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post Mar 13 2017, 11:23 AM, updated 9y ago

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The proposed alignment features 23 stations running along a 600.3km route.

The new line is projected to connect passengers from Wakaf Bharu in Kelantan and Gombak in Kuala Lumpur in about 4 hours.

Is TOD (Transport Oriented Development) between cities and Greater KL the new trend in property investment?

Video 02:50 - TOD plan in Kota Bahru, Kuala Terengganu and Kuantan



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post Mar 13 2017, 11:40 AM

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BENTONG.......haha,......
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post Mar 13 2017, 11:41 AM

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GOMBAK which area?
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 13 2017, 11:41 AM)
GOMBAK which area?
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I think is existing Gombak LR station.....will be eventually developed into one stop terminal like Tasik Selatan station.

Anyone can confirm this,
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post Mar 13 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Mar 13 2017, 11:49 AM)
I think is existing Gombak LR station.....will be eventually developed into one stop terminal like Tasik Selatan station.

Anyone can confirm this,
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Hmm I heard that too..

And from the integrated terminal, another rail connection straight to port klang hmm.gif
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Due to land acquisition problems, the phase from gombak to port klang will be built later on. Hope that this super overpriced corrupt project will discount the segment to port klang or they may double charge later on.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Mar 13 2017, 11:49 AM)
I think is existing Gombak LR station.....will be eventually developed into one stop terminal like Tasik Selatan station.

Anyone can confirm this,
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Better route to KTM Batu Caves..easier for them to integrate / exchange..

But if develop at LRT gombak station, for sure melawati / KL east & etc prop price may give a much bigger impact..
And congested like TBS blink.gif
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post Mar 13 2017, 02:28 PM

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Based on the draft, the ITT Gombak (Integrated Transport Terminal) located just beside Putra LRT Gombak station.


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QUOTE(propusers @ Mar 13 2017, 02:28 PM)
Based on the draft, the ITT Gombak (Integrated Transport Terminal) located just beside Putra LRT Gombak station.
ITT Gombak

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Nice, and lastly..EC prop will be overpriced..with less employment rate.. sad.gif
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On properties near double track stations from ipoh to seremban, how much price has appreciated solely from double track operation?


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QUOTE(propusers @ Mar 13 2017, 02:28 PM)
Based on the draft, the ITT Gombak (Integrated Transport Terminal) located just beside Putra LRT Gombak station.
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Oh thanks for the info..

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Mar 13 2017, 11:40 AM)
BENTONG.......haha,......
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confused.gif confused.gif hmm.gif

what up with Bentong?
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Mar 13 2017, 11:40 AM)
BENTONG.......haha,......
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KL <-> bentong traffic during peak season can be mad.gif
so its a very logical station tongue.gif

kampung Raja > interchange to perhentian i assume innocent.gif
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post Mar 13 2017, 07:42 PM

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population too low...people will still live in KL
but will be good during balik kampung time
no need drive and faster... also depend on the price.
currently KL-Ipoh got very good response.
also will be good for cargo.
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Mar 13 2017, 03:54 PM)
:confused:  :confused:  hmm.gif

what up with Bentong?
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Someone constituency ma......haha.....
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post Mar 13 2017, 09:35 PM

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property wont bloom , just have another choice balik kampung in new year
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Boss, do u know where will be the Bentong station? I'm bentongrian
QUOTE(propusers @ Mar 13 2017, 02:28 PM)
Based on the draft, the ITT Gombak (Integrated Transport Terminal) located just beside Putra LRT Gombak station.
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post Mar 13 2017, 10:21 PM

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Bentong area can uuu? Depends on the train effectiveness & price ticket? Malai sounds like tw now, with mrt erl.. but not much of place is "interesting" as KL.

Including malaka, pinang, JB.. especially JB... kinda boring zzz.

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QUOTE(llika @ Mar 13 2017, 09:35 PM)
property wont bloom , just have another choice balik kampung in new year
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Let's say the tic gonna cost RM60, how to dayx2 balik kampung? 60x22=1320...

