cabut" just in time.....

They have an SAP application team there doing SAP system rollout for different countries. Good opportunity for traveling if you are in their SAP Team.

Well... It all boils down to which department u r working for... some get to leave work on time while others have to slog it out till the middle of the night because of poor project management by the boss.

It sounds scary....

that only happened to one particular department and this situation only happens once a year. haha. so u guys can breath easily.

It is still better than having to work for a chinaman company which requires you to work till late at night for most of the year

just get invitation for interview on this 12/6 for IT Management Associates...

based on previous post seem like not very encouraging to work there. shud i try ?

Not all departments are like that. It only applies for one particular department.
You can give it a try.
Good luck.

may I know what dept is that? tq

i have no idea abt that. can u recommend the best 1?

This post has been edited by wenjie: Jun 8 2007, 03:04 PM

I wouldnt know as i have never worked in all the departments.
Anyway you dont get to choose the departments.

ok ... so any tips for interview?

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Added on June 13, 2007, 1:21 amwent there yesterday. being interviewed by 3 guys. kinda nervous. but the interviewer are good enough.

and last impression b4 leaving TPM ... zomg their parking RM4.50!

This post has been edited by wenjie: Jun 13 2007, 01:21 AM

Sorry man... was occupied these few days.
So how did it go? Good? Who interviewed you btw?
Next time when you go to Ent 4 in TPM, dont park at the underground car park, unles you are lazy to walk. haha
U could park at the big open air car park after turning right at the roundabout. But its kinda far la.. hehe

What questions they asked u during the interview? Mind to share?

hi all,

i was attached wif DKSH MS previously. Lucky to have worked with CSSC team on the SAP 4.7 roll out. Gained a lot dere (of coz it was hard work)

All i can say is DKSH is a very good training ground (to gain experience, to learn new things, and of coz to train ur endurance). But it all pays for your future.

That's why we (me n ahming) got a better offer and able to cabut with better pay.



p/s: take the offer and work for a couple of years der. U'll be surprised on the opportunities offered.

haiz..i dont think that i get the job. got 3 men interview me, 1 is guy name Tony, 1 is ang moo lang i forgot the name and another 1 is chinese, i forgot the name too.

i juz follow the direction to visitor car park that brought me to the basement and there u are...RM4.50

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Added on June 15, 2007, 5:05 pmic... hopefully i get it btw where are both of u now? how is the salary increament in DKSH?

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Added on June 15, 2007, 5:13 pm1st they ask u to read through a set of questions for 5 minutes then present ur answer 1 by 1.

oh..before that u have to fill a form and got 1 column that u need to choose 3 different area that suite ur interest.

back to the interview session, they will ask u why y u choose those area. most of the question is about what u study before but they didnt test ur skill. so that's all...just talking...

This post has been edited by wenjie: Jun 15 2007, 05:13 PM

Wenjie, keep ur fingers crossed.
Ang moh interviewed u? was it Donobet?

wow.. surprise DKSH CSSC so famous here..

i work 7 days a week , at least 10 hours a day. My longest duration of working hour was 8.30am -> 3am and my shortest duration is 8.30am -> 6pm... normally i left at 7pm lo..

doing SAP there

That is why this thread is "famous"...
Everybody "promoting" the working hours...haha

ya just checked the handout they gave me, the angmoo is Donabet Donikian, and another one is Lau Kah Chin.

the working hours soooo long aa?

its good if got chance to work in SAP environment,,
i working in another ERP company which is Axapta

If u work under Lau Kah Chin then you will have the privilage of being one of the first to arrive and one of the last to go back in CSSC....

i do not understand , lau kah chin is BS, mr donabet is SAP... why both from diff dept interview 1 ? wen jie u applying what position 1 ?

ahming , wah.. u so familiar the stuff here... u working here ka ?

walao... that kind of priviledge...

that is kind of management trainee program. if successful i will be rotated between those dept i think

rotating? no such thing as rotating woh...

once u're there, you ARE there. hard to move lo.

Update :: that is possible. just asked colleague. You might be given chance to try all depts, to see which field u have potential. u m/f ? haha

This post has been edited by chezzball: Jun 19 2007, 10:23 AM

ic... and i am a m

I think chezzball is correct. No rotation. Not like other companies. The period for MA is only six months. So they cant shift you to every single department.

The reason for the 3 managers to interview one candidate at one time probably is to judge this candidate is more suitable for which department. I think this is the 1st time they are interviewing people like this.

Chezzball, i used to have the "privilage" that i mentioned earlier. So glad to be gone.

