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TSFatalExe
post Mar 22 2017, 08:19 PM, updated 9y ago

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With reference to my previous topic 3 years ago:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3782436&hl=

My family has been getting harassed by this guy in our neighborhood. Car tires has been getting punctured frequently and multiple deep scratches on my car. The last time he did it, the CCTV evidence apparently was not enough and did not show his face, which is why police couldn't do anything. This time, I have finally managed to capture his face and caught in the act...!

The sad part is that this guy is now the President of the resident association in the housing area I live in. Due to the fact that I'm living in a guarded community, I see no reason to pay the "security fees" anymore. They even threaten to completely stop my family from entering our house if we don't pay. What joke is this? Scratch my cars and demand protection money? It's clearly a voluntary payment fee as the guard house was set up a year after I lived in this neighbourhood.

Any /k expert in law can tell me what can I expect from the police this time and will he be punished? Is there a website to check on whether my resident association is legal or not? When we bought the house it was classified as guarded but not gated. Since then they added boom gates and auto gates. I'm living in MPSJ area (Puchong) btw.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:22 PM

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just report police and get this guy a punishment. Fuck if he does that to my car I will fucking burn his house
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:28 PM

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you have to lodge police report as reference if this might involve court case later. you can also lodge report to local city council where you live. they have the authority to take action. there is a t&c by city council where people cannot be forced to pay security fees. but they are encourage to do so for their own good too.

btw, you can check for registration of society here --> ROS
TSFatalExe
post Mar 22 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Mar 22 2017, 08:22 PM)
just report police and get this guy a punishment. Fuck if he does that to my car I will fucking burn his house
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Will do tomorrow, the guy even had the balls to send me an email demanding payment with words like "we cannot guarantee your safety and will not be responsible if anything happens to you or your family"...

I just hope the police and the investigating sergeant will layan my case this time. I don't think I'll be joining their association anymore, I couldn't be damned if I have to go through the boom gates and register every time.

Btw, security fees are RM150 per month and their annual statement says that they have over rm70k in cash surplus. Surely some law prevents such big amount of money to be in a resident association??!
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:31 PM

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fuck those security shit. Even if its gated when something happens to your house or family they will be responsible? My ass

Luckily I stay in a taman without all this shit. Even not locking my gates everyday
TSFatalExe
post Mar 22 2017, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(soultaker @ Mar 22 2017, 08:28 PM)
you have to lodge police report as reference if this might involve court case later. you can also lodge report to local city council where you live. they have the authority to take action. there is a t&c by city council where people cannot be forced to pay security fees. but they are encourage to do so for their own good too.

btw, you can check for registration of society here --> ROS
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Yea, I don't think I'll be paying anymore. I have to register at the guardhouse every time I wanna enter the residence though, since they will deactivate my access card (the access card and auto gate were actually separate payment of RM650 per household...)

Not sure if they can do that legally if I paid for the construction of the auto gate separately...

QUOTE(alextan99 @ Mar 22 2017, 08:31 PM)
fuck those security shit. Even if its gated when something happens to your house or family they will be responsible? My ass

Luckily I stay in a taman without all this shit. Even not locking my gates everyday
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Yes exactly. It's pitiful to see emails and notices with threatening words when all they should have done is just send official notice professionally. Really pissed off by this guy.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:41 PM

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Wow.. Why to such extent? Did you do something to him? My area here nothing wrong also man.. People pay or dont pay also they dont care. Lol. But anything happen to ur house if u dont pay they say will not entertain la.. That one im not so sure.. Cos its like RM50 here every month. You pay Rm150 is a frigging killer man. Waste of money. 70k surplus so little? They make damn a lot of money man. You count how manyhouses in your gated community and multiply by 150. Lol. If got 30 houses also how many hundred thousands there already.. Lol. And my area here easily about 100 houses. Lol.

But sorry, i dont know anyone who knows these stuff. xD heh xD
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Mar 22 2017, 08:41 PM)
Wow.. Why to such extent? Did you do something to him? My area here nothing wrong also man.. People pay or dont pay also they dont care. Lol. But anything happen to ur house if u dont pay they say will not entertain la.. That one im not so sure.. Cos its like RM50 here every month. You pay Rm150 is a frigging killer man. Waste of money. 70k surplus so little? They make damn a lot of money man. You count how manyhouses in your gated community and multiply by 150. Lol. If got 30 houses also how many hundred thousands there already.. Lol. And my area here easily about 100 houses. Lol.

But sorry, i dont know anyone who knows these stuff. xD heh xD
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The only interaction with him was when I first moved in to this neighbourhood 5-6 years ago. The guy was trying to plant a tree in front of my house and ask me for permission to use my land with advice from his "feng shui" master which said our house is blocking their "feng shui" with negative energy. Needless to say I told him to plant in front of his own house because he's crazy.

Really shocked that he is now the President.... Guess he's having a power trip and trying to revenge? I really wonder what can they do to force me to pay. Destroy my car some more and burn my house?
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post Mar 22 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Mar 22 2017, 08:48 PM)
The only interaction with him was when I first moved in to this neighbourhood 5-6 years ago. The guy was trying to plant a tree in front of my house and ask me for permission to use my land with advice from his "feng shui" master which said our house is blocking their "feng shui" with negative energy. Needless to say I told him to plant in front of his own house because he's crazy.

Really shocked that he is now the President.... Guess he's having a power trip and trying to revenge? I really wonder what can they do to force me to pay. Destroy my car some more and burn my house?
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Ask neighbours when is resident meeting.
Collect opinion and find out residence sentiment.
If in you favour, plan your tactic.