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wish they had connected to the awana genting and then to Bentong. then can easy go there for holiday. why didnt they think of this since ghr is malaysia best holiday resort with fox theme park and premium outlet coming up soon. haiz...polotics not think of convenicne for rakyat.
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are they planning to overpopulate KL to overcome oversupply houses in Klang Valley?
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apart from just merely balik kampung..
this plan is actually build for utilizing the ports in east coast region, especially Kuantan port where Chinese company are still upgrading since few years back.
the purpose is to let the vessel unload @ kuantan port and than pakai train to reach KV, so they could by pass Singapore. this way the vessel could save 3 days time compare to now.
read frm somewhere but forgotten frm mana already. as a kuantanese who frequent travel to KL, i tracking this ECRM news for few years already.
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QUOTE(B-ZonE @ Mar 14 2017, 10:12 AM)
apart from just merely balik kampung..
this plan is actually build for utilizing the ports in east coast region, especially Kuantan port where Chinese company are still upgrading since few years back.
the purpose is to let the vessel unload @ kuantan port and than pakai train to reach KV, so they could by pass Singapore. this way the vessel could save 3 days time compare to now.
read frm somewhere but forgotten frm mana already. as a kuantanese who frequent travel to KL, i tracking this ECRM news for few years already.
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same as MCKIP?
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:17 AM)
same as MCKIP?
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MCKIP is part of the grand plan. it s not far from the port also.
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QUOTE(B-ZonE @ Mar 14 2017, 10:12 AM)
apart from just merely balik kampung..
this plan is actually build for utilizing the ports in east coast region, especially Kuantan port where Chinese company are still upgrading since few years back.
the purpose is to let the vessel unload @ kuantan port and than pakai train to reach KV, so they could by pass Singapore. this way the vessel could save 3 days time compare to now.
read frm somewhere but forgotten frm mana already. as a kuantanese who frequent travel to KL, i tracking this ECRM news for few years already.
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Ahh save 3 days journey already like few millions $$
Can save shipping cost rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Investor King @ Mar 13 2017, 09:53 PM)
Boss, do u know where will be the Bentong station? I'm bentongrian
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Near Karak highway Bentong exit and Kg. Tambai.

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QUOTE(B-ZonE @ Mar 14 2017, 10:21 AM)
MCKIP is part of the grand plan. it s not  far from the port also.
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Im quite shock, PEKAN was not under the grand plan.. blink.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:27 AM)
Ahh save 3 days journey already like few millions $$
Can save shipping cost rclxms.gif
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research suggest it's actually increase the shipping cost to compensate the time save if transfer cargo in at port kuantan and out at port klang.

so most likely it's only replacement of penisular malaysia domestic shipment from port klang to port kuantan.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:27 AM)
Ahh save 3 days journey already like few millions $$
Can save shipping cost rclxms.gif
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Logistics is their main business..
GOMBAK will prone to be like Gebeng..Bauxite..Orange everywhere blink.gif

Public transport is Lekat celah gigi business.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:50 AM)
Im quite shock, PEKAN was not under the grand plan.. blink.gif
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PM discuss with the attendants during the ECRL launch, they are propose a route from kuantan to pekan.
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:55 AM)
Logistics is their main business..
GOMBAK will prone to be like Gebeng..Bauxite..Orange everywhere  blink.gif

Public transport is Lekat celah gigi business.. biggrin.gif
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Bauxite are exported directly to China from Kuantan/Kemaman port. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(elmond @ Mar 14 2017, 10:52 AM)
research suggest it's actually increase the shipping cost to compensate the time save if transfer cargo in at port kuantan and out at port klang.

so most likely it's only replacement of penisular malaysia domestic shipment from port klang to port kuantan.
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i second that.
the increased cost were not too much based on the "research"
. but i forget the suggested amount. smile.gif
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QUOTE(B-ZonE @ Mar 14 2017, 11:01 AM)
Bauxite are exported directly to China from Kuantan/Kemaman port. tongue.gif
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Good.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:50 AM)
Im quite shock, PEKAN was not under the grand plan.. blink.gif
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train stations can always branch out. have to set up the main infrastructure first.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 14 2017, 11:18 AM)
train stations can always branch out. have to set up the main infrastructure first.
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i see..if he branch out..i think maybe he is also planning to develop tanjong agas?
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QUOTE(elmond @ Mar 14 2017, 10:52 AM)
research suggest it's actually increase the shipping cost to compensate the time save if transfer cargo in at port kuantan and out at port klang.