Anyone working in DKSH in this forum? they hiring new ppl

what u mean, u r asking wheather dksh hiring any new ppl currently or informing?

no need park in the basement..jst park beside the road..FOC!!!haha

btw,i went interview at DKSH too..

lol, looks like we gonna haf many new colleagues coming in..looking fwd to meet u all in dksh...

I saw advert. How many ppl the company is hiring? many many?

as many as u can c from d advert...

ohh i am interested in the IT specialist.. have they hired ppl already? how many vacancy for this post? just one?

Wow I am surprised that there are many people interested to join DKSH CSSC when I am trying to leave this shitty place. hahahah

Really very shitty?? How come what make you wana leave? is this company bad? Apart from a lot of work..

I have an interview for QA Specialist..
wonder y they shortlisted me when i have no prior experience in the area.. haha..
IT grad though..

No reply? the company hire new ppl already?

how shitty is the place since i'm interested though

every place also got shit to clean one

Serious..?? who shit every where..? Ex staff?

How to apply? Can't see an email address to deposit resume from their website...

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This post has been edited by ahbeng101: Nov 1 2007, 08:28 AM

Working in DKSH not bad also...
network/sap or etc ...
pay might not be super good, but not bad as well lor....

Look for amanda & Eva...they can help u...wuahahaha

Wakakaka...amanda and Eva. Yes please look for them

wow really that bad. So far only hear from one person that is bad. Any others out there complaining as well? This company reputation really going down.

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Added on August 16, 2007, 8:37 amno more news abt this company?

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Added on August 17, 2007, 1:50 pmanybody else? complaining abt this company or suggestions?

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Added on August 20, 2007, 8:58 amHello...no news abt this company already?

This post has been edited by Embrangle: Aug 20 2007, 08:58 AM

Hi all,

I am new here. I've attended an interview for QA Specialist (with Christine Lim) @ DKSH recently. Am wondering how's the working environment, workload+hours, culture and conditions over there? It seems like its a 'shitty' place according to the previous posts here. But am wondering if this QA specialist is under the Biz Solutions as well? Pls enlighten me whether I should give it a try, if were to be given an opportunity. Look forward to replies soon.

Thx

From the outside, DKSH might seem to be a big MNC. But when you are inside you will find that it is nothing but a Chinaman company. But think of it this way, if you do get hired, work for them for awhile, gain some experience before getting your @$$ out of the company.

from my gf friend who works at dksh tpm, she said that the mgmt sucks, during interview promised to send for training but until now no training, no bonus and lots of empty promise,she wants to leave already.

Hi all,

Thx for the replies.
I'd like to know more about the working environment, ppl & workloads of the QA Dept. Anyone could enlighten me?

Many thx

Will they hired fresh grad with NO experience in SAP or other stuff ?

Btw, i am Networking student ( Comp Sci )

Hi Newbie,

from my earlier post you should know that I am still in DKSH. I am not familiar with the QA team but my understanding is that it is a new team that is being set up under Christine. They are under the SAP team if I am not wrong. There are a couple of questions I believe you should ask during the interview to evaluate the offer:-

1) Will training be provided? If yes what type of training? If they say on the job it means bull shit and they won't provide you with anything.
2) Are there opportunities to travel? Some teams in DKSH travel a lot for e.g. the Roll-Out team. So if they offer you the opportunity you have to ask them how much travel?
3) The most important question is what is the QA department's 5 year plans or goals and what is the your career progression plan?

I mean it all depends on what you want. I mean if you are a fresh grad and it is difficult for u take get a job then DKSH is not a bad place. However if you feel that you are capable there are plenty of companies that can offer you better. I mean if you have other offers or you have a current job I would advise you to stick to the status quo the reason is because I feel that you will waste your time here and not learn as much as other companies. I have to apologize to the DKSH people for being blunt.

Hi ahbeng101,

Thanks for your informative reply and insights of the company. Will consider all these factors.

Thx again.

How come the employee dont like this company? I heard many guai lo in the company. Every day can see them walking pass by. Then most ppl work with laptops given to them. Isnt that nice?

Most of the guai los are either top management or are in the consulting team. Therefore they have a different pay structure than the rest. Which sane guai lo would work for peanuts in Malaysia?

If you think you are MNC material, you would not stay long in this company. You can get benefits better than you can get in here. As for laptops, they are cheap to acquire nowadays. So i dont think its a big deal. Even your typical chinaman companies can afford them nowadays.

Embrangle do you think you have a inferiority complex? I don't know why but I get a sense that many Malaysians have a tendency to think the Ang Mohs are smarter than us? But the truth there is no difference apart from skin color but at the same time their pay is 2 to 3 times more than us. It is just pure discrimination.