How to vote new President
How to get resident to sign petition to oust guard service
Find security company to supply guard - you have a plan
How to safe guard residence association fund 70k big pile
How to file police report to endict the fellow.

When you act, must swift blow take out your enemy.
If he survive as President then you will have hard time.
Puchong sadly not human live.
TSFatalExe
post Mar 22 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(KoChun @ Mar 22 2017, 09:03 PM)
Ask neighbours when is resident meeting.
Collect opinion and find out residence sentiment.
If in you favour, plan your tactic.

How to vote new President
How to get resident to sign petition to oust guard service
Find security company to supply guard - you have a plan
How to safe guard residence association fund 70k big pile
How to file police report to endict the fellow.

When you act, must swift blow take out your enemy.
If he survive as President then you will have hard time.
Puchong sadly not human live.
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately this guy is actually quite popular among the committee members and neighbours... he always like to use our residence funds to give neighbours who volunteer to do work like decorating the garden with "complimentary token of appreciation, 1 year security fee payment waived with no cost". We can't object since the committee does the voting and people here don't feel anything wrong with that.

Only thing left to do is hope police will take action or I'll post his face with video evidence scratching my car in the residence FB page.
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post Mar 22 2017, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Mar 22 2017, 09:25 PM)
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately this guy is actually quite popular among the committee members and neighbours... he always like to use our residence funds to give neighbours who volunteer to do work like decorating the garden with "complimentary token of appreciation, 1 year security fee payment waived with no cost". We can't object since the committee does the voting and people here don't feel anything wrong with that.

Only thing left to do is hope police will take action or I'll post his face with video evidence scratching my car in the residence FB page.
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Then you place yourself at risk, he use guard and association to target you even more.
Why risk this. No need.

Residence is around 50+. Easy to survey.
Gather more backing first. But you must be tactful.

In the mean time, just plant some vege in front of your house, just like him
Let him ravage the plant, waste his time too and deflect from your car.

When he ravage your garden, you get more evidence

Then when you have backing = can petition
2x evidence = file police report

If police no action = can FB and report to newspaper.

Again, when you strike, must be effective = sure win for you.

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post Mar 22 2017, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Mar 22 2017, 08:48 PM)
The only interaction with him was when I first moved in to this neighbourhood 5-6 years ago. The guy was trying to plant a tree in front of my house and ask me for permission to use my land with advice from his "feng shui" master which said our house is blocking their "feng shui" with negative energy. Needless to say I told him to plant in front of his own house because he's crazy.

Really shocked that he is now the President.... Guess he's having a power trip and trying to revenge? I really wonder what can they do to force me to pay. Destroy my car some more and burn my house?
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Wow.. Just because of that.. Then maybe you try go plant cat shit at his house and say your feng shui master says his house got more negative energy. LOL. Jk. haha. If you got CCTV maybe time to upgrade to HD. So can see his face and zoom in to his face kaokao. lol And since he's president now, you cant do much.. Cant park your car inside the house? Or u have a few cars? Because of that also want to revenge? Lol. To the extent that he is president now.. This guy is something. lol hahaha
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post Mar 22 2017, 11:33 PM

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go hire ppl la

RM100 , throw stone at their car

go find bangla give them money and finish off their car

and why dont post cctv footage here? do update
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post Mar 23 2017, 04:29 PM

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i don't like ppl who don't pay their security fees but anyway, just check ROS if the RA is registered.

as much as it pisses them off that you are freeloading on their 'security', they can't criminally intimidate you.

just file a police report, and complain to MPSJ as well as RA complaints are also under them.
in such case where we know the RA has a lot of spare funds, usually we try to band a majority of residents together to petition to reduce the charges temporarily until when needed again or amend the constitution to lower the max ceiling or approval etc.

This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Mar 23 2017, 04:30 PM
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post Mar 23 2017, 08:08 PM

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I say this- low class ppl are just that...like pack animals!
In your circumstances you have 2 choices : move or realized this man weak point. He is superstitious & a bully. He knew how to buy heart of ppl. These ppl sadly are not able to see thru him as well. As such u will not be getting their supports coz you didn't benefits them & that Bully did but of course not his own money!!
I get ie pay someone to gently harrass him BUT at same time i shall innocently spread news of getting a "bomoh" to venge those who bad u. As such make sure the ceremony is dramatic/theatrical enough for all to notice especially that bully! He shall go to bed very worried.
I know it sounds stupid but do it like u mean it. Make sure u spread the news that this bomoh (can be just a friend 😂) is super powerful & u invested thousands for this!!! Build the story so its super serious & true!!

His weakness is your weapon!
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post Mar 23 2017, 08:10 PM

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U dont want to waste time thru police /lawyers. Too small an incidence and i know they couldn't care as well.
Very likely he could get the small minded police with his charming nature too.
I feel for u!
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U dont want to waste time thru police /lawyers. Too small an incidence and i know they couldn't care as well.
Very likely he could get the small minded police with his charming nature too.
I feel for u!
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post Mar 23 2017, 08:14 PM

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Go to area Government ministry.
TSFatalExe
post Mar 24 2017, 10:27 AM

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Update: made police report, handed over the CCTV evidence and they will summon him to record his statements. Will see how it goes...
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post Mar 24 2017, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Mar 24 2017, 10:27 AM)
Update: made police report, handed over the CCTV evidence and they will summon him to record his statements. Will see how it goes...
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you also can seek help from your territory's YB, Hanna Yeoh? visit her during service hour open hour or call if emergency

too many this kind 'good face in front of mass public but black ill heart deep inside" ppl walking around, especially educated one (really unbelievable, blue color section got less this kind of ppl as they are more emotion straight forward, don like juz don like u simple like that no doing things secretly)

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