so most likely it's only replacement of penisular malaysia domestic shipment from port klang to port kuantan.
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Oh it's increase cost..
I thought save cost. Since gomen so eagerly promoting the ECRL project
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QUOTE(B-ZonE @ Mar 14 2017, 11:04 AM)
i second that.
the increased cost were not too much based on the "research"
. but i forget the suggested amount. smile.gif
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What if govt change hand, will this ECRL project continues like business as usual?? smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 14 2017, 11:54 AM)
Oh it's increase cost..
I thought save cost.  Since gomen so eagerly promoting the ECRL project
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to upvote??
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 02:14 PM)
What if govt change hand, will this ECRL project continues like business as usual??  smile.gif
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ECRL is a project benefit to rakyat in east coast..
if govt change hand, i bet the project still continue but more cost effective mayb?
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 02:14 PM)
What if govt change hand, will this ECRL project continues like business as usual??  smile.gif
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Objective and long run this project is great.

but the transparency of the project cost is a question.
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 02:16 PM)
to upvote??
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Well some really want back Kelantan state..
So they will do anything.. This project one of the goodies devil.gif
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Mar 13 2017, 11:22 PM)
Let's say the tic gonna cost RM60, how to dayx2 balik kampung? 60x22=1320...
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i mean HOLIDAY !!!! dry.gif dry.gif
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Wednesday, 29 March 2017
East coast rail kicks off

PETALING JAYA: The East Coast Rail Line (ECRL), estimated at RM55bil and the largest ever railway project to be undertaken by the private sector, is poised to kick off.
Sources said some early specifications and breakdown of the tenders could be announced as early as next month. While construction companies have lined up to bid for the multi-billion-ringgit project, Malaysia Rail Link Sdn Bhd (MRL) – the body under the Finance Ministry tasked to undertake the implementation of the ECRL – is said to have assembled a team and roped in personnel with rail expertise from the private sector.
According to sources, Yew Yow Boo, formerly from construction firm Gamuda Bhd, has been picked as one of the senior personnel tasked with overseeing the ECRL.
During his tenure with Gamuda, Yew was said to have been involved in the construction giant’s double-tracking projects.
“The feasibility study is completed and awaiting approval from the Land Public Transport Commission or SPAD,” said a source.
More significantly, this will also be the first project outside the ambit of Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd (KTMB), he added.
“The ECRL is expected to operate independently by another operator.
“It is also understood that its track lines will be that of standard gauge as compared to KTMB lines which are operated on meter gauge. With the standard gauge, the trains are able to run at a faster speed,” said the source familiar with the rail industry.
KTMB, the main railway operator in Peninsular Malaysia, has services that include intercity passenger services, the cargo segment, electric train services and the KTM Komuter,
Prasarana Malaysia Bhd, a Finance Ministry-incorporated company, operates and owns the urban rail system.
The newly-established MRL is the operator and owner of the 600km ECRL, a key catalytic infrastructure project for the East Coast Economic Region, providing the much-needed rail connection to Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang.
China’s state-owned enterprise China Communications Construction Co Ltd (CCCC) will fund the project. Last November, the company said that it had secured the engineering, procurement and construction management contract to build the ECRL from MRL.
Besides this, it was reported that the project will also be financed via a soft loan from the Export-Import Bank of China.
At the reported RM55bil cost, it will be the largest double-tracking rail project.
This cost includes the cost of several tunneling and underground scopes.
CIMB Research, in a recent report, said that 10% to 30% of the total contract value could be apportioned to local contractors. This could mean a range of RM5.5bil to up to RM16.5bil worth of tenders to be rolled out in stages beginning from the middle of this year.
Among local contractors that could benefit from this project are companies such as Gamuda and IJM Corp Bhd, which have strong rail expertise.
The MRL recently launched a three-month public display of the ECRL and construction is targeted to start in July, barring major objections after the display period.
The rail alignment will connect Wakaf Baru in Kelantan to the Integrated Transport Terminal in Gombak and will eventually be extended to Port Klang.
The train will carry both passengers and freight, travelling up to 160km per hour.