What is so great about a company allocating laptops to their employees? You are giving me a sense that you are a "frog in a well"......I mean with no disrespect.

Nothing great with those, i just mention it. Cause not many company can do that. I dont know anything good about this company but sure seen much worse company. Just got make sure hopping in the right direction not for the sake for following what other ppl do and end up worse.

yay i love the T60 ~

guai lo saja.. no guai poh.. nothing to see..

shud hire more lenglui looo :-"

wah quite many people seems not to be very happy with this company here wor, is it that bad ar?

hey newbie did u join cssc yet???

yeah i've worked in there before but i've left...
shocked to read all the comments on this posting

really shocked???
or syiokkkkkk???!!!!!!

Hey they hiring ppl again one whole page in the star news paper. all it engineer in sap and net.. guess.. many ppl leaving again..

Who want to join this kind of company....some more they send ppl away to do project for months.. never come back.. thinks that is what you expect from mnc.

seems like they have been hiring quite often as you mentioned, really so many people leaving huh
but to list them as the worst outside there? there are still companies, MNC out there which is much more catastrophic than here

at least from what I have seen, the equipment and working tools (PC, table, chair, etc etc..) are all in the top class standard guess that might compensate something? not sure.........

some companies out there trust me have much worst work load and working environment as compared to here, to be honest I dislike the workload distribution here when I was here, but when you finally open up your view to the real world outside you'll noticed that there are some companies which is even worst to work in and with........

work along until you cannot bear with it anymore, then find another place to fight on......

just my 2-cents...

hahaha
everything got bad and good.
cscc gives u good amount of AL tho is fixed for live
give you fruits some more to eat.
but the fruits first come first serve lor.

and last but not list.
good ppl like amanda and eva
bahahhah

horr.. u must be amanda yap or eva chan dy....
u do networking or basis ? 'maintenance;

hahahaa
dont know

i work for DKSH Group.

They are amongst the better mnc out there. For every critic, there will also be equal number who had/have/is gaining from the employment there. There are always 2 sides to a coin. Take every thing with a big pinch of salt but new & inexperience recruits ought to be exposed to all kind of working environ; good, bad, worst. Thats all part of a career charting exercise. We gain some , we lose some.

Some of the kwai lohs are management trainees like many of you. They earn just about the same pay as the local management trainees They share room (yes, room NOT house or condo) in even Old Klang Rd where the rental is cheaper. Many are used to eating chup-fun just like us. Yes, they too b**** about the cost of living, made worst by being far away from their home (mostly europe).

Some of the kwai loh middle managers also do not have packages that we think they have...they are all here to learn the business the Asian way. Dont forget that DKSH is a growing company esp. in Asia. Them setting up an HQ in TPM is testimonial of them staying & investing here. The choice to work there is yours to make...look around and decide.

Opportunity many a time do not knock twice.

Keith Khoo

hahaha.
Keith Khoo.
that is a very positive way of thinking
Keep it up.

thanks maintenance...i stay positive so that i can always see the bright side of things...negativiity will pull me into the abyss and made me a worthless cacing (cacing burger not withstanding

btw...what kinda nick is 'maintenance'?

k

Hi guys,

I used to work for CSSC too, I joined CSSC from another MNC and I have no doubts that the pantry in CSSC is one of the best in terms of the fruits and beverages that they provide. During my time at the company I wish I could be as positive as you guys to use what is offered @ the pantry, the AL and nice people to benchmark. I mean if I am CSSC managment you are the type of people I am definitely looking for - people who are contented.

Keith I admire your passion for the company and I do agree with you that this is part of your career experience. But I just have one question for you -> how many MNCs have you worked for to justify your claim that DKSH is one of the better MNCs out there? If that is the case during my tenure at the company I wouldn't see people leaving every other week.

With regards to your claim that the so called kwai lohs MAs earn the same local pay as you guys -> I don't know where you got your sources from but I can guarantee you that you are wrong. Come on guys this is a no brainer.

If you really think that DKSH is using CSSC Malaysia as a springboard to grow in Asia -> I have to say that you are right to a certain extent but there is also a hidden reason -> find it out yourself it is quite evident.

Hey guys I am not hear to criticise CSSC -> I mean what for I am now in another company and I have learned a lot over there too. But I am just surprised that there are so many frogs in a well..........I mean with no disrespect.