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...0CR2s8zlAFo7.99
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saw nearby LRT gombak (shell beside MRR2) and opposite it (restoran golek-golek) doing land clearing..is it related?

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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Apr 26 2017, 03:54 PM)
saw nearby LRT gombak (shell beside MRR2) and opposite it (restoran golek-golek) doing land clearing..is it related?
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that is itt gombak, similar likes TBS for east coast
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wow so much development..sure pack like TBS after this..
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Apr 26 2017, 04:12 PM)
wow so much development..sure pack like TBS after this..
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that's the plan biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Apr 26 2017, 08:20 PM)
that's the plan  biggrin.gif
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so the plan will bring benefits in terms of appreciation or vice versa? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Apr 27 2017, 03:14 PM)
so the plan will bring benefits in terms of appreciation or vice versa?  hmm.gif
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it's like for connection purpose..

1 place for the rail services..
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Apr 27 2017, 03:41 PM)
it's like for connection purpose..

1 place for the rail services..
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in terms of property investment? smile.gif
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i tot will link to klang?
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in terms of property investment? smile.gif
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well that one I not really sure..

but I guess should be positive as even the previous MRT project give good positive valuation on properties..
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More kampung ppl gonna spending in KL and business in small state of east coast = wait die?
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ECRL is an absolute waste of money - dubbed the most expansive rail track per km in the world.

Original study was that the 545km route would cost RM29 billion, or RM53.2 million per km.

Now it suddenly increase to RM55 billion for an additional 10% of the rail length.

Why would we not expect ECRL to lose money like KTM year after year.

The money could be better used elsewhere.
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QUOTE(mafa2801 @ Mar 14 2017, 10:50 AM)
Im quite shock, PEKAN was not under the grand plan.. blink.gif
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Any potential property that we can study ?
Near Kuantan Port maybe? ☺️
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Presentation slides on ECRL (southern alignment) - make sense, I hope govt change the current route to this one

https://www.scribd.com/document/351235293/E...Southern-Option

Gists:
-Cheaper by est. 8b
-Integrate with ERL
-Integrate with KTM (plus cargo relief?)

taken from Skyscrapercity
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QUOTE(MO1 @ Jun 14 2017, 01:54 PM)
Presentation slides on ECRL (southern alignment) - make sense, I hope govt change the current route to this one

https://www.scribd.com/document/351235293/E...Southern-Option

Gists:
-Cheaper by est. 8b
-Integrate with ERL
-Integrate with KTM (plus cargo relief?)

taken from Skyscrapercity
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wouldn't the route was confirmed, so just keep dream on the southern option. smile.gif

the main losing point of southern options are extra time on rail integration.

gombak still on middle ring road. putrajaya not even on outer ring road (SKVE), so the distance and time to consume will very hard to convince east coast residents using train instead of car. if taking southern option, then it's better take flight.

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Malaysia has hailed an upcoming railway linking its east coast to Port Klang on the west coast as an "alternative trade route", claiming that a projected 53 million tonnes of cargo will bypass Singapore annually by 2030.

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At a ground-breaking ceremony for the East Coast Rail Link (ECRL) attended by a high-level Chinese delegation yesterday, Prime Minister Najib Razak said the rail link "is a high-impact project that will seamlessly link the Klang Valley with the states of Pahang, Terengganu and Kelantan".

The RM55 billion (S$17.5 billion) rail link, which will be built and funded by Chinese state firms, is slated for completion in 2024.

"The viability of the ECRL is undisputed as it is estimated that 5.4 million passengers and 53 million tonnes of cargo will use the ECRL service annually by 2030 as the primary transport between the east and west coast," Datuk Seri Najib said at the event in Kuantan, capital of his home state Pahang.

It is in Kuantan that a new deepwater port, also jointly developed with China, will be joined to the west coast via the ECRL to Malaysia's main port in Klang. "Hence, regional trade routes mainly centred on the busy Strait of Malacca and the South China Sea via Singapore, may leverage on the ECRL transportation, which can cater for the movement of bulky items in large volumes at lower cost," he added.

Mr Najib said the 668km line would boost the eastern region - which lags behind the rest of the country - raising economic growth by 1.5 per cent a year.

China's State Councillor Wang Yong, head of the Chinese delegation, said the electrified rail project would promote regional connectivity and was a display of bilateral economic cooperation.

Analysts said China is "keeping all options open" in securing trade routes across the Indian Ocean to its shores.

Mr Jaafar Ismail of Fergana Ventures, a Malaysian advisory firm that specialises in infrastructure and resource-based projects, previously told The Straits Times that the Port Klang to Kuantan Port "land bridge" could provide a "significant resolution" to China's over-reliance on the Malacca Strait.

Still, analysts note that the 53 million tonnes Kuala Lumpur hopes will be carried via the ECRL each year is less than 10 per cent of what the Port of Singapore handles now.

"Singapore will still be very important for the short to medium term. It is arguably still one of the most efficient ports with massive carrying capacity," senior fellow Johan Saravanamuttu of the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies told The Straits Times.

The ECRL, which will have 12 passenger, three freight and seven combined stations, will go north from Kuantan, Pahang, to the state of Kelantan near the Thai border.

The state-owned China Communications Construction Company will build the line, with China Exim Bank providing 85 per cent of the capital at an interest rate of 3.5 per cent.

The opposition in Malaysia has argued that the rail link is unlikely to generate sufficient revenue to repay the loan from China, while critics say Malaysian firms will not reap the benefits of the project.

However, Mr Najib said China had agreed to set aside 30 per cent of the project for local contractors.

The opposition Pakatan Harapan coalition said yesterday that the resources poured into the new rail link are at the expense of the 6,000 rail workers working for the national rail company, which will not be operating the new project.

A statement signed by coalition members noted the rail link will not be owned by the national rail company but by a new firm wholly owned by the Ministry of Finance.



http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/e...al-to-singapore

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Complete 2 yrs earlier than hsr even tho d length is double of hsr's length.

Hsr shud award 2 china co mayb can complete within 3 yrs
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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak urged China to complete the East Coast Rail Link (ECRL) before 2024, calling the project a game and mindset changer.

Mr Najib made the comments at the groundbreaking ceremony of the ECRL in Kuantan on Wednesday (Aug 9).

Last year, China extended funding to Malaysia to build the rail link connecting the east coast of peninsular Malaysia to its west coast, from Pengkalan Kubur in Kelantan to Port Klang in Selangor.

The China Communications Construction Company was also awarded the contract for the procurement, engineering, and construction of the project.

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Speaking at the ceremony on Wednesday, Mr Najib said 85 per cent of the RM55 billion (US$13 billion) project will be financed with a soft loan with 3.25 per cent interest from the state-owned Exim Bank of China. The loan will have a seven year moratorium, he added.

The remaining 15 per cent to be funded through Malaysia’s sukuk programme, which is managed by local banks.


The project, Mr Najib said, will cut travel time between Kota Bharu and Port Klang significantly from the current seven hours to four hours.

It will also stimulate growth in coastal states of Pahang Terengganu and Kelantan by 1.5 per cent and bring benefits to the combined population of 4.4 million in these states, he added.

The prime minister noted that the successful completion of the ECRL will provide an alternative trade route connecting the east and west coasts of peninsular Malaysia. The regional trade route centered on the Strait of Malacca may also leverage the ERCL to move a large volume of goods at a lower cost, he said.

The ECRL is expected to create 80,000 jobs, and about 5.4 million passengers and 54 million tonnes of cargo are expected to use the service annually by 2030.

Addressing concerns that the construction of ECRL will only benefit Chinese companies, Mr Najib said Malaysian contractors will be given at least 30 per cent of high impact projects.

The ground-breaking ceremony was witnessed by a large delegation of Chinese officials led by China state councillor Wang Yong, who was acting as special envoy of President Xijingping.

Mr Wang hailed the project as a flagship of China belt-and-road initiatives and a strong pillar of ASEAN connectivity.


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What is the railway gauge ECRL use?

Wide or meter gauge?
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Really fainted to see phase 2 ITC Gombak to Port Klang route...

Let's comment:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mi...6337897944&z=12
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Really fainted to see phase 2 ITC Gombak to Port Klang route...