But anyways good luck in your career guys.......

hahaha
everything got bad and good.
cscc gives u good amount of AL tho is fixed for live
give you fruits some more to eat.
but the fruits first come first serve lor.

and last but not list.
good ppl like amanda and eva
bahahhah

This post has been edited by AmericanIdol7: Oct 25 2007, 01:03 AM

yo american idol.


i might be quite blur and ignorant
care to share???

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Added on November 1, 2007, 4:16 pmHey AhBeng,
Where is your super post about the management team?
What make u delete the post?
You got your facts wrong or what?




This post has been edited by maintenance: Nov 1 2007, 04:16 PM

Wah quiet already? How is the bonus like?
What is the difference between Management Associate and other positions?
Is it a good opportunity?

Well,

This is one company can promise you bintang and bulan.
when tiba masanya, habluk pob talak.
Some department are good to work with some deparment is just crap.
I can say this is one of the worst "quai lo" "ang moh cow" "orang putih" company.
I think they are better known as "cow" instead or ang moh"
The whites is the company is getting whitter and the blacks are getting blacker. Only some not all. Some blacks there are with my highest respect, some blacks there i would say "go see mirror and see your self getting blacker...But the problem is even i would to give them a set of polish, they will decide to polish their bosses instead of them self.
Again i stress only certain not all. So dont take my statement as a raciscm factor.

Some white boss dont even know stuff. Go for meeting, instead of boss explaining whats gonna happen. The stupid boss, call some other ppl to explain. Here how it goes, "you were in the earlier meeting rite?, can you explain how are we gonna implemnt this". I think to my self, you are the boss, you were in the meeting, why you need some one else to explain. Unless the boss is stupid.

is this the one located in tpm?
besided what you mentioned, would you recommend applying for a job there?

sure why not.
If u reach a Team Leader Position or Incident Manager.
U can drive a S40 already. Volvo Sial... From Kancil to Volvo is a very big jump.
Just make sure you know how say all this kinda things when you are in the office.
"please change to P1 and make sure you work on it"
'guys its P1, come on come on work on it"
"basically this is P1, why so slow respond"
"I already discuss, please change to P1"

Also remember, make sure you know how to white the white's backside"

like that also i want to come Incident Manager lor.
all i do is chase ppl to change ticket to P1
suck up boss back side.
polish them and make it whiter.
Just for the S40....
bhaahahhaha

waaaa.. donno that cssc is famous here.
I thought only famous at IBM (IBM engineer should understand this )

i got an offer for IT consultant/specialist/associates.. can anyone enlighten me what is the job scopes and working hours like? i heard a lotsa ppl complaining bout the long hours work.. TQ!

IBM's big customer ah ?

aiyah.. all companies also got extra long hours de lah... all company same de

DKSH thinks IBM are shark.....
Then never respected IBM
always talk bad about IBM.

I even heard the big boss of DKSH is leaving.
Because a big blunder in Thailand....
no face to put anywhere leave the company.
or is he sick of how the people run the organization

aihhhh....
what to do...
not only that.
my frend working there also thinks the manager only know how to wipe the white ass manager.
my friend now wonders why the previous helpdesk left..
now my freind thinks she is doing work blindly macam lalang.
white guy says do this, black guys say do this.
white guy says do that, black guy says that.

DKSH BAD.....

Holla folks!

I hear the Vice President of DKSH CSSC, Mr DIETER SCHLOSSER was asked to resign! (yeap FIRED)

Not surprise!! considering that during his nearly 4 year tenure at CSSC there was a high staff turnover and lots of politics took place (in the name of race and discrimination). I mean only in his time are such actions such as hiring friends (who already are making money) can take up secondary employment at CSSC, without the means of either a relevant qualification nor the required experience. In other words even if you are a half-baked BUT you are his (good) friend and if you are looking for employment you are more than welcome at DKSH CSSC

Apparently he's announced that he's going off to SINGAPORE NOW, if he can't even make CSSC a success and for longer than his current tenure I wonder how's he ever going to make it in SINGAPORE

Nevertheless I wish him all the VERY best where ever he goes (especially in SINGAPORE) and hope he does not gets asked to resign again

From my end all I can say is this ...

Hi Devils' Advocate, are u sure u heard that? seems that u know him quite well:hmm:

this is the big boss that got fired lar
I only heard that he is leaving

Ooooohh ..... Ms Matahari (in the makin') I see

Yeah ... well enough to see his white 'ass'. Rumours are flying round KL about his 'resignation' and of course if you were one of his so called 'victims' (y'know the ones who don't go by his code of conduct) then who wouldn't be (more than) happy to hear (good) news!

Psstt ... come a lil' closer coz I've got s'thing to tell yah ... what goes round comes round