Let's comment:
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my guess, batu caves - sg buloh - kapar - port klang,

- still similar likes old guess in the map but the last portion will be nearer to kapar

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Really fainted to see phase 2 ITC Gombak to Port Klang route...

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Kenya's new railway at a glance:
Cost $3.2bn (£2.5bn)
Funding for the 470km (290 miles) project was provided by China
It took three-and-a-half years to build, using Chinese track-laying technology
The line is supposed to eventually connect land-locked South Sudan, eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, Rwanda, Burundi and Ethiopia to the Indian Ocean
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-40092600



malaysia VS kenya
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600.3km VS 470KM

12.8Bil(USD) VS 3.2Bil(USD)

China fund and built VS China fund and built

21.3Million USD per KM VS 6.8Million USD per KM

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MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!!
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Why the needs to built the expensive tunnel??
Can just change the routes, so it would be cheaper..
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Kenya's new railway at a glance:
Cost $3.2bn (£2.5bn)
Funding for the 470km (290 miles) project was provided by China
It took three-and-a-half years to build, using Chinese track-laying technology
The line is supposed to eventually connect land-locked South Sudan, eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, Rwanda, Burundi and Ethiopia to the Indian Ocean
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-40092600
malaysia            VS            kenya
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600.3km            VS                470KM

12.8Bil(USD)        VS              3.2Bil(USD)

China fund and built    VS        China fund and built

21.3Million USD per KM  VS    6.8Million USD per KM         

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they are the one that will fund the lifestyle of our rulling politicians today.
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Why the needs to built the expensive tunnel??
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Because HIGH COST , HIGH REBATE biggrin.gif biggrin.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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macam Putrajaya loh....

they dig a hole to make a lake, and build an iconic bridge over it........
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I'm sure, the ROI will be low...
Meaning incoming 50years concessions agreement cry.gif
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Video presentation for the ECRL Ground Breaking Ceremony in Kota SAS Sentral Station Site, Kuantan, Pahang on 09th August 2017


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Economist Jomo Kwame Sundaram says there is urgent need for greater transparency and accountability in 'off-budget' infrastructure spending, which is not part of the federal government budget and is thereby unaccountable to Parliament. – The Malaysian Insight file pic, February 4, 2018.

UNCHECKED overspending by the Prime Minister’s Office and disproportionate allocation of development funds have led to the official government debt fast approaching RM700 billion, said a prominent economist.

Former United Nations assistant secretary-general Jomo Kwame Sundaram said there was an urgent need for greater transparency and accountability in “off-budget” infrastructure spending, which is not part of the federal government budget and is thereby unaccountable to Parliament.

“What Malaysia needs now is more appropriate development expenditure, not yet more operating expenditure, especially for the PMO, which has grown more than tenfold and has centralised power like never before," Jomo told The Malaysian Insight in a telephone interview recently.

"Meanwhile, most infrastructure spending is not on the federal budget, and often involves dubious public-private partnerships, further reducing transparency and accountability, as (witnessed in) the recent rush to start the ECRL (East Coast Rail Line)."

Jomo recommended that allocations to the PMO be slashed to lower rising debt.

The PMO was allocated RM17.43 billion in Budget 2018, almost double the RM8.938 billion it received in 2008.

Mega-projects such as the ECRL, Tun Razak Exchange, and Bandar Malaysia should also be scrutinised by an independent bipartisan parliamentary committee chaired by a member of the opposition party, said Jomo.

In the case of the 688km ECRL, should the rail system, which costs RM55 billion, nearly 8% of Malaysia’s public debt, fail to generate the expected level of demand and return on investment, it can put the government highly in debt to China.

"ECRL would never pay for itself. Right now, the estimated government debt is large and it is growing very fast. When you talk about debt, you have to consider both the official debt as well as the government guaranteed debt.

“And because there's no accountability for the government guaranteed debt, there's a lot of room for hanky-panky. There's hardly any reporting and so on."

Jomo said there was also a need to prevent abuse of public-private partnerships, as “ultimately it is the public that bears the costs or the bulk of the risks, while the profits mainly accrue to the private partner".

Jomo, a visiting fellow at the Khazanah Research Institute, has been a vocal critic of the government’s rising operation expenditure, which has grown an average 6% yearly for the last 10 years.

Operations spending grew from RM123.10 billion in 2007 to RM219.91 billion in 2017, exceeding Malaysia’s revenue which grew at an average of 4.9% yearly since 2007, when revenue stood at RM139.9 billion to RM225.34 billion in 2017.

Federal debt during the same period rose 10% annually from RM123 billion in 2007 to RM687.43 billion as at September 2017.

A recent report by The Edge Markets revealed that going by an annual growth rate of 10.7%, Malaysia's debt could reach RM1 trillion by 2021 on excessive spending.

By the same projection, Malaysia's debt could reach RM2 trillion in 2028 and RM3 trillion in 2032.

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Jomo said high public debt, if left unaddressed long-term, would put the country at risk of default.

"Taking on debt for productive uses is generally desirable. However, much of the recent debt is not being used productively.

“Also, the government should be paying down debt or reducing debt when the economy is growing and incurring debt when there is a slowdown.

"However, for the last 10 years or more, we have just been taking on more and more debt, even when we claim the economy is growing well, which is usually seen as fiscally irresponsible,” he said.

Jomo said servicing the interest for high public debt diverted funds from other sectors, which would benefit the people, such as healthcare or education.

"Apparently that is the case in Malaysia where, allocations to public universities have been cut by more than half in the last two years," he said.

While he acknowledged the need for development expenditure for the economy to progress, Jomo said the funding should be more targeted and “appropriate”.

"They should fund research, for example, to increase the productivity of oil palm by increasing its productive life span to 90 years from the current 25 years."

"Malaysia's most successful industrialisation story is not electronics, which is controlled by foreign companies but palm oil, which is controlled by Malaysia," he said. – February 4, 2018.
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doubt on ECRL future..
more cost cutting measures expected...
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Maybe China will propose another financial parkage for this project
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Can propose new line where more feasible:

Extend from Kuala Lipis exisitng railway track to raub, bentong , karak , titi , Semenyih (tunnel) , Putrajaya HSR , back to Bangi existing track and extend to cyberjaya and port klang to skip KV track
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Can propose new line where more feasible:

Extend from Kuala Lipis exisitng railway track to raub, bentong , karak , titi , Semenyih (tunnel) , Putrajaya HSR , back to Bangi existing track and extend to cyberjaya and port klang to skip KV track
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Kinda confusing...
But looks good on paper...
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Can propose new line where more feasible:

Extend from Kuala Lipis exisitng railway track to raub, bentong , karak , titi , Semenyih (tunnel) , Putrajaya HSR , back to Bangi existing track and extend to cyberjaya and port klang to skip KV track
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Existing ktm tracks is narrow guage, incompatible with modern standard guage.
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Ecrl is here gauge ?


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China as main contractor confirm will not have any trickle down effect. it will not spur our economy..this is all a ploy to boost china's own economy. later EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING will bring from china. we will not enjoy a cent out of the 55 billion..lol

bijan really sohai in making the deals. no job creation no transfer of technology whatsoever..lel
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China as main contractor confirm will not have any trickle down effect. it will not spur our economy..this is all a ploy to boost china's own economy. later EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING will bring from china. we will not enjoy a cent out of the 55 billion..lol

bijan really sohai in making the deals. no job creation no transfer of technology whatsoever..lel
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Ecrl is here gauge ?
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If ktm is not involved is standard gauge.

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Then ECRL is meter gauge already...

Anyway, we use utilize gemas-kelantan track if really want to connect back to port klang, their purpose is mainly for cargo, if for passenger doesnt make sense at all as why east coast people want to come KL frequently.

add-on: better use the money for Pangerang to Kelantan line and seremban to serendah KV bypass line

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The Malaysian government could claim back the RM10.02 billion paid to East Coast Rail Link (ECRL) contractors if the project is terminated, said Finance Minister Lim Guan Eng today.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/govt...g-says-guan-eng

interesting...
every ringgit counted... 1 Trillion debts yo.. $$$$
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http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/epcc...E2%80%94-source

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/content/even...rl-contractor-0


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KUALA LUMPUR (Jan 18): The government has terminated the engineering, procurement, construction and commissioning (EPCC) contract awarded to China contractor China Communications Construction Co Ltd (CCCC) for the RM81 billion East Coast Rail Link (ECRL) project, a source told theedgemarkets.com today.

CCCC was instructed to stop all construction works and services regarding the ECRL project by Finance Minister Lim Guan Eng on July 3 last year until further notice, pending a review.

The ECRL is among several mega projects being reviewed by the current Pakatan Harapan government, in this case due to the cost of undertaking the ambitious railway link that forms part of China's "One Belt, One Road" initiative.

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either open tender & Another Chinese company win or local JV wins tongue.gif
any way. it's sure would be cheaper than the original cost
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Dr Mahathir Mohamad today confirmed reports that Malaysia is cancelling the RM81 billion East Coast Rail Link (ECRL), following conflicting statements from two of his Cabinet members on the China-led project.

“Sometimes, ministers make an announcement before it is due,” he told reporters today.

“The finance minister will give a clear explanation soon as to what happened.”


Finance Minister Lim Guan Eng and Economic Affairs Minister Mohamed Azmin Ali had both issued conflicting statements on the project.

Azmin said the government had terminated China Communications Construction Group Ltd as the project’s contractor, while Lim said an official decision had yet to be made.

Mahathir today said the project was a burden to the government, and cancelling it was a better alternative despite the huge compensation it would have to pay.

“It is not that we do not want to honour our contracts. We just cannot pay.

“These contracts will cost us more than RM100 billion. It will impoverish us, so we seek the understanding of the parties concerned. We are really tied in terms of finances,” he said.


https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...o-big-a-burden/
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There's some rumors saying the delay in official announcement is to wait counter offer by China... Lower price or smaller scale project compared with the original one...

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Guan Eng: Putrajaya now in talks with Beijing over ECRL
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...er-ecrl/1718047

keep on spinning over the issues..
first say No Go. later says still under nego with CCCC. Then No Go.. Now says direct Nego with Chinese goverment confused.gif
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ECRL is a bad project. It should have been cancelled. Unlike the HSR, this project will not bring much good. Especially for the exorbitant price tag
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ECRL is a bad project. It should have been cancelled. Unlike the HSR, this project will not bring much good. Especially for the exorbitant price tag
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yea HSR make more sense.... ERCL doesnt really bring much economic value other than created short term job opportunities for the east coaster... and they wont know how to utilize the ERCL also....
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yea HSR make more sense.... ERCL doesnt really bring much economic value other than created short term job opportunities for the east coaster... and they wont know how to utilize the ERCL also....
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what u mean by that?
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how often the east coaster will utilize the ERCL? for port transportation or just personal travelling? the problem is alot of them not even know whats the benefit of ERCL and utilize it... and for us the west coaster... what benefit do we have also? just for the sake of balik kampung? haha
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how often the east coaster will utilize the ERCL? for port transportation or just personal travelling? the problem is alot of them not even know whats the benefit of ERCL and utilize it... and for us the west coaster... what benefit do we have also? just for the sake of balik kampung? haha
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Good point..
How often? Well.. Raya haji & aidilfiti, CNY & School holiday.. And maybe GE time too (even if weekday voting)..

So the $$ better to use for building new highway 😬
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Good point..
How often? Well.. Raya haji & aidilfiti, CNY & School holiday.. And maybe GE time too (even if weekday voting)..

So the $$ better to use for building new highway 😬
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haha... it doesnt matter got new highway or not... what they need is build up their states first to be competitive and full of money making opportunities only we talk about ERCL and better highway... otherwise when u ask what ppl think about east coast...heavy religious states berlambak laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 31 2019, 08:14 AM

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Well for one...
Needed more jobs creations there...
So many are coming to KL to get jobs...

When u have good economy.. ECRL become more relevant 👍
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post Jan 31 2019, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 30 2019, 08:49 PM)
haha... it doesnt matter got new highway or not... what they need is build up their states first to be competitive and full of money making opportunities only we talk about ERCL and better highway... otherwise when u ask what ppl think about east coast...heavy religious states berlambak  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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No first n foremost most mentality of ppl there need to change dulu

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